Starks or Rackers

[100%CardsFan]

I really dont understand how "good" our D is when we would give my grandmother 100+ yards on the ground.

 

[Pariah]

I really dont understand how "good" our D is when we would give my grandmother 100+ yards on the ground.

You're Alexander's grandson?! Alexander has boobies?!

You learn something new everyday.

 

[cardcrazy]

Yes Starks should have just made the tackle!!!!! But I agree that McCown played poorly, like he was afraid to throw to his recievers. If they are not open after a 4 count then you MUST get out of the pocket! If you just stand there long enough with the ball in one hand, something bad will happen! Josh should have a chance to run this team next year because he has improved somewhat, but I believe we should draft a QB in the first 3 rounds also. Alex Wood also is to blame. 5 minutes to play, down by 10 and you run the ball 3 times in a row! Emmitt has not been successful all game and time is valuable. Dont get it!

Well, hears to another poor season and getting my hopes up for next year. Its been nice suffering with you guys!

 

[100%CardsFan]

You're Alexander's grandson?! Alexander has boobies?!

You learn something new everyday.

Pariah, how are you doing bro? It was great to sit down and bullsh1t with you a couple weeks ago.

 

[100%CardsFan]

Yes Starks should have just made the tackle!!!!! But I agree that McCown played poorly, like he was afraid to throw to his recievers. If they are not open after a 4 count then you MUST get out of the pocket! If you just stand there long enough with the ball in one hand, something bad will happen! Josh should have a chance to run this team next year because he has improved somewhat, but I believe we should draft a QB in the first 3 rounds also. Alex Wood also is to blame. 5 minutes to play, down by 10 and you run the ball 3 times in a row! Emmitt has not been successful all game and time is valuable. Dont get it!

Well, hears to another poor season and getting my hopes up for next year. Its been nice suffering with you guys!

Well the last 2 games I saw McCown has scored in the 4th qtr more than anyone else....Damn I wish Jake wasnt his mentor.


McCown played fine in my opinion, it being his first year as a starter and dealing with all this Denny Green ********.

 

[ajcardfan]

Scapegoating either guy is not exactly right. It's easy to focus on a couple of plays late in the game, but the game was really lost long before then falling behind 24-7.

All three parts of the team contribute to the loss. And, if you really want to look at one play as the key play, the punt return we gave up in the first half was the biggest momentum switcher. We had completely shut them down to that point, and they get the short field after that, tie it up, and killed our early good play.

 

[100%CardsFan]

Scapegoating either guy is not exactly right. It's easy to focus on a couple of plays late in the game, but the game was really lost long before then falling behind 24-7.

All three parts of the team contribute to the loss. And, if you really want to look at one play as the key play, the punt return we gave up in the first half was the biggest momentum switcher. We had completely shut them down to that point, and they get the short field after that, tie it up, and killed our early good play.

Great point. But I come from the school of "Laces Out"

You are right though 100%

Nidan why dont you just close this thread as usual

 

[pete]

It was the damn defense, again. I've been saying it for about 8 games now. The same defense that let the worst team in the league drive the ball down field and score in overtime.

Blow the D up and start over.

 

[Stout]

These morons both lost the game. Rackers I give some understanding to cause it was a 50 yard plus FG but if ******** Starks would have just tackled Dilfer this would have gone back to us. I am so PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish the score would have just stayed 24-7 cause then I might have been able to just accept the loss.

I just shut off my phone and I am going to try to drink myself to death.

Excuse me? Rackers, a moron for missing a FIFTY-TWO yard FG? After the IDIOT QB took a 10 plus yard sack? Oh, sure, let's blame it on that moron Rackers all right

 

[Shane]

Excuse me? Rackers, a moron for missing a FIFTY-TWO yard FG? After the IDIOT QB took a 10 plus yard sack? Oh, sure, let's blame it on that moron Rackers all right

With Rackers leg IMO he should be money from 52. It was long enough.

 

[PJ1]

With Rackers leg IMO he should be money from 52. It was long enough.

You can't blame any kicker for missing a 52 yd field goal.

 

[Shane]

You can't blame any kicker for missing a 52 yd field goal.

Sure I can. Thats their job. A job they are payed very well to do. Especially a guy like Rackers who easily has the leg to make it from 55 on in. I can certainly lay blame on him. He should still make a long one as long as the snap and hold are all good which they were. He blew the FG not Josh.

But Blame for the game and not giving us a cjance to go for the lead or tie I truly lay on the shoulders of Duane Starks!

 

[Stout]

Sure I can. Thats their job. A job they are payed very well to do. Especially a guy like Rackers who easily has the leg to make it from 55 on in. I can certainly lay blame on him. He should still make a long one as long as the snap and hold are all good which they were. He blew the FG not Josh.

But Blame for the game and not giving us a cjance to go for the lead or tie I truly lay on the shoulders of Duane Starks!

Horse hockey, and it would be much stronger language if I wouldn't get banned for it. You're full of it. The QB takes a stupid sack and you're blaming the kicker for missing a FG over 50 yards. Truly incredible. And, Mr. Smart Guy, when you come out with your 'Josh isn't to blame in the least for that sack' spiel, just figure on hearing 'Rackers isn't to blame in the least for the missed FG'. Because, sure, you can point at Rackers and blame him, but to do so and try to keep the blame off your boy is just hypocritical.

 

[Shane]

Horse hockey, and it would be much stronger language if I wouldn't get banned for it. You're full of it. The QB takes a stupid sack and you're blaming the kicker for missing a FG over 50 yards. Truly incredible. And, Mr. Smart Guy, when you come out with your 'Josh isn't to blame in the least for that sack' spiel, just figure on hearing 'Rackers isn't to blame in the least for the missed FG'. Because, sure, you can point at Rackers and blame him, but to do so and try to keep the blame off your boy is just hypocritical.

Sounds like your the hypocrite. Your hatred clouds your judgement!

 

[PJ1]

Sure I can. Thats their job. A job they are payed very well to do. Especially a guy like Rackers who easily has the leg to make it from 55 on in. I can certainly lay blame on him. He should still make a long one as long as the snap and hold are all good which they were. He blew the FG not Josh.

But Blame for the game and not giving us a cjance to go for the lead or tie I truly lay on the shoulders of Duane Starks!

You have to be kidding. A kicker that can make half of his kicks over 50 yds is tremendous. You blame Starks? Even more ridiculous as that assumes if he makes that tackle that we will come back. Not a certainty at all. We got down 24-7 because of bad run defense and special team play. And our offense stopped moving the ball when we had Seattle staggering. That is what lost this game.

 

[HeavyB3]

There are two things that McCown needs to learn (amoung others).

1. Don't take huge sacks when you are scoring position.

2. Step up and step away from pressure.

Drew Brees didn't do these things last year but now he feels the pressure, avoids costly sacks and has become a MUCH better QB.

 

[Shane]

2. Step up and step away from pressure.

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I would like to see you in the middle of a 5 step drop leaning backward, out of nowhere reverse your direction forward when you see a fast 280 lb DE baring down on you at full speed and untouched from around the corner. GOOD LUCK!

 

[HeavyB3]

I would like to see you in the middle of a 5 step drop leaning backward, out of nowhere reverse your direction forward when you see a fast 280 lb DE baring down on you at full speed and untouched from around the corner. GOOD LUCK!

I understand he has no time quite often because someone whifs a block, but there are times when he has some time, can't find someone downfield and he starts running backwards to try to get away, resulting in a longer sack. Step up, let the defender go around you, or side step out of the defenders way. I couldn't do it, but i'm not an athlete. Either way, I like Josh more and more each week. But he still has alot of improving to do.

 

[Cheesebeef]

starks and rackers are to blame? You guys really do crack me up. That one's almost as good as Graves has a plan or no one's gonna see what's coming with Sully's innovative offense.

What a joke. Our fans deserve Josh McCown as the starter next year and another year of misery.

This team should win the NFC West next year - but I fear that won't happen unless Josh all of a sudden learns how to play 60 minutes of football or we gte someone else back there with a new RB. Just my opinion.

Rackers missing a 52 yarder when Josh took a ten yard sack and Starks(who got the pick to svae the game when a Seahawk was runnign wide open for a TD, which led to points) deserve the blame - good lord.

 

[TRW]

Starks or Rakers????????? Josh McCown lost this game hands down. He has no presence about himself in the pocket and is oblivious to the idea that he needs to protect the ball or throw it away. His multpile fumbles took us out of scoring range, his interception, which was thrown up for grabs, was the nail in the coffin, and his sack added 10 yards to the FG try. Granted Starks made a dumb play, but that only lost us a chance to reclaim the game that McCown gave away. He's not the answer. He's awful.

Josh's stupid interception really was THE back breaker IMO also. It really knocked the wind right out of them. I think yesterday was a microcosm of what Josh is and probably always will be, an inconsistent and turnover prone QB. He's just not got it upstairs.

 

[TRW]

starks and rackers are to blame? You guys really do crack me up. That one's almost as good as Graves has a plan or no one's gonna see what's coming with Sully's innovative offense.

What a joke. Our fans deserve Josh McCown as the starter next year and another year of misery.

This team should win the NFC West next year - but I fear that won't happen unless Josh all of a sudden learns how to play 60 minutes of football or we gte someone else back there with a new RB. Just my opinion.

Rackers missing a 52 yarder when Josh took a ten yard sack and Starks(who got the pick to svae the game when a Seahawk was runnign wide open for a TD, which led to points) deserve the blame - good lord.

Cheesy, you are correct. Most were just answering the question between those 2 who was most responsible (at least I was).

I think the ultimate "responsible" party is, once again, Mr. McCown. It is agony watching him play QB. After that first TD he was putrid most of the rest of the first half. He also threw at least 2 balls that would have been picks if the defender had hung on to the ball. And, as in my previous post, his interception just killed them. He is eratic and is going to get Fitz and Q killed throwing all of those jump balls.

I agree with you, I have NO hope in Josh continuing as the starting QB. There just HAS to be a better alternative out there. Josh seems like a nice kid and he tries his best I'm sure he just has a deficit in talent and mental ability to be a top notch starting QB in the NFL.

 

[pete]

starks and rackers are to blame? You guys really do crack me up.

Rackers missing a 52 yarder when Josh took a ten yard sack and Starks(who got the pick to svae the game when a Seahawk was runnign wide open for a TD, which led to points) deserve the blame - good lord.

It is amusing, isn't it? You take two plays out of an entire game and single players out.

 

[Billy Flynt]

Don't you think Seattle will have to franchise Alexander, if not he should be our primary target.

They tagged Walter Jones - I don't think they have a tag to use.

 

[Billy Flynt]

This is an assinine thread.

Yes Rackers job is to kick FG. I'd like to know what the wind conditions were. The kick started straight then turned over about 20 yards out and really took a left turn on the way to the goal posts. 52 yards is a long way outdoors. He's a great kicker but must NFL kickers are 50/50 from 50+.

Starks did make a game saving INT - no we didn't score on the ensuing drive, but he saved another 7 points from going up on the board. You can't blame Starks for missing the tackle unless you blame the DE for losing contain. Why did Starks have to chase him down from the backside unless the other side of the line had been completely overmatched.

We have a "high-risk" D- that means there are players flying all over the field trying to make big plays. Obviously he makes the tackle we get the ball on a punt after the 2 min warning-- then we still have to drive the field for a FG. He makes the strip and we get a fumble recovery we may win the game in regulation.... I can't blame Starks for playing hard-

We win as a team and we lose as a team. Blame the whole D for Alexander's 3 TDs!

 

[jf-08]

Scapegoating either guy is not exactly right. It's easy to focus on a couple of plays late in the game, but the game was really lost long before then falling behind 24-7.

All three parts of the team contribute to the loss. And, if you really want to look at one play as the key play, the punt return we gave up in the first half was the biggest momentum switcher. We had completely shut them down to that point, and they get the short field after that, tie it up, and killed our early good play.

Excellent post, aj.