State of Arizona Recruit signing day ?

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What is ua "rebuilding" exactly? I didn't realize that they used to be national titile contenders or even conference title contenders...Maybe the correct term would be "building"?

And why do ua fans always have to bring up basketball, when people start to talk about football?
 
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Furthermore, I do agree that your team is improving...but how much they are improving is what I'm wondering?
 

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AZBALLER said:
What is ua "rebuilding" exactly? I didn't realize that they used to be national titile contenders or even conference title contenders...Maybe the correct term would be "building"?
UA had the second best Pac-10 record in the 1990's after Washington. They finished in the top 20 nationally 3 times in that decade, including finishing #10 in 1993 and #4 in 1998.

UA was also ranked 11th at the end of 1986 and 25th in 1989.

The Cats have had a winning tradition in the past, like it or not.
 
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UA had the second best Pac-10 record in the 1990's after Washington. They finished in the top 20 nationally 3 times in that decade, including finishing #10 in 1993 and #4 in 1998.

UA was also ranked 11th at the end of 1986 and 25th in 1989.

The Cats have had a winning tradition in the past, like it or not.

And I still believe that the 1998 team could have beaten anyone that year... Our spanking of Nebraska should have been for the national title.
 

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AZBALLER said:
What is ua "rebuilding" exactly? I didn't realize that they used to be national titile contenders or even conference title contenders...Maybe the correct term would be "building"?

And why do ua fans always have to bring up basketball, when people start to talk about football?

Dude you have had one good season since 1995 where you actually won the conference. Other than that you guys are living off a coach who last coached in the mid eighties. And he didnt even win it all. Whata joke. Take your best season the last ten years:

(Per Wikipedia)

In 1996, the Sun Devils went a surprising 11-1, highlighted by a 19-0 shutout of the number-one-ranked Nebraska Cornhuskers in Tempe. ASU quarterback Jake Plummer led the Sun Devils, propelling Arizona State into the Rose Bowl against the Ohio State Buckeyes. In a game with National Championship potential, the Sun Devils held a slim 17-14 lead with 1:47 left in the fourth quarter, but surrendered a late touchdown to Ohio State, falling by a final score of 20-17.

I believe that year you finished fourth in the polls

Now take Arizona's best season:

In 1998, the team posted a school-record 12-1 season and made the Holiday Bowl in which it defeated the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Arizona ended that season ranked 3rd nationally and 2nd in several publications

So since then all you guys have on us is a couple mediocre seasons where you underachieved. We hired a bad coach and had a very bad five year period. Bottom line, we have the right guy in place now and it takes time to salvage the garbage that Mackovic created. If Stoops would have been hired immediatly after Tomey, I guarantee you he would make Koetters progress in the last six years look very poor.

The true test will come next season, when talent wise you guys SHOULD be better than us. But you wont be. And then we will hear all these excuses about Koetter and blah blah blah. Remember this is our coaches third season. I think this is your coaches sixth. Is the talent, progress and fan base approval really THAT far off with the three year head start Dirk got? I dont think so....

Furthermore, what exactly does your signature mean? You put a quote from your pathetic ex-AD on there (who left you for a much bigger time college BTW, something our AD has had opportunities to do, but never has) in which he proseltyzes one of the worst coaches in NFL history (albiet he is a nice guy) and brings down my beloved Cardinals. And then you have say "Word!" (thanks snoop dogg:rolleyes: ) followed by you referring to yourself as a "big time Sun devil and Cardinal fan"...umm does that seem a little contradictory to anyone but me...?

You are one of my favorite posters AZBaller if only for your ignorant blinded love of ASU and the comedic relief you provide with your "insightful" comments........
 

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My sig says what I mean...I'm a season ticket holder and big fan of both the Cards and SunDevils...I'm just happy that Plummer and Suggs aren't stuck playing for a horrible owner...I'm a Phx native and former ballboy for the Cardinals, so I'll always root for them...If that seems contradictory to you, then I appoligize...It's just the way I feel...SunDevils come first, and the Cards come second.

If Tomey ran such a fine football program, then why was he fired by your great AD?

No offense, but ua was very good (not great) the year they played the Huskers in the Holiday, but they weren't 1 minute or a few pass interference penalties away from winning a national championship. That Nebraska team that ua beat was average at best...Nebraska didn't belong in that bowl game, but got in on name only, just as Notre Dame has done a lot in the past decade or so...Now, the Ohio State team that ASU coulda/woulda beat was the best team in the nation in 96/97. There is no way that a 1 loss Florida team was better...Just as much as Wuerfull didn't deserve the Heisman that year.
 

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Furthermore, thanks for the back handed compliment...I do enjoy reading everyone's opinions on ua's football team...No matter how stupid or intelligent I think they are...I hold no ill will towards any ua fans or players or faculty, I just think they picked the wrong school;)
 

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Well... I don't know about you guys. But all this bitching back and forth makes me wish opening weekend of college football was already here. :D
 

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PAQ77 said:
Well... I don't know about you guys. But all this bitching back and forth makes me wish opening weekend of college football was already here. :D

Doesn't it always seem like it's 12 months away?
 

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