Source: Amare Doesn't Want To Play In Cleveland

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There goes all of our trade leverage with Miami as well. Kerr played chicken and lost me thinks.
 

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Not his fault. Better that than him getting crappy deals for Amare.

Everything is the Front Offices fault. They shouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

Besides, if you all you get is crap offers for Amare....you take the best Crap available and try and turn it into something. Provided you don't take on terrible contracts, there is no scenario where losing Amare for nothing is good.

Let's not pretend this is the first player situation the Suns have screwed up.

I am still holding out hope there is a good deal to be had out there.
 

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Everything is the Front Offices fault. They shouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

Besides, if you all you get is crap offers for Amare....you take the best Crap available and try and turn it into something. Provided you don't take on terrible contracts, there is no scenario where losing Amare for nothing is good.

Let's not pretend this is the first player situation the Suns have screwed up.

I am still holding out hope there is a good deal to be had out there.

You don't trade just to trade. Did you read what you just posted? If all you get is crap offers, you take crap offers? Um, what? Where is that in the trading rulebook?
 

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You don't trade just to trade. Did you read what you just posted? If all you get is crap offers, you take crap offers? Um, what? Where is that in the trading rulebook?
Right under the section where it talks about "Your current roster and championship run has run it's course and it's time to cut your losses and regroup." :D

If you've got a good team with a future then hell no, you don't make bad trades just to make trades.

When are you going to wake up and realize that this team is going nowhere? You get what you can while you can. Its ABSOLUTELY the FO's fault that our few assets weren't move for better value sooner rather than later.
 

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You don't trade just to trade. Did you read what you just posted? If all you get is crap offers, you take crap offers? Um, what? Where is that in the trading rulebook?

Trading to trade would be if you wanted to get rid of him and didn't care what you got in return. You don't let guys walk either because you couldn't get a blockbuster in return. Especially, if you know you are not going to get said offer.

Beggars can't be choosers if it means you go hungry. Nothing still equals nothing. There is nothing worse than nothing.
 

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What would you rather have for dinner tonight, a big plate of horse crap or nothing.

If that crap is a late first rounder and some other young guys that I "might" be able to package in another trade down the road?????

Where is my napkin? That's still better then nothing.
 

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If that crap is a late first rounder and some other young guys that I "might" be able to package in another trade down the road?????

Where is my napkin? That's still better then nothing.

I would rather watch Amare playing his butt off for the rest of the season to showcase his talent than watch the Suns once again get taken to the cleaners.

JJ Hickson and the #30 pick sounds like the kind of crappy deal you get in a sign and trade.
 

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If the only offers you get are unacceptable crap, you turn them down and hope for a better one later, period. Lots of things could happen between now and this summer, including Stoudemire's value going up. It's not likely, but it's possible. For that matter, maybe he'll come to his senses about the economic future of the NBA and accept a more modest extension. Trading him for five cents on the dollar -- and that's what Hickson would have been -- is simply not an option. Yes, you have to cut your losses, but there are limits. Much better to risk losing him for nothing than to give him away for a saltine.
 

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I would rather watch Amare playing his butt off for the rest of the season to showcase his talent than watch the Suns once again get taken to the cleaners.

Letting him walk for nothing is worse then getting taking to the cleaners. You just got your pocket picked and didn't even call the police.
 

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Letting him walk for nothing is worse then getting taking to the cleaners. You just got your pocket picked and didn't even call the police.

It's a bad analogy, because he hasn't left for nothing yet. He might and he might not; in the meantime, you have to play the percentages. What you wanted the Suns to do was set fire to 95% of their cash instead of walking through an area of town where they might get pickpocketed.
 

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It's a bad analogy, because he hasn't left for nothing yet. He might and he might not; in the meantime, you have to play the percentages. What you wanted the Suns to do was set fire to 95% of their cash instead of walking through an area of town where they might get pickpocketed.

No what I wanted is for the Suns to leave the table with a few poker chips in hopes of doing something with said poker chips down the line. It would be a gamble but you can't win if you don't play. If Amare walks they were never in the game.
 
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