Stunning digs may not help sell Cardinals

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Paola Boivin
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Nov. 1, 2005 12:00 AM



I'm standing inside the Cardinals' new stadium, impressed beyond words, and then Michael Bidwill goes and ruins my optimism with a completely innocent statement.

"We wanted to give you a chance to see what our fans will see next season," he said.



What, I think privately, emptiness?

Bad me. The new facility, which opens in nine months, is jaw dropping. It's fan friendly and state of the art in a have-to-see-it way. That this tour comes on the heels of a dismal 34-13 loss Sunday to Dallas spins a story that could be about this stadium's brilliance into one that wonders whether this stadium's brilliance is enough to overcome the team's on-the-field futility.

"No one wants us to win more than me," Bidwill said quietly.

I believe him. Bidwill's hard-nosed business ways are well chronicled. Less known is that he is consumed by a desire to enhance his father's legacy. This stadium is a step in the right direction.

Its contemporary design by New York's Peter Eisenman is a welcome architectural departure from the retro trend that delivered marvels such as Baltimore's new Camden Yards but grew stale at Cincinnati's Great American Ball Park. The Cardinals' facility may not have the attention of sports fans yet, but discussion of its uniqueness is raging in architectural circles.

Its interior offers wide concourses and great sight lines. Fans who take advantage of concessions will still be able see and hear action on the field because of open backdrops. The stadium lofts - the term "suites" is so passé - will offer multiple flat-screen TVs, swivel seats and great views.

Is it enough? Does anyone go to the theater to see a bad movie just because the seats are comfortable?

It's difficult to gauge the potential of a stadium's pull because of the lack of precedent. This kind of futility, followed by this kind of construction, is unparalleled.

Bidwill spoke many times Monday about the Cardinals' "DNA." The team's colors can be found throughout the stadium, but it's more than that. It's about a brand. It's about a team's identity. The Cardinals hope the facility not only lures fans but also gives the organization a new vibe, like putting on a suit and feeling better about one's self.

These are our locker rooms.

This is our field.

This is our stadium.

A stadium in climate-controlled environment, by the way. That will help. I've sat through a sub-zero game at the old Lambeau Field in Green Bay and a 100-plus-degree game at Sun Devil Stadium.

Not even close. I'd take sub-zero any day.

With the right clothing, anyone can protect himself from cold temperatures. Cooling fans, water and cotton shirts will offer limited relief under a 2 p.m. sun.

"It became challenging," Bidwill said. "At the same time our product on the field wasn't good, new facilities were opening around the Valley that were truly first class. America West Arena. Bank One Ballpark (now Chase Field). The new hockey arena in Glendale. I think that's what people became used to. That's why this became important.

"Does that mean we're not equally committed to improving the product on the field? No, we're equally committed to that, focused on that. Obviously, we are disappointed at how things have started out this season."

Two wins and five losses is a crummy way to start a season that was supposed to inspire ticket sales for next year. The Cardinals will need to use the stadium as a selling point, because Dennis Green and Co. have done nothing to suggest this team is any different from the "same old Cardinals."

It's hard to imagine that will be enough.



Reach Boivin at paola.boivin@arizona- republic.com or (602) 444-8956.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/1101boivin1101.html
 

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Anyone with half a brain knows that only winning will bring in the fans. I don't ever remember anyone suggesting otherwise. Lame.
 

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I've a feeling

the first year there, especially the first 4-5 games will be crowds of 60,000 plus. Just for the novelty. The cowboys new field will be close to an exact replica in many ways. People will come, the high rollers on down to the working stiff that has to save two weeks to buy tickets for him and his boy.
This stadium will be one that there will truly be NO SUCH THING as a bad seat.
As for the writer, she hasn't been in the good graces of Mr B or Cards fans for a long time. This was Michael move. And, once again, the hack blows a golden oppotunity to put a very positive spin on the article. Which, a little foresight would say, could give her an in later on.
Ah well, live and not learn is a good motto eh?
 

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Surprise!! What else did you expect? The Republic writers can't write about the Cardinals without including references to their inability to turn it around on the field. It's almost like they're not sure most of the Valley doesn't think they suck.

The truth is most think they suck. I agree that she should have just focused on the nice stadium. We all know the team has problems on the field.
 

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I wish I had room on my "Bickley Sucks" hat for Ms. Boivin as well. Oh well.........Bickley is the bigger villian.
 

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It may not help sell season tickets but the big money stuff will bring in a lot more money then SDS. The suites will be sold out without a doubt(huge $$$$$), naming rights, parking, consessions, ect.
 

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joeshmo said:
It may not help sell season tickets but the big money stuff will bring in a lot more money then SDS. The suites will be sold out without a doubt(huge $$$$$), naming rights, parking, consessions, ect.

Does this mean we will spend our CAP money next year??? I sure hope so.
 

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john h said:
Does this mean we will spend our CAP money next year??? I sure hope so.

Why spend more money when you can suck and still increase your revenue?

:sigh:
 

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john h said:
Does this mean we will spend our CAP money next year??? I sure hope so.

It has nothing to do with spending cap money and everything to do with having the revenue streams to pay out bigger signing bonuses. We can still have 5 mill left in cap space going into next years regular season but have much better players and depth, paying the same total amount in contracts but paying what players really looking for when signing with a team, upfront gaurnteed money - signing bonuses. Plus more money for coaching, facilities, ect.
 

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Republic opinion writers are notoriously negative, not only about the Cardinals but about everything. So Paula you may be right, the new digs might not be enough to woo the casual. But if you listened to anything other than you own mouth flapping you would have heard...

....."We wanted to give you a chance to see what our fans will see next season," he said.....

He was showing you, quite a gracious move if you ask me, what the FANS will have and Paula, my little negative bobblehead doll, WE will be there.

When will these writers learn that nothing they write makes a fan and nothing they write deters a fan?
 

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