Phrazbit
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I’m not saying it’s his fault, but being so glib about the situation given what is happening with the team and him in particular is a terrible look.
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I’m not saying it’s his fault, but being so glib about the situation given what is happening with the team and him in particular is a terrible look.
If Beal has such a low value then do not trade him.
Get good return on Durant and maybe Booker, get young athletic and hungry guys on the team, and give Beal the green light, but let guys like Gillespie run the team. Do not put in a system where it is get the ball to Beal and clear out
Get good return on Durant and maybe Booker, get young athletic and hungry guys on the team, and give Beal the green light, but let guys like Gillespie run the team. Do not put in a system where it is get the ball to Beal and clear out
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I'm completely sold on trading Durant, Booker and any other veteran that returns value - even if that value is just cap space as long as we don't give up future assets to make it happen. Going forward, if we can keep Beal upright, give him every opportunity to look like a superstar so that we can then get value in return for him. But more likely, he'll be out so much that we will just be raiding the G League for players until we restock with youth and picks and we'll just have to live with him.If Beal has such a low value then do not trade him.
Get good return on Durant and maybe Booker, get young athletic and hungry guys on the team, and give Beal the green light, but let guys like Gillespie run the team. Do not put in a system where it is get the ball to Beal and clear out
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Yuma
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Ishbia has shown he will spend money. At some point, the amount of money on luxury tax and second apron spending, it may sound stupid, but it might actually save Ishbia money just buying Beal out. I don't know the math on this, but I see how some of the lower salaries we get rid of save way more money than the salary. Maybe that is his last year, or the last half season of his stay here. Heck, one way to get him to waive his NTC may be just going Jae Crowder on him. Just say, we are good, just stay home. He would miss a good chunk of those games anyway. LOL!
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Seems like he spends money like, uh, good comparison? Ah, Jerry Jones!
BirdGangThing
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one thing i will say - one thing i was worried about - is that bud isn't shaking dunn's confidence or oso's far as i can tell - i actually think the random benchings bother the vets more than the rookies
dunn and oso are as confident as ever - saw it last night - they're ready too - both are still green but both are waiting for the moment
well there was one spot last night - oso rebounds and takes it up court - only kd was on the break with him - looked like oso could've gone coast to coast - he was taller than the defender and the defender was backpedaling - all oso had to do was rise and posterize but instead he passed to kd
dunn would've dunked it - he's already that familiar and comfortable - "college" oso would've dunked it too but not the inexperienced "nba" oso and i squarely blame bud for this
especially after bud kicked nurk to the curb - he could started molding and building oso for the late season run but nah - bud also could've continued to start dunn and have him build chemistry with the big 3 for the late season run but nah
not only has bud failed to find line ups and stick with them - he's completely dropped the ball by completely dropping players - starters one day zero minutes the next - bol bol being the latest - bol bol didn't change - he improved but nobody gonna change over night
nobody's good enough for bud - he doesn't put them on the back burner either he sticks them in the fridge but expects them all to be hot a moment's notice - yeah that's part of the game but come on - you gotta admit part of our problems start with bud's power trip
anyways - play the youngins got dammit - they're proving themselves to be the spark we've lacked all year - gillespie too
when (not if) your vets struggle on offense believe in the future - when your defense is getting throttled - let the children lead the way - show them all the beauty they possess inside
bud has shown to be a player hater - and not a player developer - i realize we're going thru a ish ton of coaches but funk ish - he's the one who got us into this mess - he can blame JJ all he wants but we all know who had the nuclear football
if it doesn't mess with our apron or effect our acquisition abilities - i don't care if ish has to pay 87 coaches - he can afford it
dunn and oso are as confident as ever - saw it last night - they're ready too - both are still green but both are waiting for the moment
well there was one spot last night - oso rebounds and takes it up court - only kd was on the break with him - looked like oso could've gone coast to coast - he was taller than the defender and the defender was backpedaling - all oso had to do was rise and posterize but instead he passed to kd
dunn would've dunked it - he's already that familiar and comfortable - "college" oso would've dunked it too but not the inexperienced "nba" oso and i squarely blame bud for this
especially after bud kicked nurk to the curb - he could started molding and building oso for the late season run but nah - bud also could've continued to start dunn and have him build chemistry with the big 3 for the late season run but nah
not only has bud failed to find line ups and stick with them - he's completely dropped the ball by completely dropping players - starters one day zero minutes the next - bol bol being the latest - bol bol didn't change - he improved but nobody gonna change over night
nobody's good enough for bud - he doesn't put them on the back burner either he sticks them in the fridge but expects them all to be hot a moment's notice - yeah that's part of the game but come on - you gotta admit part of our problems start with bud's power trip
anyways - play the youngins got dammit - they're proving themselves to be the spark we've lacked all year - gillespie too
when (not if) your vets struggle on offense believe in the future - when your defense is getting throttled - let the children lead the way - show them all the beauty they possess inside
bud has shown to be a player hater - and not a player developer - i realize we're going thru a ish ton of coaches but funk ish - he's the one who got us into this mess - he can blame JJ all he wants but we all know who had the nuclear football
if it doesn't mess with our apron or effect our acquisition abilities - i don't care if ish has to pay 87 coaches - he can afford it
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BirdGangThing
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another thing about dunn - oso - gillespie - they're actually afraid of making bone headed plays and stay way more aware (than our "all stars") of dangerous passes - the rookies don't just constantly casually accidentally pass it to the other team - they're more humble than that - and it's the only way i can explain book and kd being a-ok with all the careless turnovers they generate - turnovers that clearly effect the game and it's ultimate outcome
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