Some BIG Board rankings4-20-19

[JeffGollin]

Just showing the ones i had on hand.No special agenda.Just info only.Yes I noticed Huddle kind of goes their own way don`t they.

Survey the various 1st round mocks and tell us who's ranked #1 the most often.

(Clue - it rhymes with Furry).

 

[Krangodnzr]

If Gil has him that low PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE NOTICE that man has lived breathed and ate football ever since I have alive

Gil loves Kyler. Hes known him since he was a freshman or sophomore in high school. He says Kyler is an amazing kid.

 

[Jetstream Green]

If Gil has him that low PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE NOTICE that man has lived breathed and ate football ever since I have alive

I like Rosen but then again he had him ranked second in last year's draft ahead of Mayfield. So much goes into a player being in the right situation but I also think Brandt to an extent judges players according to a bygone era. My observation is that the players are too close to move on from Rosen so soon but maybe the offensive scheme Kingsbury presents makes the potential far greater for Murray's success... he does not see Rosen or Murray as a bust, which is key and should make us really consider the defensive talent

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...randts-topranked-prospects-for-2018-nfl-draft

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

Gil loves Kyler. Hes known him since he was a freshman or sophomore in high school. He says Kyler is an amazing kid.

He may love him but still ranks him below 6 other players did you read what he said bout Q Williams for what its worth he states that he has many pro bowls in his future

 

[PJ1]

I think one of the more interesting things to look at is the ranking of players as they were ranked in January. To me that takes all the media hype out of play.

Agreed. Was considered a weak QB draft and no QB close to being #1 overall. Until the media created what we have now.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I like Rosen but then again he had him ranked second in last years draft ahead of Mayfield. So much goes into a player being in the right situation but I also think Brandt to an extent judges players according to a bygone era. My observation is that the players are too close to move on from Rosen so soon but maybe the offensive scheme Kingsbury presents makes the potential far greater for success

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...randts-topranked-prospects-for-2018-nfl-draft

Good point Jetstream problem is what happens if and when KK flames out and Murray cant adjust to the new Coaches scheme then it's right back to where we are now

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I have said in many comments and post that Murray has just one system he can actually function in and it's a system that KK runs Now when and if he is fired which after last season could happen next year the New Coach/Gm will want their guy and 9 chances out of 10 IT WONT BE MURRAY

 

[Jetstream Green]

I have said in many comments and post that Murray has just one system he can actually function in and it's a system that KK runs Now when and if he is fired which after last season could happen next year the New Coach/Gm will want their guy and 9 chances out of 10 IT WONT BE MURRAY

I think they will give Kingsburry at least two years after just going through a one an done, but that does not protect Keim and he better watch his arse with this selection lol

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I think they will give Kingsburry at least two years after just going through a one an done, but that does not protect Keim and he better watch his arse with this selection lol

You could be very right 1 more reason to stay with Rosen for Keim (Job) security

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

Hiring KK is quite a big risk in itself

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Wait, I thought Murray was the consensus #1 by every person on Earth?

Your lists are filled with lies and blasphemy!

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I think you’re misframing things . . . purposefully. I think kyler has been the consensus #1 mock draft pick. But very site have him as the #1 ranked player. And I don’t believe any, perhaps a very few, on this board have said anything otherwise.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Those 3 defense players would be rated way ahead of Murray if it was me like I said earlier there are actually too many red flags for Murray plus it actually sets a bad precedent for players coming to AZ In future as free agents to Dump A 2nd year Qb that was thrown to the wolves with a ****** coach and coordinators

Conceptually sure. It seems in real life that doesn’t really impact anything.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think you’re misframing things . . . purposefully. I think kyler has been the consensus #1 mock draft pick. But very site have him as the #1 ranked player. And I don’t believe any, perhaps a very few, on this board have said anything otherwise.

The main thing is that regardless of his ranking, nobody is denying his talent and his chance to succeed remove from the percentages based on a limited foundation to see his unknown... his career will set a huge precedent on how to look at the draft

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I think you’re misframing things . . . purposefully. I think kyler has been the consensus #1 mock draft pick. But very site have him as the #1 ranked player. And I don’t believe any, perhaps a very few, on this board have said anything otherwise.

No he isnt check Walter football mock draft database he was for quite simetime but there a few now flipping over to Bosa and or Q

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Some people have tunnel vision along with blinders and don't understand why your do called "best " player has risks that many don't feel are necessary.

I find this post incredibly funny because Krang started as one of the Murray bashers and after really studying his film (unlike most of the kyler haters) he actually did a 180. And you’re saying he has “tunnel vision.” Funny stuff man. Funny stuff.

I actually find what Krang did to be refreshing in this time and age of taking a position and digging in your heels and seeking the most ridiculous arguments possible to support your position. Krang, I applaud you.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If Gil has him that low PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE NOTICE that man has lived breathed and ate football ever since I have been alive

“That low” - 7th. In terms of just talent. Then adjust for position and Murray becomes very draftable at #1.

 

[JeffGollin]

There are 2 ways you can set up a board or mock -

1. Which players you think have the most talent

2. How you think each team will rate each player

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I have said in many comments and post that Murray has just one system he can actually function in and it's a system that KK runs Now when and if he is fired which after last season could happen next year the New Coach/Gm will want their guy and 9 chances out of 10 IT WONT BE MURRAY

I love when people make their opinion sound like a fact. It’s funny.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You could be very right 1 more reason to stay with Rosen for Keim (Job) security

If Keim is making decisions based on his job security it’s not necessarily in the long term best interest of the team. Fail.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The main thing is that regardless of his ranking, nobody is denying his talent and his chance to succeed remove from the percentages based on a limited foundation to see his unknown... his career will set a huge precedent on how to look at the draft

100% agree. His career, good or bad, should be fascinating.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No he isnt check Walter football mock draft database he was for quite simetime but there a few now flipping over to Bosa and or Q

Bah moving the goalposts. When someone is trying to mock posters’ past comments you have to look at the past data upon which the mocking is based, not what’s happening right now. Poor argument.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I love when people make their opinion sound like a fact. It’s funny.

Actually was stating what almost every major draft site has and is saying about Murray the system has to be tailored to him he is a One system QB if ya dont think he can adjust to different systems Then Dont Touch him

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

There are 2 ways you can set up a board or mock -

1. Which players you think have the most talent

2. How you think each team will rate each player

No, the first is a draft board. The second is a mock draft. They are different things with different drivers and goals.

 

[slanidrac16]

Just remember, the cash register will start ringing the moment kyler Murray’s name is mentioned as the first pick. Don’t think for one second that doesn’t play a role here.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I find this post incredibly funny because Krang started as one of the Murray bashers and after really studying his film (unlike most of the kyler haters) he actually did a 180. And you’re saying he has “tunnel vision.” Funny stuff man. Funny stuff.

I actually find what Krang did to be refreshing in this time and age of taking a position and digging in your heels and seeking the most ridiculous arguments possible to support your position. Krang, I applaud you.

Thanks. I wanted to hate Murray as a prospect just like I hated Wilson as a prospect.

What I saw was that there was nothing he did on the field to hate. He has warts like any prospect, sure, but he could be the best player in this draft and I'm pretty confident hes going to be significantly better than Josh Rosen.

I think the Cardinals are going to chicken out and not draft Murray. It take big cajones to draft Murray and Keim has baby boy balls.