Start Leinart the next 2 games!!!

[Buckybird]

Kurt needs a break because mentally he is shot right now, you can see it in his eyes. His body language and confidence are blown right now. When the playoffs begin put him back in. I want to when the next 2 games but we need to think about the long term. Warner is gun shy, holding onto the ball too long and seems rattled at this point in the season. The Cards cannot improve their playoff position at all right now so Wiz needs to see if old #13 can get a spark with a 2 week rest.

 

[Shane]

No way at least 1st half of both games to keep sharp.

 

[Kablansky]

I don't know what the precidence of this sort of thing is. We likely have lost the #3 spot in the playoffs and don't necessarily gain anything by starting Warner except he could set some single season records

 

[Buckybird]

there is no way we sniff the #3 seed!!!

 

[slanidrac16]

I don't think Warners confidence is shot but I do believe his body could use a break.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

Agreed, but I don't see it happening. I surprised Leinart didn't play quite a bit more in this game. Maybe the coaches have that little of faith in him?

 

[Buckybird]

I don't think Warners confidence is shot but I do believe his body could use a break.

you must be kidding. Do you see Fitz, Q, Breaston or any other players head drop after nearly every play? Watch the guys eyes. He lacks confidence right now.

 

[Kablansky]

you must be kidding. Do you see Fitz, Q, Breaston or any other players head drop after nearly every play? Watch the guys eyes. He lacks confidence right now.

I don't really agree, I think Warner has an ego. It's not an ego like Terrell Owens and others have but he has this unadulterated feeling that he's an all world player. He has major self confidence and that's either good or bad depending on the situation.

 

[sportznutt]

I'd love to see Leinart play some.......I just hope it would be for the best of the team.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

I don't think you can find a QB that wouldn't get shacky considering what Warner is under. This is an unhuman situation to put someone under. He's doing the best with what he has. I agree tho, just give him a pat on the back and let him rest up.

 

[conraddobler]

Warner is hard to explain, it's not easy to put your finger on and his stats just leave you scratching your head.

I'll put it this way, with his stats why aren't we racking up more wins?

IMO it's cause he's old and turn over prone at the worst times, and that's not what you want to build a young team around.

They are not going to start Matt now, that's out of the question and I don't think that'd be the right thing at all to do but it's moot because it aint happening.

This was Warners year he should finish it out but next year I don't really think he should even be on the team.

 

[Evil Ash]

I don't think you can find a QB that wouldn't get shacky considering what Warner is under. This is an unhuman situation to put someone under. He's doing the best with what he has. I agree tho, just give him a pat on the back and let him rest up.

This week you can make that excuse because of the pressure on him. Prior to that though the QB protection has been solid for the most part. He usually got in trouble because he held onto the ball for too long.

I don't know if its simply a matter of him trying to hard or him "hitting the wall" but there is simply something wrong with Warner. I'm not sure if its correctable at this point.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Kurt is chasing the single season passing record and you want to bench him?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Warner is hard to explain, it's not easy to put your finger on and his stats just leave you scratching your head.

I'll put it this way, with his stats why aren't we racking up more wins?

IMO it's cause he's old and turn over prone at the worst times, and that's not what you want to build a young team around.

They are not going to start Matt now, that's out of the question and I don't think that'd be the right thing at all to do but it's moot because it aint happening.

This was Warners year he should finish it out but next year I don't really think he should even be on the team.

You really don't believe Kurt and all his numbers are enough to make up for all of the other deficiencies with this team, do you??

 

[MrYeahBut]

I dunno, Warners arm looks dead and he's got that glassy look in his eyes

 

[Buckybird]

I dunno, Warners arm looks dead and he's got that glassy look in his eyes

YEP!!! He has looked differant the last 3 games to me.

 

[conraddobler]

You really don't believe Kurt and all his numbers are enough to make up for all of the other deficiencies with this team, do you??

This teams primary deficiency is heart.

They have plenty ability, they have a want to problem and I'm not sure where that's comming from or not comming from but Kurt doesn't help it much IMO.

This particular game Kurt got hit too much to make any difference, by about the third good bell ringing he's done.

I don't think if you put Matt in it'd magicallyl get better, no I think they'd still lose.

I do think though something is to be said about getting a younger mentality out there, a more youthfull organization focused unit.

There I think Matt would be an improvement next year.

 

[82CardsGrad]

This teams primary deficiency is heart.

They have plenty ability, they have a want to problem and I'm not sure where that's comming from or not comming from but Kurt doesn't help it much IMO.

This particular game Kurt got hit too much to make any difference, by about the third good bell ringing he's done.

I don't think if you put Matt in it'd magicallyl get better, no I think they'd still lose.

I do think though something is to be said about getting a younger mentality out there, a more youthfull organization focused unit.

There I think Matt would be an improvement next year.

This I will guarantee: If we still possess the NFL's worst rushing attack and Matty is our starting QB, we will win fewer games than we did when Kurt was the QB...

Matt needs to get his shot, but it better be with an improved running attack!

 

[Kablansky]

This teams primary deficiency is heart.

Initially I was going to disagree, but I can buy this argument. It seems they show up for the "big" games and drop a duece in the bed for the others. While I believe every game on the schedule is important it seems they don't mind being humiliated on the field.

 

[Buckybird]

This teams primary deficiency is heart.

They have plenty ability, they have a want to problem and I'm not sure where that's comming from or not comming from but Kurt doesn't help it much IMO.

This particular game Kurt got hit too much to make any difference, by about the third good bell ringing he's done.

I don't think if you put Matt in it'd magicallyl get better, no I think they'd still lose.

I do think though something is to be said about getting a younger mentality out there, a more youthfull organization focused unit.

There I think Matt would be an improvement next year.

The only reason I'm saying we need to set Kurt is because he needs a mental rest as well as physical. You think he won't get knocked all over Foxboro next week? Recharge and get ready for the playoffs!!!

 

[Kablansky]

This I will guarantee: If we still possess the NFL's worst rushing attack and Matty is our starting QB, we will win fewer games than we did when Kurt was the QB...

Matt needs to get his shot, but it better be with an improved running attack!

There are a few intangibles that Leinart brings over Warner. First off is his improved mobility, while not the best in the league he is of marked improvement which keeps the defense honest. Secondly his movement is much more fluid, including his footwork which is really polished. He seems to come off the snap much faster which gives a split second more time to find the open guy. So with this in mind, I think plays develop faster which gives an advantage to the blocking and running game.

Arm strength, vision and decision making all go to Warner but I think Leinart has the ability to bring his game to another level

 

[conraddobler]

It's been theorized that Kurt hurts the running game basically because of his love for the shotgun.

I agree.

JJ should be the starting RB, Troy said as much today and I've said that for a couple weeks now.

Hightower and Edge are both too slow and we're not a power running team, JJ is the back of choice for what we do and he can catch passes.

If he started with Matt as the QB out of more balanced formation we'd run the ball just fine IMO.

 

[Buckybird]

If he started with Matt as the QB out of more balanced formation we'd run the ball just fine IMO.

You have to try to run the ball to actually run it. We haven't had that mindset since early in the season. Sometimes I think the coaches and the fans are tricked into not running because of how good the passing game and WR's are.

 

[Kablansky]

My wife and I both noticed the timeout called from the sideline when the clock was running down. The play actually got off in time but you have to wonder if the coaches are concerned with Kurt's clock managment abilities. He seemed a bit frustrated coming off the field. So many questions about this team this offseason which will be the biggest in decades

 

[conraddobler]

You have to try to run the ball to actually run it. We haven't had that mindset since early in the season. Sometimes I think the coaches and the fans are tricked into not running because of how good the passing game and WR's are.

That and Kurt has no interest in a running game at all so I think he skews their thinking.

Matt would most likely plead for it, because he's not just about stats he wants to win the game.

I'm probably getting ahead of myself but I've literally had it with Warner and this idea he's a great guy, ok he is sure but as the QB of the team I root for I'd rather get off the Warner crack and get onto more balanced football because we're never going to beat great teams doing what we're doing.

It's a road to nowhere.