Starting Pitcher trade idea

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Is it completely insane to imagine an Ortiz for Wood trade? Im not sure on the money, but maybe the Cubs have seen enough of Woods injuries and think they could restore Ortiz? Ok, now Im probably being dillusional.

No chance. They can simply let Wood walk at the end of the year, no need to take on a big contract in order to dump him.

 

[devilfan02]

Kerry Wood has been injury prone long before Dusy Baker was his manager (but I dont doubt that Baker could have made things worse). Is Kerry Wood the guy you want to spend eight figures a year on, because that is what it is going to take to sign him. And obviously if you are going to give him ace money he is going to have to pitch like an ace in order for him to live up to that contract. That means he has to be the guy that can give you 200 innings a year (something he has only done twice) and pitch well deep into games consistently, not a guy you constantly have to monitor on pitch counts.

Yes, the payoffs could be great. Obviously all you have to do is look at the Randy Johnson signing to find an example of giving big money to an injury riddled front line starter that paid big dividends. But that clearly isnt going to be the case most of the time, and there is a very large chance that the Kerry Wood we have seen for the majority of his career will be the same Kerry Wood for the next several years and that he just won't be able to stay healthy. Giving that large of a contract and having it backfire could cripple this club for several years. Wood just isnt worth that kind of risk.

As I said, IF the price tag is right... No way we give him 8 figures, I'm hopin for a discount.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

As I said, IF the price tag is right... No way we give him 8 figures, I'm hopin for a discount.

In that case, the price wont be right. This is his first year of free agency, which typically means its the only opportunity to collect the biggest paycheck of his life. Seeing a player essentially give up their free agent status in their prime to take a substantial home town discount is incredibly rare.

 

[boondockdrunk]

Kerry Wood reportedly felt "like he's been hit by a truck" after making his first start of the season Thursday.
"He's just sore everywhere, which is understandable," manager Dusty Baker said. "He had a lot more adrenaline going into his muscles than he did in Arizona. He said it's a good general soreness.''

Not a good sign for the power pitcher.

 

[overseascardfan]

The only SP trade that would immediately help us is Dontrelle Willis, but it will cost us atleast Quentin so I have my doubts that it will happen. Unlike the last two years where the best FA SP's were Pavano and Burnett, whose teams are realizing they were horrible signings, we have a good chance of improving our staff this winter. We should throw big money at Mulder and Zito, out bid everyone because they are the two best SP's available. Zito will get better not having the pressure of being a staff ace, Mulder would give us another lefty in a RH dominant rotation. Throw them in with Webb, Nippert, and Mock and our rotation becomes solid. Plus with our first two picks in the draft we could net a couple of good pitchers such as Jared Hughes, Tim Linecum, Greg Reynolds, Ian Kennedy, Dallas Buck, etc.

 

[boondockdrunk]

We should throw big money at Mulder and Zito, out bid everyone because they are the two best SP's available. Zito will get better not having the pressure of being a staff ace, Mulder would give us another lefty in a RH dominant rotation.

I am not huge on Zito. I do not know why he has struggled the last two years but I am all for signing him for about $8 or 9 million a year. Any more than that would be too much for an overhyped pitcher (he is a good pitcher but not the ace he was).

Mulder would be a great addition to this club. I would be all for signing him to about a 4 or 5 year deal.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Wood is going to be a Texas Ranger.. Mark my words on that.

Also, word through the grapevine is that Mulder really wants to come to Arizona (he's another who lives here in the post-season) and chances are the Diamondbacks are willing to engage in a bidding war with the Cardinals to get him.

 

[HooverDam]

Also, word through the grapevine is that Mulder really wants to come to Arizona (he's another who lives here in the post-season) and chances are the Diamondbacks are willing to engage in a bidding war with the Cardinals to get him.

That would be fantastic news, Webb-Moulder would be a fantastic one-two punch.

 

[boondockdrunk]

That would be fantastic news, Webb-Moulder would be a fantastic one-two punch.

That would be great, but we would also need Nippert to step up and be a good #3. I want a good balanced rotation in there to win games.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

If, and this is a big if, Nippert, Torra and Mock (or any combo of the young arms in the Diamondback system) can develop in to quality starters, and Mulder winds up being signed, you have a potentially dominant rotation in the wings, to go along with the young bats. Should everything fall in to place like this, it's fair to say Arizona will have a stranglehold on the NL West crown for the next decade.

 

[HooverDam]

If, and this is a big if, Nippert, Torra and Mock (or any combo of the young arms in the Diamondback system) can develop in to quality starters, .

Yah thats a HUGE if. Thats expecting to go 3/3. Since its baseball, I'd say going 3/10 is pretty good, so we'd need 10 young arms to insure 3 panning out according to that (very flawed) logic. The Dbacks need to unload some unneeded veterans for young pitching (Lefty relief and starters in general) in order to increase their chances of having a strong pitching staff for years to come.

Imagine if the rumored Willis trade went through. Webb-Moulder-Willis- wow!

 

[devilfan02]

From ESPN.com Rumor Mill. Whats not noted is that it says we're interested in acquiring him. Hope this doesn't happen

Compassion play?
May 25 - A change of scenery might be good for Greg Maddux, the Daily Herald reports. Though the future Hall of Famer probably won't push for a trade, his no-trade clause doesn't mean the Cubs can't investigate.
Former Cubs/Giants exec Ned Colletti is the GM in L.A., and he offered Maddux more money to sign with San Francisco than Maddux took to play for the Cubs. Arizona does things the right way, and San Diego also would be an appealing city. Maddux is owed $6 million for the rest of this season, which could stall a deal, but if the Cubs have any heart at all they'll find a way to get him out of Chicago.

 

[overseascardfan]

I think Brandon McCarthy would be a great addition and probably cost us a couple of second tier prospects (Zeringue, Shappi).

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

I think Brandon McCarthy would be a great addition and probably cost us a couple of second tier prospects (Zeringue, Shappi).

Guys like Zeringue and Shappi dont have very much trade value.

 

[Kolo]

I think Brandon McCarthy would be a great addition and probably cost us a couple of second tier prospects (Zeringue, Shappi).

I doubt we could get McCarthy for Carlos Quentin. Think about it--since there's no way you'd trade even Dustin Nippert for Zeringue and Shappi (two guys who probably will never play in the majors), why would the Sox trade McCarthy for them, who's actually looked good in the majors?

I've wondered whether the Dodgers now would take Shawn Green back for Odalis Perez (who's no longer starting, and LA has had some outfield injuries, and Green could maybe even play some first in a pinch if Nomar gets hurt again). The salaries and years under contract are essentially the same, and we don't need Green's permission to trade him back. I know Perez has sucked this year, but he's an interesting arm at least, it'd create a natural opening for Quentin.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

I've wondered whether the Dodgers now would take Shawn Green back for Odalis Perez (who's no longer starting, and LA has had some outfield injuries, and Green could maybe even play some first in a pinch if Nomar gets hurt again). The salaries and years under contract are essentially the same, and we don't need Green's permission to trade him back. I know Perez has sucked this year, but he's an interesting arm at least, it'd create a natural opening for Quentin.

I dont think thats a very good idea at all. At least Green has been productive for us.

 

[overseascardfan]

I dont think thats a very good idea at all. At least Green has been productive for us.

I agree I think Green and a prospect for Brad Penny would be a better trade.

 

[devilfan02]

I agree I think Green and a prospect for Brad Penny would be a better trade.

Why would the Dodgers take back Green for one of their best pitchers? Jeez