Source: C’s closer to KG deal

[dodie53]

http://celtics.bostonherald.com/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1007567

ugh.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Screw the Celtics...KG...come HERE!

 

[dodie53]

Screw the Celtics...KG...come HERE!

i agree.

 

[HooverDam]

Im fine w/ the Suns keeping it all together and just doing some small things, like moving Banks and signing Grant Hill. I'd be happy if KG went to Boston, it strengthens the East, may revive one of the NBAs most important franchises, its a good situation for the league.

 

[mathbzh]

Call me a nostalgic but I would like to see a good Celtics team against.
If we can't get KG I am fine with him playing for them.

 

[mathbzh]

But if we can get him... celtics can still tank one more season

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Call me a nostalgic but I would like to see a good Celtics team against.
If we can't get KG I am fine with him playing for them.

With what the Celtics will have to give up for him, they'll still suck. He'll be in the same boat as Minny.

 

[mathbzh]

With what the Celtics will have to give up for him, they'll still suck. He'll be in the same boat as Minny.

Pierce+KG is a nice duo to start with...

 

[mathbzh]

If Rondo improves who knows...

 

[HooverDam]

With what the Celtics will have to give up for him, they'll still suck. He'll be in the same boat as Minny.

No they won't. What you just said is "Ricky Davis is an equal player to Paul Pierce" if you believe that, you don't follow basketball. Ricky Davis is a fine player, probably a nice 3rd option on a good team, but certainly not a reliable second option. In the NBA if you want to be a top team, you seem to need 2 All Stars with a nice supporting cast. Boston wouldn't be very deep and wouldn't have a great supporting cast, but Pierce and KG are two superstars and Gomes is a nice 3rd option, and he'll continue to develop. Wally Szerbiak will be there too, and he can fill it up when hot. KG would be dramatically increasing his chances of winning by 1. having a better 2nd fiddle, 2. going to a much weaker conference.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

The article doesnt ever link the deal with minnesota with garnett explicitly going there

"deal for garnett" can be translated a couple ways

boston is in talks with minnesota about a deal for garnett...involving a 3 way with phoenix

hell you could say minnesota is in talks about a deal for garnett

Journalists know how to use their words

Yeah I know its a stretch...

 

[Diawsome]

I would question the intelligence of the Celtics front office but with Danny Ainge in charge it just seems pointless.

What is the point in giving up Jefferson. KG is good but fielding a team of just Pierce & KG isn't going to make the Celtics all that good and the few teams that could make a play for KG aren't going to offer anything near that. Chicago doesn't have the salary to match up a Garnett deal, Suns aren't even listening to any deal with Amare in it and no one else has the contracts and talent to make a deal possible. If the gave up Jefferson they would basically be the Texas Rangers when they outbid their own offer for Alex Rodriguez.

 

[HooverDam]

Why do people keep saying a combo of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett isn't that good? Are you out of your minds? Thats an insanely talented combo. You have one of the top 3 best interior players, and probably one of the top 10-15 wings on the same team!

Pierce averages 25 points a game, KG usually averages about 22 plus 11 boards and a boat load of blocks. How is that not a great duo? Lets try to list better duos in the NBA

Nash/Amare
Duncan/Parker
Dirk/Howard

Maybe? All of those are debatable, I know Pierce doesn't get watched by people very often because he's been on a terrible team for a while, but Pierce and KG on the same team, they'd be very good. Playoff lock, and possibly quite more.

How many teams in the East are better? The Cavs? Probably not. Pistons? Depends on their off season. The Heat? Shaqs getting old, but the Heats supporting cast is better. Toronto? Bosh is good, but he doesn't have a #2 like Pierce. Chicago? Maybe, they are less star oriented and more of a team

I think w/ Pierce and KG you have to consider Boston a top 4-5 team in the East.

 

[Diawsome]

Is being a 2nd tier team in the eastern conference good enough for giving up all of that young talent for 1-2 years of KG? Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland would all still be better and you could add in Miami if they can stay healthy.

Yes they would have Pierce & KG which would be one of the better duos in the league but this deal would leave their bench in ruins, just look at the Suns to see the problems that arise when you have a little to no bench productivity. This deal not only doesn't make them contenders but it really sacrifices their future.

 

[HooverDam]

The Suns made it to the WCF a few years back w/ no bench and the East is weaker than that West was. The Cavs made it to the FINALS this year with one superstar and little else. I don't find it hard to believe that KG-Wally-Gomes-Pierce-West-Rondo-Perkins rotation would make it to the ECF.

 

[Diawsome]

The Suns starting 5 was also better then the Celtics starting 5 would be.

I'm not saying they wouldn't be any good I just don't see them getting past the Bulls, Pistons, Cavs or a healthy Heat squad in the East which would mean 2nd round at best. So giving up a top 5 pick in one of the deepest drafts in the last 25 years, a potential franchise big man in Jefferson and a good point guard in West/Rondo wouldn't be worth it for just playoff appearances.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Why do people keep saying a combo of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett isn't that good? Are you out of your minds? Thats an insanely talented combo. You have one of the top 3 best interior players, and probably one of the top 10-15 wings on the same team!

Pierce averages 25 points a game, KG usually averages about 22 plus 11 boards and a boat load of blocks. How is that not a great duo? Lets try to list better duos in the NBA

Nash/Amare
Duncan/Parker
Dirk/Howard

Maybe? All of those are debatable, I know Pierce doesn't get watched by people very often because he's been on a terrible team for a while, but Pierce and KG on the same team, they'd be very good. Playoff lock, and possibly quite more.

How many teams in the East are better? The Cavs? Probably not. Pistons? Depends on their off season. The Heat? Shaqs getting old, but the Heats supporting cast is better. Toronto? Bosh is good, but he doesn't have a #2 like Pierce. Chicago? Maybe, they are less star oriented and more of a team

I think w/ Pierce and KG you have to consider Boston a top 4-5 team in the East.

No one is denying its a talented combo, but its still not going to get them far enough, even in the east conference.

To be honest I think a pierce/jefferson/marion/perkins/west team would beat a pierce/garnett/perkins/west/green team

You lose jefferson's 16/11 for KGs 22/12. Youre getting a better Jefferson with more assists. Meanwhile youre losing your fan favorite big man and taking on a huge contract which can opt out next season anyway. Who knows if KG even wants to play there.


For KG, I would think its certainly not worth leaving the team you declared loyalty to 10 years ago.

When you break down in an interview and confess you are tired of losing, do you then head to boston to take your chances there? No

Would KG have a CHANCE at winning the finals in boston? yes

Would KG WIN the finals in phoenix? Yes

Its completely a non issue for a victory-determind-garnett point of view in my opinion

 

[dodie53]

come to phoenix KG..
don't be shy..
=)

 

[wsupkid]

In the NBA if you want to be a top team, you seem to need 2 All Stars with a nice supporting cast. Boston wouldn't be very deep and wouldn't have a great supporting cast, but Pierce and KG are two superstars and Gomes is a nice 3rd option, and he'll continue to develop. Wally Szerbiak will be there too, and he can fill it up when hot. KG would be dramatically increasing his chances of winning by 1. having a better 2nd fiddle, 2. going to a much weaker conference.

I call BS,
Minny had enough chances with KG, Spree, and ET. With a supporting cast. There is no way KG things this is a legit chance for him to win with Danny making the calls.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I call BS,
Minny had enough chances with KG, Spree, and ET. With a supporting cast. There is no way KG things this is a legit chance for him to win with Danny making the calls.

enough chances? they played one year together and the next year, ET was injured most of the time and Spree was injured and distracted becaus eofhis contract. how that's "enough chances" is a kind of a head-scratcher to me.

and bottom line, if #5, Jefferson, Ratliff and Wally get a deal done, the Wolves are just as talented as anyone else in the East with two superstars and two guuys that are decent players with West and Gomez, who are young and getting better.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I think you mean celtics

 

[Goldfield]

IMO the Suns make more sense for Garnett(who holds all the cards on a deal), and Boston would be much improved if they added Marion to their team.

Sucks we didnt get this years Atlanta pick so we could offer a damn good trade. But I think of all the offers sofar we are pretty close.

 

[Goldfield]

IMO the Suns make more sense for Garnett(who holds all the cards on a deal), and Boston would be much improved if they added Marion to their team.

Sucks we didnt get this years Atlanta pick so we could offer a damn good trade. But I think of all the offers sofar we are pretty close.

 

[Gaddabout]

I don't blame Minny for looking at what Boston is offering. If I'm going to lose KG one way or another, 24-year-old Al Jefferson + the No. 5 pick would look more enticing than a 31-year-old Shawn Marion + whatever else the Suns could offer. Even the Atlanta pick is not very enticing. Better to have a No. 5 pick this year than who knows what next year in a mediocre draft.

 

[slinslin]

Shawn Marion just turned 29, not 31.