Somers Article: Whisenhunt wants players to trust the system

[Timm Rosenbach]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...ona-cardinals-routine-must-yield-results.html

Just as he has told us in every post-game presser, Whisenhunt doesn't feel the need to adjust anything

 

[juza76]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...ona-cardinals-routine-must-yield-results.html

Just as he has told us in every post-game presser, Whisenhunt doesn't feel the need to adjust anything

AFTER THE MEMORABLE PERFORMANCE IN THIS SEASON I THINK NOBODY WILL TRUST THE SISTEM

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I disagree with Whiz here. I understand having a system, but as a eat a salad with the same dressing and fixin's everyday, I can say there is a flaw to this.

These players are top of the line athletes, you have to challenges them. Get them in a rut, and they get complacent, lazy, and learn the system so well that they look good but are not doing good.

Gotta change it up a little here and there. I am not talking wholesale shoot all the coaches and trade all the players.

Just challenge them, change things up a little. What is the worst that can happen ? We lose ?

At this point is that really something to be scared of ?

 

[kerouac9]

I'm not sure by what Whiz means by "the system". I don't really care about varying the practice schedule, but if you're talking about the offensive plays, then you have to make changes. The plays that worked when Kurt Warner was your QB aren't going to work when Derek Anderson is your QB, or if Tom Brady was your QB, or if Joe Flacco was your QB.

If Whis remains confidence that you don't have to tailor your offense to fit your players and that you can continue to improve doing the same things you did with personnel, were never going to get out of this tailspin.

 

[Zeno]

Any coach in any sport knows you have to tailor your game plan to the players you have available. We all learn at an early age the square peg doesn't fit in the round hole and that is what we are seeing on the football field...this is where I really think Whisenhunt needs a strong willed OC to speak up in meetings and point these things out to him. You just can't become so enamored with a system and be so stubborn not to change it and expect to be succesful.

This is exactly why I don't think McNabb would be succesful here, he doesn't fit the system Whisenhunt runs and that may explain why they had no interest in him.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I'm not sure by what Whiz means by "the system". I don't really care about varying the practice schedule, but if you're talking about the offensive plays, then you have to make changes. The plays that worked when Kurt Warner was your QB aren't going to work when Derek Anderson is your QB, or if Tom Brady was your QB, or if Joe Flacco was your QB.

If Whis remains confidence that you don't have to tailor your offense to fit your players and that you can continue to improve doing the same things you did with personnel, were never going to get out of this tailspin.

Tailspin continues. I expect the same garbage from Whisenhunt in this week's press conferences: "Just need to execute"

 

[Evil Ash]

Tailspin continues. I expect the same garbage from Whisenhunt in this week's press conferences: "Just need to execute"

Its called coachspeak. Get used to it. We're going to hear the same thing after every debacle left this season.

 

[Jersey Girl]

Its called coachspeak. Get used to it. We're going to hear the same thing after every debacle left this season.

I hope so. Something to look forward to.

 

[conraddobler]

They just spent a lot of time on the broadcast talking about how Haley was told by his father and Parcells, don't be a system coach.

So, where does that leave us with Whiz?

Up an odious small body of naturally moving water without an adequate means of transportation IMO.

 

[PaulW]

The coaches for my grand kids have a better game plan than Whizenhunt. Trust what system, run the ball up the middle on the 11 yard line when the OL can't run block but then again Anderson can't throw a 10 yard pass.

The Cardinal coaches were just out coached again as usual. Whiz has no idea, Grimm has no idea, and Davis has no idea. This is a real mess created by the FO and the coaching staff that thinks they are better than every one else.

 

[PaulW]

I guess we will hear the same crap on the Monday presser.

Maybe Whiz will say he was out coached by an Xcardinal. KC has a great bunch of coaches and the Cardinals have a bunch of guys that think they can coach and never have to make adjustments at half time. Let's continue to allow Cassel to throw over the middle and try to cover WR with Hayes and Lenon. Davis and Grimm has to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bg7brd]

The coaches for my grand kids have a better game plan than Whizenhunt. Trust what system, run the ball up the middle on the 11 yard line when the OL can't run block but then again Anderson can't throw a 10 yard pass.

The Cardinal coaches were just out coached again as usual. Whiz has no idea, Grimm has no idea, and Davis has no idea. This is a real mess created by the FO and the coaching staff that thinks they are better than every one else.

This is B.S. I blame the players. Missed tackles, dropped passes, crap passes, stupid penalties, etc. This is on the players themselves.

 

[Bobcat]

According to the announcers today Todd Haily agrees with Bill Parcels that you should never ever for a system on your plays but let your players play to their strengths. In other words develop a system around them.

 

[PJ1]

This is B.S. I blame the players. Missed tackles, dropped passes, crap passes, stupid penalties, etc. This is on the players themselves.

It's both but I also put alot of this on the players. They have been awful. Too much talent to be this bad. Although hard to overcome the poor QB play.

 

[CtCardinals78]

This is B.S. I blame the players. Missed tackles, dropped passes, crap passes, stupid penalties, etc. This is on the players themselves.

Coaches coach players up to play. They put their players in position to make plays and to call play to maximize their talent. The fact that there has been such a substantial dropoff in player performance tells me that this team has given up on the coaching staff. There's enough blame to go around for everyone, but Wiz's mismanagement of this team and off-season are big contributing factors.

 

[bg7brd]

Coaches coach players up to play. They put their players in position to make plays and to call play to maximize their talent. The fact that there has been such a substantial dropoff in player performance tells me that this team has given up on the coaching staff. There's enough blame to go around for everyone, but Wiz's mismanagement of this team and off-season are big contributing factors.

Today's game falls on the players. We had a decent game plan on offense but the players kept shooting themselves in the foot with poor execution, horrible passes, dropped passes and stupid penalties at the worst time. There's only so much the coaches can do. Once the players take the field they need to perform. They've been playing football long enough to know how to block and tackle. The defense on the other hand is a complete mess. Thankfully Bill _avis only has 6 more games as DC. I've never seen such an anemic pass rush.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

History repeating itself. Whisenhunt level stubborn buffoonery

-Sticking with Amos Jones and Drew Butler
-No plan for the Quarterback of the future
-Throwing the ball (even in pouring rain) when you have David Johnson

The "system" only works if it evolves. No wonder it took him so long to get a Head Coaching job

 

[PACardsFan]

That's exactly why Pittsburgh eventually fired him. The players loved him, but he wouldn't change his proclivity to throw the ball & the rest was history.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

That's exactly why Pittsburgh eventually fired him. The players loved him, but he wouldn't change his proclivity to throw the ball & the rest was history.

Whisenhunt and Haley took that stubbornness and both got canned. No mercy for the stubborn. Next year could be a 5-11 disaster if Bidwill doesn't take charge this week

 

[Cards_Campos]

History repeating itself. Whisenhunt level stubborn buffoonery

-Sticking with Amos Jones and Drew Butler
-No plan for the Quarterback of the future
-Throwing the ball (even in pouring rain) when you have David Johnson

The "system" only works if it evolves. No wonder it took him so long to get a Head Coaching job

I couldn't agree more...if I could like this 1000 times. It would be to little

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I couldn't agree more...if I could like this 1000 times. It would be to little

Michael Bidwill earned my ultimate respect when he sent Whisenhunt packing. I expect Amos Jones to get his bags packed on bloody Monday. Bidwill runs the organization, not Arians