Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

Shane Young

@YoungNBA
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I have some Suns words coming today. But my favorite stat so far:Kevin Durant is 31/37 in the restricted area and 61/93 in the paint overall. Enjoy your day!

 

[Ronin]

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Gerald Bourguet

@GeraldBourguet
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Ryan Dunn (6.2 PPG, 2.6 RPG, 0.6 BPG, 18.2 MPG, 41.1 FG%, 31.4 3P%) was nominated for Western Conference Rookie of the month for October/November.Grizzlies rookie Jaylen Wells (12.2 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 1.9 APG, 45.4 FG%, 39.4 3P%) won it

 

[Ronin]

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Suns Are Better

@SunsAreBetter


Last season, it seemed like we learned Book may not be built to be a PG, but now it looks like it just prepared him to take the leap.Devin Booker (averaging 6.6 AST) has an AST:TOV of 3.2, which leads all SGs this season.(Even with Tyus Jones beside him) Point Book is here.

 

[JosiahLee]

Do the Suns really not own a 1st or 2nd rd draft pick until 2031?

 

[Mainstreet]

Do the Suns really not own a 1st or 2nd rd draft pick until 2031?

It looks like the Suns own Denver's 2026 2nd round draft pick, besides the picks available in 2031. See below.

Phoenix Suns - Future Draft Picks | Fanspo

Phoenix Suns future incoming and outgoing draft picks.

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[Raindog]

It looks like the Suns own Denver's 2026 2nd round draft pick, besides the picks available in 2031. See below.

Phoenix Suns - Future Draft Picks | Fanspo

Phoenix Suns future incoming and outgoing draft picks.

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Geez, there's likely a better than 10% to 20% chance I'll be dead before the Suns pick in the first round of the draft again.

 

[Mainstreet]

Geez, there's likely a better than 10% to 20% chance I'll be dead before the Suns pick in the first round of the draft again.

I'm guessing my percentages make yours look good.

 

[Hoop Head]

Suns Are Better
@SunsAreBetter


Last season, it seemed like we learned Book may not be built to be a PG, but now it looks like it just prepared him to take the leap.Devin Booker (averaging 6.6 AST) has an AST:TOV of 3.2, which leads all SGs this season.(Even with Tyus Jones beside him) Point Book is here.

I was afraid this idea would gain ground when his assist to turnover ratio was discussed recently. Booker is not a PG. He's an excellent SG, let him be an excellent SG. Trying to force him into a full time PG role is a recipe for mediocrity.

 

[SirStefan32]

Do the Suns really not own a 1st or 2nd rd draft pick until 2031?

We can all pretend we drafted Bender, Chriss, Jackson, etc every year until 2031.

 

[Germz249]

We can all pretend we drafted Bender, Chriss, Jackson, etc every year until 2031.

Lol I was so excited for those picks.

I remember I couldn’t decided between Chriss and Bender but got excited we got both.

Then Jackson was suppose to go before Tatum. I thought the Celtics for sure were going with Jackson but he didn’t want to meet with them. Thought we had a steal.

sigh..

 

[Hoop Head]

Lol I was so excited for those picks.

I remember I couldn’t decided between Chriss and Bender but got excited we got both.

Then Jackson was suppose to go before Tatum. I thought the Celtics for sure were going with Jackson but he didn’t want to meet with them. Thought we had a steal.

sigh..

I didn't like Chriss. I thought Bender had potential but was 2-3 years from showing that regularly. I was a bit dumbfounded when we started Chriss his rookie season when there's zero chance he earned it. That seemed to cause issues later when we wanted to bring him off the bench. The entitlement was already entrenched in his character.

Bender never showed more than a basic understanding of basketball. He excelled at absolutely nothing and I can't even think of anything he was capable of doing even above average. He would probably dominate a pick up game at a gym based on his physical traits but that's his ceiling. Against any one who is 6'6" or taller that understands the fundamentals of basketball would be able to neutralize him. I will give credit to Bender's agent/manager. They earned every penny they got.

Josh Jackson still stings. I was aboard that hype train. He had some character issues to overlook but based on his potentials, they weren't that damning. He was supposed to be a combo of can't miss prospect and unrecognized athletic potential. When he was on, and he was a few times, you could see why he was a highly touted prospect. He was quite literally going to Booker's Pippen and when he had it going it looked like he would be. When he didn't have it going though he was almost invisible. He was invisible a lot. He had all the tools except a brain.

We actually did draft somewhat smart when we were in the middle of the round. As much as I've grown to dislike the Morrii, Markieff was a good pick, TJ Warren was also a good pick, and Booker was a franchise defining pick. All of those made in the teens. I blame drafting for need over BPA being our issue. We were devoid of talent so we didn't worry about grabbing multiple guys at one position before. Once we tried filling holes, we struck out more and more expectations were put on the draftees.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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loving this kid more and more - we don't need a scorer we need speed and defense

 

[AzStevenCal]

Lol I was so excited for those picks.

I remember I couldn’t decided between Chriss and Bender but got excited we got both.

Then Jackson was suppose to go before Tatum. I thought the Celtics for sure were going with Jackson but he didn’t want to meet with them. Thought we had a steal.

sigh..

Like all of us, I've missed on my share of prospects through the years but I was adamantly opposed to drafting Chriss and Jackson. I didn't like Jackson's off court behavior and never really saw anything great about his college game other than his effort. He showed me a little in summer ball after we drafted him so I could finally see why we took him but I still wanted Tatum (even though I tend to downgrade any Duke player).

Chriss was a mess, anyone that actually watched him play entire games knew that. Clearly, we scouted him solely by his impressive highlight reels and ignored the huge warning signs that appeared in every game I saw him play. Bender was the worst pick of the bunch but I bought into the front offense nonsense only to discover (after the draft) that we never really got to see him play. That's three ridiculous and unjustifiable draft decisions in a very short period of time. And keep in mind, it's even worse than that because we had to trade away additional value in order to draft Chriss in the first place.

I explained away or excused away a lot of drafting mistakes during the Sarver era because of our interfering owner and because every team screws up a pick now and then. Plus, I really thought that McD was a front office savant after he practically robbed the Clippers blind to get us a young combo guard with off the chart athleticism. But after awhile it became apparent even to us Bledsoe fans that he wasn't as good as his physical talent suggested, so even that move turned out to be no better than neutral. So all told I'd say the Sarver was maybe the second worst owner in the league at the time but McD was at the absolute top of the horrible GM list.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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[GatorAZ]

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Isaiah Stewart come on down. @Mainstreet

 

[Ronin]

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Gerald Bourguet

@GeraldBourguet
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3s

Kevin Durant missing another week hurts, but if it had to happen, at least it happened at a good time. I wrote about what the Suns had to say about weathering this latest injury, and how their schedule for the next week will help: https://bit.ly/3VlwBTo

 

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Kellan Olson

@KellanOlson
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3m

Suns have three games the rest of the week but then don't play next week until Friday.Like Durant's calf strain, a good break in the timing of the schedule.

 

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Gerald Bourguet

@GeraldBourguet
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Just as a heads up: Missing out on the NBA Cup doesn't really mean the Suns get to "rest up" next week. They'll still have 2 makeup games scheduled for next week, as will every other team that missed out on the tournament