So You Want to Be a Draft Guru?

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Review the selections of a hundred draft “experts” on this year’s draft and I guarantee you will see 100 different drafts. So how do you make your own grid work?

Well, if you’ve got the time, which I don’t this season, here’s some tips from a guy who’s done it since well before it became fashionable. Begin by playing the club not the prospect. What I mean is simple. Study the club’s recent draft history, especially if the personnel making the decisions remain unchanged. The recent Detroit history provides a good example. If you knew Matt Millen (and even if you didn’t) you could easily see that if he were a coach facing first and goal he’d run the ball. Even after that strategy failed 3 times in a row, he’d run on fourth and goal. He simply believes you do it until you get it right. So when he chose wide receivers 3 years in a row, it should have surprised no one. It also should have surprised no one that he’s not choosing anymore.

Another closely related tip is to see what positions the club has drafted in recent years, particularly in rounds one and two. Most clubs work under a few predictable philosophies. Many teams have positions they attack and ones they avoid. Denver hasn’t taken a running back in round 1 in more than 20 years. The last time they did (1985) they selected the forgettable Steve Sewell. On the other hand, when they have picks in the first two rounds (and sometimes when they don’t) they are almost certain to take a linebacker before round 3 begins. Several teams like to stack up linemen often on both sides of the ball. That’s the old “games are won in the trenches” philosophy.

Another old saw is the best player available theory. Bill Belichick is known for drafting the BPA way. It’s mostly true; though I would argue in recent years he’s moved to a more need-related strategy. Most teams operate under a similar compromise philosophy; they take the BPA but focus on a few positions to determine their BPA. There are still quite a few need-based teams and the Cards are high up on that list. Recent selections like Levi Brown and Alan Branch illustrate the dangers. These athletes often lack sufficient athleticism to play another position, so they are typically all-in propositions. Most teams in the latter group will switch to more of a BPA philosophy during rounds 4-7. During the last 2 rounds, many teams also focus almost exclusively of players who can immediately contribute on special teams.

A number of teams like to trade down; adding additional draft picks and thus not put all their eggs in a few baskets. This is especially true in round one. Others seem to move up and down in an opportunist mode, so their initial draft position means little.

Some selectors believe they are far better judges of talent than others. They make astonishing reaches that often result in disaster. They seek to impress everyone with their “superior” knowledge of quality players. Both Jimmy Johnson and Al Davis have fallen victim to this philosophy. On the other hand, Bill Belichick has proven year after year that he is a better judge of talent than his counterparts; usually bringing home a winner with these choices (like Logan Mankins).

If you want to really dig, see what combine stats teams value. Some teams like strength on their lines, others like agility. So look at previous draftee’s reps and cone drills. For other teams, it’s all about speed. Indy for example, loves speed. I know; Manning can’t run.

The last group to consider is the GM’s with history. Better yet, look for the ones not impressed by hype. The best GM out of a job is Charley Casserly. You may recall I was one of the few who championed his selection of Mario Williams over Reggie Bush. BTW in that draft he also selected future Pro Bowl players DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. You tell me why this guy can’t find a job. He’s not popular with the fans, but he can judge talent. Most of these guys, like Casserly, look down the road, so play them to pass on the flashy talent and look for players who will endure, especially in the early rounds.

Finally, spend time doing an in-depth analysis of each team’s immediate and soon-to-be needs. If a big contract expires the following season and they can’t afford to tag the player, a need may well be address immediately to “season” the draftee and determine if they have a viable replacement. Sometimes an unhappy, under-contract player can spur such a selection, like the Cards’ choice of Doucet.

So if you want to be a draftniks, you don’t have to spend hours of time looking at film. You don’t have to assess how good a player’s feet are or how good their mirror technique is. Mostly you have to study history and a team’s roster. Look at what statistics they value and what statistics they lack.

You’ll likely end up with a better bracket, but still be wrong most of the time. On the other hand, you do get to say, “I told you so,” more often. When I used to do my post-draft, mock draft analysis I gave the bracket builders points for getting the position right or choosing a player who could move to the needed position (like a college DE to a 3-4 OLB). BTW, the winners were usually Dave Te and Brian DeLucia, now with Fox Sports. Neither one does a bracket any longer and that should tell you how frustrating this process can be. If you’re still determined to seek glory, go with my best wishes, but remember Dante’s line, “Abandon hope all ye who enter here.”
 

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You’ll likely end up with a better bracket, but still be wrong most of the time. On the other hand, you do get to say, “I told you so,” more often. When I used to do my post-draft, mock draft analysis I gave the bracket builders points for getting the position right or choosing a player who could move to the needed position (like a college DE to a 3-4 OLB). BTW, the winners were usually Dave Te and Brian DeLucia, now with Fox Sports. Neither one does a bracket any longer and that should tell you how frustrating this process can be. If you’re still determined to seek glory, go with my best wishes, but remember Dante’s line, “Abandon hope all ye who enter here.”


With that in mind, do you like any later round projected CB's that can make the transition to FS?
 

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So that's how you do it. Fascinating article. Convinced me again it's too much work. Far more fun to let others do it and take cheap shots at their bad misses.
 

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The problem with a club's past MO is if they've changed front office people or head coaches. (Remember when the Cards would reach to fill a position-need? Then one bright day, Dennis Green convinced them to convert to a BPA approach, and now Rod and Wiz are going with a refined BPA approach that builds team need and fit within the system into their player ratings).

A few things I've been zeroing in on lately are:

Change in a player's height, weight and forty time comparing Combine and Pro Day scores to original estimates. (Schools tend to hype sizes and speeds. And sometimes players actually get bigger, faster, heavier or leaner). Sometimes a dramatic move up the boards by a big RB or a WR can be due to the scouts being surprised by revised workout scores. In short - Sometimes the changes in these numbers are more important than the numbers themselves.

Fit within a system - Different teams (whose systems remain stable) look for different players - for example: Big Al (Davis) has a penchant for dumb, athletically dominant players. New England will pick a "football player" first and then figure out how they'll use him. (The Pats' selections a few years back of Vrabel, Bruschi and Klecko's kid should have come as no surprise). The Cards, of late, have been pretty predictable and straight-forward about the prospects they're most likely to select. Since the trade-down for Pace/BJ, there have been few if any surprises out of AZ.

Rumors - As we get closer to Draft Day, I maintain a running chart on the BRS showing all the teams in the order of their first round selections, along with any rumor, scuttlebutt, innuendo etc. I pick up about them. (I'm not sure how useful this turns out to be, but it does make the time go faster).
 
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Rick Gosselin is in my opinion the best in the business at picking where a player will be picked. Year in and year out he's pretty much right on the money,
 

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Rick Gosselin is in my opinion the best in the business at picking where a player will be picked. Year in and year out he's pretty much right on the money,


Great piece..isn't Gosselin the writer for the Dallas Morning News?
 

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Another closely related tip is to see what positions the club has drafted in recent years, particularly in rounds one and two. Most clubs work under a few predictable philosophies. Many teams have positions they attack and ones they avoid. Denver hasn’t taken a running back in round 1 in more than 20 years. The last time they did (1985) they selected the forgettable Steve Sewell. On the other hand, when they have picks in the first two rounds (and sometimes when they don’t) they are almost certain to take a linebacker before round 3 begins. Several teams like to stack up linemen often on both sides of the ball. That’s the old “games are won in the trenches” philosophy.

The last group to consider is the GM’s with history. Better yet, look for the ones not impressed by hype. The best GM out of a job is Charley Casserly. You may recall I was one of the few who championed his selection of Mario Williams over Reggie Bush. BTW in that draft he also selected future Pro Bowl players DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. You tell me why this guy can’t find a job. He’s not popular with the fans, but he can judge talent. Most of these guys, like Casserly, look down the road, so play them to pass on the flashy talent and look for players who will endure, especially in the early rounds.

Several teams and/or GMs avoid running backs in the first round. I know Bill Parcells trys to avoid the running back position.

It comes down to long term value. Look at Levi Brown vs. Adrian Peterson. Most would say that the Cards screwed up but not all. Tackles have a history of taking a few years to reach their peak but can play at a high level for much longer on average.

I've heard some experts say they see Levi Brown being a pro bowl player ina year or two. AP has already suffered some injuries and if one just looks at averages may be on the down hill side just as LB is reaching his peak as a player.

I think that is one of the things a guy like Casserly thinks about especially when drafting high. If you draft high you want a player that in theory will be able to contribute to your team for a decade or more. You want to get long term value for that pick. You can't afford to select a player who is out of the league in 5-6 years.

In these GMs opinions a team has a better chance of getting value from a pick if you use it on offensive tackles, quarterbacks, cornerbacks and pass rushers. Guys who strike at full speed, collision players, like running backs and linebackers sometimes hold less value because they have a shorter life.

It's all about averages and what can help the most for longest, and several successful personnel people in the NFL subscribe to it. It's why the story of AP vs. LB still has a lot of chapters before the book is written.
 

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One of the things that makes NFL Network's draft coverage so entertaining and informative is Charlie Casserly. The guy still has fantastic contacts around the league and speaks with an authority and honesty that is truly refreshing.

I'm not sure how NFLN landed him, but I loved his comments during the combine. He turned out to be dead on on Michael Crabtree's decision. 'tree reversed course and got the surgery, which is what Charley had recommended all along.
 

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Several teams and/or GMs avoid running backs in the first round. I know Bill Parcells trys to avoid the running back position.

It comes down to long term value. Look at Levi Brown vs. Adrian Peterson. Most would say that the Cards screwed up but not all. Tackles have a history of taking a few years to reach their peak but can play at a high level for much longer on average.

I've heard some experts say they see Levi Brown being a pro bowl player ina year or two. AP has already suffered some injuries and if one just looks at averages may be on the down hill side just as LB is reaching his peak as a player.

I think that is one of the things a guy like Casserly thinks about especially when drafting high. If you draft high you want a player that in theory will be able to contribute to your team for a decade or more. You want to get long term value for that pick. You can't afford to select a player who is out of the league in 5-6 years.

In these GMs opinions a team has a better chance of getting value from a pick if you use it on offensive tackles, quarterbacks, cornerbacks and pass rushers. Guys who strike at full speed, collision players, like running backs and linebackers sometimes hold less value because they have a shorter life.

It's all about averages and what can help the most for longest, and several successful personnel people in the NFL subscribe to it. It's why the story of AP vs. LB still has a lot of chapters before the book is written.

Good post. You can think of our pick this year as the top of the 2nd round, so a RB should be fine. :)
 

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The only thing in the draft you can bet on is

1st round picks = the team takes NEED first - always have always will.

so look at team needs first

Cards fans know...

picked Levi Brown the 2nd best tackle early early in the draft...many other BPA available, but the need was T.

Last year: DRC - needed CB - no matter what


Every team will draft player of need first.

Last thing you can count on is EVERY MOCK DRAFT WILL BE 99% WRONG.

Last year: both espn 'experts' got 2 players right matched with the team
NFL draft sites I followed got ONE RIGHT...and everyone else got NONE.

I don't get these fools that do 6 round mocks....it's such a waste of time. Go plant some flowers or clean your house....6 round mock - your life is a waste...stop sucking in oxygen that others can use.
 

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1st round picks = the team takes NEED first - always have always will.

We didn't NEED Matt Leinart or Larry Fitzgerald. The Raiders didn't need Darren McFadden last year. In 2007 the Lions didn't need Calvin Johnson and the Vikings didn't need Adrian Peterson.
 

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We didn't NEED Matt Leinart or Larry Fitzgerald. The Raiders didn't need Darren McFadden last year. In 2007 the Lions didn't need Calvin Johnson and the Vikings didn't need Adrian Peterson.

Dennis Green was an advocate of BPA - at the time the Cards had more holes than swiss cheese...any position was considered 'need'

Leinart was under the Green draft so again he was BPA - and he was a 'need' position

Vikings - they had RB listed as their number 1 NEED - so yep on that

Detroit - swiss cheese again - didn't matter - they took BPA - because they had need at every position.


I said every mock is wrong ....that would include MY MOCK as well...:)
 

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Dennis Green was an advocate of BPA - at the time the Cards had more holes than swiss cheese...any position was considered 'need'
We had just drafted Bryant Johnson and Anquan Boldin the year before. Receiver wasn't a need.
Leinart was under the Green draft so again he was BPA - and he was a 'need' position
We had just signed Warner the year before. Again, not a need. Drafting for need is when you take a player and expect him to play immediately because that position sucks on your team.
Vikings - they had RB listed as their number 1 NEED - so yep on that
Running back not even mentioned as a minor need. They had Chester Taylor.
Detroit - swiss cheese again - didn't matter - they took BPA - because they had need at every position.
When Detroit drafted Calvin Williams they had Roy Williams, Mike Furrey and Az-Hakim. Not a need.

The only reason that I'm picking nits is that you made a blanket statement about how teams always draft in round 1.
 
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