Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Proximo]

Good news. Butler just got suspended indefinetley for walking out of the walk through when he was informed he wouldn't be the starter.

The odds of the Heat trading him before the deadline just went way down, because now they don't have to pay him.

 

[Ronin]

Suns Named Fit for Two Trade Deadline Players

The NBA's Feb. 6 trade deadline is rapidly approaching, and all eyes are on the Phoenix Suns to see how they'll shake up their roster in hopes of capturing that coveted first franchise championship. Jan 25, 2025; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bulls guard Zach LaVine (8) dunks the ball against...

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[Yuma]

Knicks Could Trade For Suns Center

The New York Knicks are looking for a center ahead of the trade deadline, and the Phoenix Suns could be a partner for them before Feb. 6. One of the league's mo

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I would think that counts us out. We are looking for a center, too!

 

[Yuma]

Ah... If it's possible, I'd like to see the Suns add Giannis, Wemby, and Steph Curry to our roster without giving up any assets other than Beal and Nurkic.

We should get several first rounders back for taking on their salaries.

 

[BirdGangThing]

I TOLD YOU HE WAS NURK CROWDER

 

[BirdGangThing]

did beal take it better than nurk did? like more maturely? or is beal more comfortable knowing he has all the cards and $50+ a year regardless?

cuz with nurk it's different - losing the starting gig here likely means losing starting gigs period - à la jae crowder

that's got to be harder to deal with - especially after nurk's extension - but you can't sit home and pout it out or blame it on bud - who was 100% right for making the change(s)

 

[Proximo]

Gambo said the Suns are looking at 20 different trades.

I don't know what that means, I think it means the Suns have proposed that many, but nobody is interested.

 

[GatorAZ]

Bradley Beal not interested in joining Bulls: Source

Phoenix Suns guard Bradley Beal will not waive his no-trade clause to go to the Chicago Bulls, a source familiar with the three-time All-Star’s thinking told The Athletic. The Bulls had been mentioned as one team the Suns could use to facilitate a hypothetical trade for Miami Heat star Jimmy...

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[Mainstreet]

Gambo said the Suns are looking at 20 different trades.

I don't know what that means, I think it means the Suns have proposed that many, but nobody is interested.

I hope the Suns are looking at different trades other than Butler.

Also, they now have three first round draft picks to work with, not that I want them to use them all.

Replacing Nurkic on the roster and depth upfront would seem like an easier lift.

 

[jf-08]

I'm out of the loop on Nurkic. What the hell happened to him?

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm out of the loop on Nurkic. What the hell happened to him?

Bud and Nurkic are not talking. It's gone on for a while.

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[jf-08]

Bud and Nurkic are not talking. It's gone on for a while.

What was the cause of the rift?

 

[Mainstreet]

What was the cause of the rift?

I can only guess it related to Bud removing Nurkic as a starter.

 

[jf-08]

I can only guess it related to Bud removing Nurkic as a starter.

Thanks.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

IDK, I worked at a military base and this doesn't sound that far fetched. Hardly any of the soldiers ever talk to the base commander. They have their own supervisors (in this case assistant coaches) that train them and tell them their role in the mission of their unit. I know civilians work at regular jobs and have at least met the boss in smaller companies. I worked for some large corporations and never met the real boss. Even bosses just a couple layers up even. It's not that weird when you really think about it. Some of those corporations I could say the same thing as Nurkic. I know they may not be buddies, but I am willing to bet Bud has met every player in that locker room. Does he have to interact with them every single day. Probably not. Look at all the travel they do, coaches studying game films, etc. They say it's hard to get a regular practice in. I could see in the course of a season where the head coach might not talk to a guy for a month or two, especially if they have been out with an injury and are in with the training staff each day.

How many players are on a basketball team? How many that see regular court time? To not have any interaction with your coach for a couple months is absolutely absurd. As someone who has coached a lot of teams I can’t fathom not speaking to any individual player for two months. And as pros they’re together like 5-6 days a week and traveling together. It’s just nuts.

 

[Phrazbit]

How many players are on a basketball team? How many that see regular court time? To not have any interaction with your coach for a couple months is absolutely absurd. As someone who has coached a lot of teams I can’t fathom not speaking to any individual player for two months. And as pros they’re together like 5-6 days a week and traveling together. It’s just nuts.

I feel like that HAS to be an exaggeration, like there is no way that the team doesn't watch film and practice with the coach trying to correct players.

Maybe they have not spoken one on one?

Regardless though, Nurkic has been absolutely awful, he needed to be benched. He's never been a "plus" player but between our attempt to change our scheme or his weight loss or just time, he's been unplayable.

But, IMO, if you change a players role, you should talk to them.

 

[Hoop Head]

I feel like that HAS to be an exaggeration, like there is no way that the team doesn't watch film and practice with the coach trying to correct players.

Maybe they have not spoken one on one?

Regardless though, Nurkic has been absolutely awful, he needed to be benched. He's never been a "plus" player but between our attempt to change our scheme or his weight loss or just time, he's been unplayable.

But, IMO, if you change a players role, you should talk to them.

I feel like it's one on one and has been this whole time. Of course we don't know for certain but we also don't know Nurkic meant it to the degree it's been taken. Anyone who has played team sports or coached team sports knows that it's virtually impossible for it to be so extreme that they haven't spoken at all in over 2 months because there have been practices and film sessions. Unless we also want to take it to the extreme that either Nurkic and Bud haven't participated together in the same sessions, which is absolutely bananas.

 

[Covert Rain]

How many players are on a basketball team? How many that see regular court time? To not have any interaction with your coach for a couple months is absolutely absurd. As someone who has coached a lot of teams I can’t fathom not speaking to any individual player for two months. And as pros they’re together like 5-6 days a week and traveling together. It’s just nuts.

This. It's absolutely absurd. Oh, and if you listen to the interview about it, he said there was "communication" but that could simply be notifying him your getting benched. Communication is a broad term. There is a difference between "communication" and having conversations with your players. We will never know the all the background details. It's possible Nurk was a big part of the lack of communication but I hate hearing crap like this. It's never good for the team.

 

[BirdGangThing]

are we watchable again?

 

[Proximo]

Bradley Beal not interested in joining Bulls: Source

Phoenix Suns guard Bradley Beal will not waive his no-trade clause to go to the Chicago Bulls, a source familiar with the three-time All-Star’s thinking told The Athletic. The Bulls had been mentioned as one team the Suns could use to facilitate a hypothetical trade for Miami Heat star Jimmy...

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Good. Anything that will stop trading for Butler.

 

[Proximo]

are we watchable again?

Eh. Barely.

Team played better last night, but still played stupid. Until the team stops trying to beat itself it's really hard to have confidence they could beat anyone in a playoff series.

 

[Covert Rain]

Good. Anything that will stop trading for Butler.

Maybe not. Evidently, reports say Miami has come way down on their asking price for Butler which will make it easier for a multi-team trade scenario. Evidently, Miami is very active in trying to move him now.

 

[Proximo]

I feel like that HAS to be an exaggeration, like there is no way that the team doesn't watch film and practice with the coach trying to correct players.

Maybe they have not spoken one on one?

Regardless though, Nurkic has been absolutely awful, he needed to be benched. He's never been a "plus" player but between our attempt to change our scheme or his weight loss or just time, he's been unplayable.

But, IMO, if you change a players role, you should talk to them.

Why do you think it is an exaggeration - there is like 20 assistants - direct communication can easily be avoided.

 

[Ronin]

NBA Intel: Jimmy Butler, Bradley Beal, Jusuf Nurkic trade talks; Pistons, Raptors, Nuggets, Clippers, Knicks

The latest intel on Bradley Beal’s future involving Jimmy Butler trade talks, a Jusuf Nurkic update, notes on several Raptors drawing trade interest, potential moves for the Clippers, and interview…

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[SirStefan32]

are we watchable again?

Significantly better. They had about 40 minutes of good basketball last night. Some of the third quarter was a bit rough, and they had some stupid turnovers. I remember them throwing the ball away three times in a row. KD and Beal really try some weird passes. Other than that, the offense was moving really well, and the even played some good defense at times.