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IMO - Warner, particularly last year, was the ultimate YAC QB. And, frankly, that's what Fitz, Q, Breaston, and hopefully now, Early are all about.
 

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I think Whis sees that calm water does not carry a ship very far. Shaking it up a bit and seeing what DA can do is not a bad thing in preseason. We may have to rely on this guy. He is an inaccurate Qb but has some leadership skills. Matt has been sat down before and has worked his butt off to get back to being the guy. He still has to win over his coach and teammates by showing leadership.( I feel he has done pretty well). Whis will deserve plenty of kudos if this pays off and we get a Qb that can lead but he will also deserve the blame if we start out 2-4 and he Yo Yo'd players like he has done in the past to vets. From all we have seen Matt deserves to get a shot Qb'ing this team. CC Anderson may get the ball off with a breakdown but it more than likely will be a turnover if he is rushed. He really is inaccurate. I would rather have a sack in that situation of our OL breaking down.
 

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Wells dig was not welcome, it wasn't a fumble mo matter what the official stupis say. his knee was down.

And on top of that The Bean had 2 fumbles lost in 179 carries, THT had 4 in143.
So don't feed me crap and call it honey.

I did see beanie drop his first cachable pass, and He made the blocks but not with autority every time in protection, but effective.

They both deserve to play but Istill say THT was best releiving Edge with fresh legs and burst role about 10 carries a game.

The Bean is a featue back workhorse 20+ carries a game from the power formation.

Matt is a top 10 NFL QB, with or without Whiz and the Cardinals. DA is not.
 

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Wells dig was not welcome, it wasn't a fumble mo matter what the official stupis say. his knee was down.

And on top of that The Bean had 2 fumbles lost in 179 carries, THT had 4 in143.
So don't feed me crap and call it honey.

I did see beanie drop his first cachable pass, and He made the blocks but not with autority every time in protection, but effective.

They both deserve to play but Istill say THT was best releiving Edge with fresh legs and burst role about 10 carries a game.

The Bean is a featue back workhorse 20+ carries a game from the power formation.

Matt is a top 10 NFL QB, with or without Whiz and the Cardinals. DA is not.


LMAO... seems you might know more/better than Coach Whiz. How do you do that? :D
 

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Typical ASFN, people have to make it personal.

I hereby dub DA short bus, it's short bus vs. toast in an epic QB struggle.
 
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I haven't seen this mentioned a lot, but most of Anderson's work in the preseason has come against second and third string defenses. And he still can't complete 60% of his passes. It's yet another reason I'm baffled that anyone has been impressed with DA enough to think he should start. The guy has been nothing but mediocre this summer.
 

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I haven't seen this mentioned a lot, but most of Anderson's work in the preseason has come against second and third string defenses. And he still can't complete 60% of his passes. It's yet another reason I'm baffled that anyone has been impressed with DA enough to think he should start. The guy has been nothing but mediocre this summer.

Guys like Whiz always think they can remold a guy with a big arm like DA, and maybe he can.

IMO Matt is the most unwhiz kind of QB possible, Whiz did not draft him, does not like his game, his attitude, pretty much nothing about Matt the football player makes Whiz happy.

So I think Whiz and our QB coach have fallen for a big arm and are about to reap the sewn oats of that relationship.

You really never know but the history of remolding guys like DA is spotty at best.

If I was Matt's friend I'd tell him to just be quiet, and never for a 2nd consider resigning with this team, not that he'll get an offer he won't but he should just move on to a place where someone likes how he approaches the game.

It's really not that complex, lots of times you get this where the coach and a player just don't mix at all, that's what we have here IMO.
 
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You also dono't throw away what could be a franchise QB to go with a proven loser because the HC doesn't care for the good QB on the roster!
 

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It's really not that complex, lots of times you get this where the coach and a player just don't mix at all, that's what we have here IMO.

I believe you're right. It probably is that simple. But if that's the case, why not secure a better alternative than Derek Anderson? Whis seems too calculated to make such a reckless move.
 

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I believe you're right. It probably is that simple. But if that's the case, why not secure a better alternative than Derek Anderson? Whis seems too calculated to make such a reckless move.

I think that was addressed in another thread, I don't think he had a choice, I think Warner retired a year early, I think our FO felt we had a feasible plan B and I think Whiz did not agree but lost the battle to get a better replacement than DA so he just decided to go with DA after he saw enough of him to think he could, I think that it's that simple.
 

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Guys like Whiz always think they can remold a guy with a big arm like DA, and maybe he can.

IMO Matt is the most unwhiz kind of QB possible, Whiz did not draft him, does not like his game, his attitude, pretty much nothing about Matt the football player makes Whiz happy.

So I think Whiz and our QB coach have fallen for a big arm and are about to reap the sewn oats of that relationship.

You really never know but the history of remolding guys like DA is spotty at best.

If I was Matt's friend I'd tell him to just be quiet, and never for a 2nd consider resigning with this team, not that he'll get an offer he won't but he should just move on to a place where someone likes how he approaches the game.

It's really not that complex, lots of times you get this where the coach and a player just don't mix at all, that's what we have here IMO.

This.

BTW I think you are one of the most even minded posters on this board. Hopefully you will be around more once the season starts.
 

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Yup. And Mark Anderson wasn't there to challenge Brandon Keith on the other side.

It's weird how often you'll look at the OL in the middle of running plays and they'll just be standing there looking around. You'll see this especially with Levi Brown, who on one run seemed surprised that Hightower got out of the pile and was suddenly standing next to him looking for someone to block.

Levi Brown chose to block nobody. Perhaps part of Russ Grimm's coaching is that you don't play to the whistle
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I'm glad somebody else noticed this. It's just amazing how much Levi stands around. Also I've noticed that the Cards olinemen tend to shove pass rushers more than the olinemen on other teams. Big Baby does it on every play. Never gets within arms length of the rusher. Weird that someone that size would not use his bulk to shield the QB.

I think it is something other DCs have noticed and is why they emphasize the wide outside speed rush. "If that is all the Cards are going to do we'll just run outside and then cut back in once they shove." Then they throw in the inside spin move as a change of pace.
 

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