Stats on Tucker

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Just because Wisconsin didn't do anything in the turney doesn't mean that Tucker isn't a good player. And Marion is an excellent fit for the system. We need to improve our toughness, defense, and rebounding. Tucker does that. It's way better than tissue soft Josh McRoberts.

didn't say he was a bad player. just don't think he'll be a good player.

marion is a great fit for the system during the regular season.

and i would've vomitted if we drafted mcroberts.

 

[cly2tw]

So, can Tucker defend the ultra quick or strong SG in the NBA? Could he be as good as Artest or Bell defensively?

 

[mribnik]

So, can Tucker defend the ultra quick or strong SG in the NBA? Could he be as good as Artest or Bell defensively?

I'm sure DJ Strawberry could, if he sticks with the team. He's an excellent defender. I don't know much about Tucker's defensive ability.

 

[hcsilla]

So, can Tucker defend the ultra quick or strong SG in the NBA?

Ultra strong-probably yes. Ultra quick-probably no.

 

[Errntknght]

Well, we have to hope he can defend well in the NBA... his FT shooting doesn't bode well for him developing a whole lot as a jump shooter or from long range. I suppose he might be good on the break - at least he 'gets up and down the floor well', according to the report on him.

I agree with whoever said we could have at least traded #24 for some second round picks since it appears that Portland was wanting to make the opposite trade. Kerr certainly doesn't get high marks in his first go at drafting.

 

[cly2tw]

"Weaknesses: At 6'5", Alando is slightly undersized to play shooting guard and is very undersized to be an NBA small forward. But his length and athleticism help ... He sometimes forces shots, not many, but some. This almost always happens near the baseline. I however doubt that this'll be much of a problem in the NBA, as he won't be called to carry the scoring load ... He still does not catch and shoot, and oftentimes takes a bit of time before making his initial move. His shooting form may be a bit of a concern. Oftentimes, an ugly yet effective form, such as Leandro Barbosa's, gets unfairly criticized. If a shot works, it works, and the form usually is exceptionally overrated. However, Tucker has a very low release point, potentially having his shot vulnerable to getting blocked. This may not be a problem, since it has not stopped other awkward shooters, like Shawn Marion ... Alando still has excellent tools to become a great defender, but he seems to not try as hard as he used to. This may be because he tries to conserve energy for the increased scoring load he carries. In the NBA, he'll have to play with intensity on the defensive side, as that'll likely be his calling card. "


So, Marion and Barbosa like shooting forms are not a good thing though.

 

[azirish]

We go through months of saying "I trust their evaluation" and now we don't. Unlike Dudley, Tucker is very athletic and he was a key guy on one of the best defensive teams in the country.

This could be the Suns version of Wilson Chandler, ie an athlete in a slow down system. Obviously after the amount of scouting the Suns did this year, they must be pretty sure they know they are getting.

 

[Covert Rain]

He is too small to post up but doesn't have much outside the short to mid jumper. Exactly how will he be effective in the NBA. He can't play PF. he is not good enough offensively to keep guys away from the paint by respecting his outside shot.

He is the classic definition of a tweener in this league.

 

[cly2tw]

He is too small to post up but doesn't have much outside the short to mid jumper. Exactly how will he be effective in the NBA. He can't play PF. he is not good enough offensively to keep guys away from the paint by respecting his outside shot.

He is the classic definition of a tweener in this league.

Too small to post up Parker, Terry, Harris too? If not, he'd be good on our team.

 

[azirish]

He is too small to post up but doesn't have much outside the short to mid jumper. Exactly how will he be effective in the NBA. He can't play PF. he is not good enough offensively to keep guys away from the paint by respecting his outside shot.

He is the classic definition of a tweener in this league.

There were several mocks that had him about that high, but I certainly didn't. Still, some of the guys I thought would be taken higher really dropped.

It does seem like the Suns had him targeted and were very sure he'd be there at #29 when they made the sale of the#24. As it was, the local radio people were reporting he'd be their pick very soon after the #24.

 

[Covert Rain]

Too small to post up Parker, Terry, Harris too? If not, he'd be good on our team.

He could post them up alright. Then on the other end he couldn't stay in front of them. That translates to being on the bench on this team.

 

[cly2tw]

He could post them up alright. Then on the other end he couldn't stay in front of them. That translates to being on the bench on this team.

It looks, he will be better than Marion at that too. At least, he could defend Manu, Howard, Stack better than Marion does, so that we could put Bell or Strawberry on Parker/Terry.

 

[TBaslim]

"Weaknesses: At 6'5", Alando is slightly undersized to play shooting guard and is very undersized to be an NBA small forward. But his length and athleticism help ... He sometimes forces shots, not many, but some. This almost always happens near the baseline. I however doubt that this'll be much of a problem in the NBA, as he won't be called to carry the scoring load ... He still does not catch and shoot, and oftentimes takes a bit of time before making his initial move. His shooting form may be a bit of a concern. Oftentimes, an ugly yet effective form, such as Leandro Barbosa's, gets unfairly criticized. If a shot works, it works, and the form usually is exceptionally overrated. However, Tucker has a very low release point, potentially having his shot vulnerable to getting blocked. This may not be a problem, since it has not stopped other awkward shooters, like Shawn Marion ... Alando still has excellent tools to become a great defender, but he seems to not try as hard as he used to. This may be because he tries to conserve energy for the increased scoring load he carries. In the NBA, he'll have to play with intensity on the defensive side, as that'll likely be his calling card. "


So, Marion and Barbosa like shooting forms are not a good thing though.

Sheesh - nice selective posting - you only put up the weaknesses section. Ever thought of putting up the strengths assessment of that same evaluation? What is up with you people and all the hate - you need to find some new hobbies or something.

Strengths: Tucker's greatest strength is his terrific athleticism, which is well above average even for NBA standards. He has a 38 inch vertical, which is usually among the top three in each draft-worthy class. He jumps off the ground rapidly, enabling him to grab rebounds and convert put backs that a player his size normally wouldn't. He doesn't run the floor much, so his speed is not exhibited, but this could be primarily due to Coach Bo Ryan's slower paced offense ... He has added strength without compromising his athletic ability. He remains a springy leaper, able to grab boards from players that are bigger and/or stronger. The offense has gotten more fast-break opportunities, and they often end with a Tucker dunk. He'll be an excellent finisher, especially in transition, due to his athletic ability … In the past 2 years he has added definition without losing agility, especially in the arms. This has allowed him to convert better after contact, to post or defend the post, and in boxing out ... Alando is blessed with a very long wingspan, making him play like someone who is 6'7". He uses his length well in defending, rebounding, and finishing close to the basket. His hands are excellent. He catches everything, and deflects with his alert hands. His hands are large enough to easily palm a ball, which is an underrated attribute for slashers ... He has greatly improved his ball-handling to the point where it's probably average if not slightly better than average for an NBA small forward. This enables him to easily beat bigger forwards off the dribble, and post up smaller guards with great intelligence and savvy ... Tucker is very patient on offense, rarely forcing the issue on ill-advised drives. This aspect of his game has shown an amazing improvement in the past year. He has added a great midrange jumper, especially after a jab step or ball-fake. Essentially, he sets up the jumper with the threat of driving. He often makes use of his superior athleticism, even when it comes to his improved J, backing his man down, then stepping out to shoot. Defensively he has terrific lateral quickness when guarding perimeter players. He uses his feet extremely well, which will be a great attribute when playing against the quicker NBA guards. Tucker's long and lively arms make it difficult for players roughly his size to pass around him. Not only a physically gifted defender, Alando is a smart defender as well. Rotates well, and is versatile enough to cover four positions in college, but probably two or three in the NBA, depending on the height/quickness of the opposition. His added strength, coupled with his wingspan, quickness, leaping ability, and smarts, will likely permit him to guard most NBA small forwards ... His size, length, and smarts, with an improved effort, could make him become a great pro defender. Despite this, it is very clear to anyone that has watched his career, from his first season as a scrappy, raw, 6'5" 190-195 lbs power forward to this year, as a polished, seasoned star capable of easily creating his own shot in a variety of ways, that his offseason training is top notch. He clearly works hard on his game–jump-shooting, dribbling, film, etc–and will likely continue to do so in the future ... His basketball IQ is very high, as he has become even more cunning on offense, He has also gained a "leader's swagger" that he previously lacked, indicating his arrival as Wisconsin's top dog.

Take a look at evals of DJ Strawberry, and you will notice a pattern - experienced, pro-ready college wings who are very athletic, can catch and finish well, really good defenders, and smart players.

Sounds like just the kind of tough bench players this team needs (and everyone has been looking for) to help on the Parkers, Manu's of the world.

Selling #24 was lame, but we did draft two nice players tonight who might actually play next year. That's a win in my book.

 

[Covert Rain]

It looks, he will be better than Marion at that too. At least, he could defend Manu, Howard, Stack better than Marion does, so that we could put Bell or Strawberry on Parker/Terry.

I seriously doubt that. He is not fast enough to say in front of guys like that at the next level in the NBA. If you honestly think he is faster then Marion then your watching a different guy then I am.

 

[cly2tw]

Sheesh - nice selective posting - you only put up the weaknesses section. Ever thought of putting up the strengths assessment of that same evaluation? What is up with you people and all the hate - you need to find some new hobbies or something.



Take a look at evals of DJ Strawberry, and you will notice a pattern - experienced, pro-ready college wings who are very athletic, can catch and finish well, really good defenders, and smart players.

Sounds like just the kind of tough bench players this team needs (and everyone has been looking for) to help on the Parkers, Manu's of the world.

Selling #24 was lame, but we did draft two nice players tonight who might actually play next year. That's a win in my book.

Hey, it was just some pesssimist sentiment taking over for a moment on my part. Don't you see I actually like both picks? I pointed his ugly form issue out just to convince myself that we can't have 3 of those on the team and one will be traded away.

 

[slinslin]

I'll be shocked if Strawberry plays more than 48 minutes in a Suns uniform next season.
He will be right after Banks on the depth charts.

 

[cly2tw]

I seriously doubt that. He is not fast enough to say in front of guys like that at the next level in the NBA. If you honestly think he is faster then Marion then your watching a different guy then I am.

Marion had the reputation of unable to stay in front of anybody till one year ago and is still unable to stay in front of Manu, Howard and Stack, despite being faster on paper than all of them. It's not about the pure speed for good defense. None of the prominent perimeter defenders like Artest, Bowen, Bell, Buckner, Hassell are particularly quick. Tucker is quicker than all the above, so that he has enough speed to stay in front of the best scorers.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Tucker reminds me a ton of Josh Howard in skillset.

 

[azirish]

I'm a little confused about why people think Tucker has no offensive skills.
In four years his scoring rose from 14 ppg to 19.9 ppg. His last year was is worst shooting season when he hit 47% of his shots. His three point shooting is not impressive, only 33% this last season but shot better his freshman year.

In reading his profile, he will have to work on his shot but some of the stuff like setting his feet, etc. may be changed relatively quickly. We'll see. But he's been able to score at high rate on a slow down team.

 

[cly2tw]

I'm a little confused about why people think Tucker has no offensive skills.
In four years his scoring rose from 14 ppg to 19.9 ppg. His last year was is worst shooting season when he hit 47% of his shots. His three point shooting is not impressive, only 33% this last season but shot better his freshman year.

In reading his profile, he will have to work on his shot but some of the stuff like setting his feet, etc. may be changed relatively quickly. We'll see. But he's been able to score at high rate on a slow down team.

I think Josh Howard didn't have much of a shot coming into the league. Now, he is quite good shooting 3-pt. But I guess he didn't have the "ugly" form Tucker is supposed to have.

 

[se7en]

He seems a lot like Corey Maggette...

 

[Gee!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2m_UARbsbw

Ok, so I haven't seen much of Tucker, but he wins in the class and 'taking the right road in life' department. I hope he can find a role on the team and sticks.

If he is athletic and can play some good D, the Suns can teach him to shoot.

Course, I thought that about Banks, so who knows.

that was a good video..

 

[azirish]

He seems a lot like Corey Maggette...

We need to get him started learning to shoot free throws!

 

[se7en]

We need to get him started learning to shoot free throws!

From his stats, he seems pretty good at drawing fouls and getting to the line. That's a nice skill to have.

 

[azirish]

More highlight reels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGyXSPPb63c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-YRtIGNrxA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4NaY1-n-0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja8P72b5nPs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_74c_oUo7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4n_GWsG8Q4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aALlCQFwJoY

He definitely can finish at the basket.

“Alando can attack the basket, score inside and get fouled,” Ryan told Suns.com. “He shot more free throws than anybody in the history of Wisconsin because he just has that ability to draw contact and get to the hole. He also improved on the perimeter, and he’s going to do even more of that in the NBA because of guys like Steve Nash that can create. That’s where Alando will really thrive. I think the Suns are a great team for him to be drafted by.”