Steve Wilks lawsuit against NFL

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Didn't Wilks fire a white McCoy before his first season was even over? Perhaps Wilks should be on the lookout for a lawsuit from McCoy
Pretty sure that’s a GM decision. Especially since McCoy was forced on Wilks by Keim, who put together the entire offensive coaching staff.
 

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Vividly recall Wilks saying it was his decision
I don’t remember that. Doesn’t change anything about the guy who hired McCoy and probably has final say about who stays and who goes on a coaching staff.
 

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I don’t remember that. Doesn’t change anything about the guy who hired McCoy and probably has final say about who stays and who goes on a coaching staff.

On whether the decision to fire McCoy was made in conjunction with general manager Steve Keim
Wilks: “It was my decision.”
 

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The lawsuit fails to mention that he still got paid for 3 more years after being fired. Not sure what he suing for. Maybe the Cardinals should counter sue for all the money he was paid after he was fired.
Being fired as a HC after one season hurts one’s resume for future HC jobs
 

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An NFL investigation into the Cardinals will hardly uncover racist hiring/firing practices. They have always been know to be progressive...They may be historically cheap, but not racist or sexist.

Regardless of the results of the Suns investigation, the Suns and NBA has been far more progressive than the NFL.
 

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On whether the decision to fire McCoy was made in conjunction with general manager Steve Keim
Wilks: “It was my decision.”

On whether the decision to fire McCoy was made in conjunction with general manager Steve Keim
Wilks: “It was my decision.”
Did you actually read that article?

“It may have been Wilks who told McCoy he was being let go but there’s no way he did so without Keim’s approval. Just five hours before Wilks’ news conference, Keim said on his weekly radio interview with Arizona Sports 98.7 FM that he was going to “come out swinging.”

This was an organizational decision.”
 

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Agreed, which is why the Cardinals' history of being progressive is what would be highlighted by an NFL investigation.

I wouldn't mind for some light to be shined on the Arizona Cardinals organization no matter the reason.

Especially I'd like some insight into the decision to extend Keim and Kingsbury.
 

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Did you actually read that article?

“It may have been Wilks who told McCoy he was being let go but there’s no way he did so without Keim’s approval. Just five hours before Wilks’ news conference, Keim said on his weekly radio interview with Arizona Sports 98.7 FM that he was going to “come out swinging.”

This was an organizational decision.”
Yeah he obviously got his bosses approval to fire an employee.
 

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Would Wilks have won 5 games in 2019 with Kyler? Possbily.

As I've said before maybe Rosen really was one of the worst QBs ever.

I still would have fired Wilks though. And Keim.
I think the Keim issue is the biggest problem. As the lawsuit eludes to, Keim should have been fired as well. Especially with the DUI. Wilks was horrible and definitely deserved to be be fired but Keim should have been shown the door also. That’s what gives this lawsuit legs. They extended the white guy and fired the black guy. Even thought Keim had worse transgressions.
 

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I wouldn't mind for some light to be shined on the Arizona Cardinals organization no matter the reason.

Especially I'd like some insight into the decision to extend Keim and Kingsbury.
I think the Keim issue is the biggest problem. As the lawsuit eludes to, Keim should have been fired as well. Especially with the DUI. Wilks was horrible and definitely deserved to be be fired but Keim should have been shown the door also. That’s what gives this lawsuit legs. They extended the white guy and fired the black guy. Even thought Keim had worse transgressions.

Also in terms of optics, they basically allowed for Kingsbury to learn on the job that first year. In terms of their case they can point to Keim's weekly interviews about Kliff learning on the job. He didn't earn the right to learn to be an NFL Head Coach, let alone an NFL coach. We were bargaining against the dumpster fire that is the New York Jets (Man that Burkhardt guy is good at his job)

Obviously, Kliff has gotten better and better. He's better than Wilks and proved to be the correct choice/move.

However, in a quick summary of:

Multiple DUI GM, career loser in college HC both get to use #1 draft pick to change franchise. Multiple late-season collapses and yet are extended for 5 years.

There's way more good than bad in the past few years. However, they can spin it very negatively. Because somehow Keim has survived everything.
 

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Also in terms of optics, they basically allowed for Kingsbury to learn on the job that first year. In terms of their case they can point to Keim's weekly interviews about Kliff learning on the job. He didn't earn the right to learn to be an NFL Head Coach, let alone an NFL coach. We were bargaining against the dumpster fire that is the New York Jets (Man that Burkhardt guy is good at his job)

Obviously, Kliff has gotten better and better. He's better than Wilks and proved to be the correct choice/move.

However, in a quick summary of:

Multiple DUI GM, career loser in college HC both get to use #1 draft pick to change franchise. Multiple late-season collapses and yet are extended for 5 years.

There's way more good than bad in the past few years. However, they can spin it very negatively. Because somehow Keim has survived everything.
Whoa there! It's far from "proven" that Kliff was the correct choice or move. Wilks had to go, yes, but we didn't HAVE to get Kliff.
 

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Also in terms of optics, they basically allowed for Kingsbury to learn on the job that first year. In terms of their case they can point to Keim's weekly interviews about Kliff learning on the job. He didn't earn the right to learn to be an NFL Head Coach, let alone an NFL coach. We were bargaining against the dumpster fire that is the New York Jets (Man that Burkhardt guy is good at his job)

Obviously, Kliff has gotten better and better. He's better than Wilks and proved to be the correct choice/move.

However, in a quick summary of:

Multiple DUI GM, career loser in college HC both get to use #1 draft pick to change franchise. Multiple late-season collapses and yet are extended for 5 years.

There's way more good than bad in the past few years. However, they can spin it very negatively. Because somehow Keim has survived everything.
Not only survived but when you get a five year extension, you could argue he’s thriving despite a lot of negatives and literally no postseason success since 6 years ago and only 3 playoff appearances in 9 years.
 

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Whoa there! It's far from "proven" that Kliff was the correct choice or move. Wilks had to go, yes, but we didn't HAVE to get Kliff.
You're correct. Just saying Kliff > Wilks was the correct choice. However, yes its possible there was another way to do it or potentially someone else better for the job afterwards.

In many ways, Kliff's newness to the NFL allowed for a grace period for Keim. Even though Keim's drafts haven't exactly supported Kliff as much as they should have.
 

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The firing of Wilks had nothing to do with the color of his skin. The idiotic move to extend Keim has nothing to do with the color of one's skin, or the hiring of Kingsbury, or Vance Joseph, or the drafting of Kyler Murray... you can't sue one for mediocrity or rather ineptitude in sports, if so, all of us Cardinal fans would be filing a lawsuit
 
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