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How man my times is this team going to get punched in the dick at the buzzer?
 

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I was just happy to see TJ Warren get some minutes... I think he's gonna be a good one just needs to get some time on the floor.
 

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Warren was great. Not sure why coach didn't give him some more burn time.
 

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What I noticed last night was that when Dragic was pg trying to penetrate and create, the other four guys on the court were accustomed to standing around.

Did you guys notice the PNR with green and wright? Worked the first time but after that they just let Green shoot.
 

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Team has some curse on them in the last seconds. Plus, can't hold a huge lead. Not a good sign especially if they do make the playoffs. Need to blow teams out when they are up by a lot and find ways to put teams away in the closing seconds.
 
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Team has some curse on them in the last seconds. Plus, can't hold a huge lead. Not a good sign especially if they do make the playoffs. Need to blow teams out when they are up by a lot and find ways to put teams away in the closing seconds.

The Suns are really starting to mess with my sleep even more.
 

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The Suns are really starting to mess with my sleep even more.

Do you really care that much still?

I used to be like you earlier in the year maybe but now these losses are frustrating to me for maybe an hour or two after the loss but I don't care after that.

Maybe its because I've already given up on making playoffs that I feel differently.
 
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Do you really care that much still?

I used to be like you earlier in the year maybe but now these losses are frustrating to me for maybe an hour or two after the loss but I don't care after that.

Maybe its because I've already given up on making playoffs that I feel differently.

If I didn't have some emotional involvement with the Suns I would not be watching them. It's hard for me to turn it off like a light switch. The playoffs are not a big thing to me as the Suns would likely be swept in the first round if they made it. More important to me, I want to see the Suns build the roster that can contend in the future. I want to see the youngsters play and hopefully see a trade that can can improve the Suns down the road.
 

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Team has some curse on them in the last seconds. Plus, can't hold a huge lead. Not a good sign...
I hope the Suns Front Office and Coaching staff aren't blaming their consistent 4th quarter losses on voodoo. :)

Need to blow teams out when they are up by a lot and find ways to put teams away in the closing seconds.
They certainly do! That's what separates the men from the boys in the NBA. This season, are the Suns staffed and playing like men or boys?

The only curse on them is coming from the Front Office and Coaching staff. Or as the old saying goes, "We have met the enemy and they are us."
 

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If I didn't have some emotional involvement with the Suns I would not be watching them. It's hard for me to turn it off like a light switch. The playoffs are not a big thing to me as the Suns would likely be swept in the first round if they made it. More important to me, I want to see the Suns build the roster that can contend in the future. I want to see the youngsters play and hopefully see a trade that can can improve the Suns down the road.

My guess is that won't happen til the Suns are mathematically eliminated.

It means we should hope for the Suns to lose so that they feel the pressure from the media and fans to play the young guys.
 

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@Mainstreet I guess I can be glad the games are usually at 3-4 am for me so they just ruin my days :D
 
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@Mainstreet I guess I can be glad the games are usually at 3-4 am for me so they just ruin my days :D

My compliments to you for being such a dedicated fan.
 

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Bledsoe and Len out and Markieff having the worst shooting game of his career and Goran still does not step up instead getting owned by McLemore at times.
Seeing that was just sad.

The team needed him to step up and be aggressive.

Goran seriously has an attitude problem. Instead of complaining in the media that the system is tough for him maybe he should acknowledge that he is struggling instead of searching for reasons elsewhere.
The difference between him and Thomas is that Thomas goes out there to prove himself and just plays and stays aggressive no matter what while Goran stands around, shoulders hanging, poor body language and simply disappears.
 
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Bledsoe out and Markieff having the worst shooting game of his career and Goran still does not step up. Seeing that was just sad.
The team needed him to step up and be aggressive.

I don't think he can. Without Frye he has to expend a lot of energy to create offense. I believe he's having trouble doing that every night because he's worn out. Sometimes he still has that spark and some nights he doesn't. When he can't penetrate he pulls the "I'm supposed to stand in the corner" routine and disappears from the offense. But to lay the Kings loss solely on him just isn't right. The twins have been so inconsistent of late and that game was perhaps Keef's worst since his rookie season.

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He certainly has a lot more trouble penetrating than IT or Bledsoe, which is reflected by his poor freethrow rate.

Still he is playing way too passive.

Hornacek certainly does not want him to play that way.
 
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Goran is playing too passive for my taste. It reminds of when the Suns traded Dragic and a protected first round pick... for who... Aaron Brooks. Really the Suns included a first round pick which is laughable.
 

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Goran is playing too passive for my taste. It reminds of when the Suns traded Dragic and a protected first round pick... for who... Aaron Brooks. Really the Suns included a first round pick which is laughable.

Broken record time (on my part) - Frye and year around play!!!

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To me his attitude towards the team has changed a lot since last year.

Last year he worked of his butt for the Suns to be rewarded with "demotion" in the year he gets to be a Free Agent ... well at least that is what it looks to me. Maybe it's all a clever plan to keep his value lower so they can afford to resign him.

You can't really say anything other than signing Zoran has been done to make him feel he is in the long term plans from the management.

IT irks me when I watch him play and when he scores. It's probably good for a shooter to be so full of himself. He and GG have the same personality. Goran and Bledsoe combined don't have the same confidence as IT does. Goran and Bledsoe are introverts while IT and GG have a completely extroverted personality.


I definitely don't see Goran having the same energy he had last year and I doubt the reason is tiredness. More like resentment of what this team has become on a subconscious level. I doubt he even realizes it ...
 

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@Mainstreet I just look at the scores in the morning and highlights and if I can get it a replay of the game ... I am not watching the games at 3-4 am ... I have a job and a life besides the Suns ...
 
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To me his attitude towards the team has changed a lot since last year.

Last year he worked of his butt for the Suns to be rewarded with "demotion" in the year he gets to be a Free Agent ... well at least that is what it looks to me. Maybe it's all a clever plan to keep his value lower so they can afford to resign him.

You can't really say anything other than signing Zoran has been done to make him feel he is in the long term plans from the management.

IT irks me when I watch him play and when he scores. It's probably good for a shooter to be so full of himself. He and GG have the same personality. Goran and Bledsoe combined don't have the same confidence as IT does. Goran and Bledsoe are introverts while IT and GG have a completely extroverted personality.


I definitely don't see Goran having the same energy he had last year and I doubt the reason is tiredness. More like resentment of what this team has become on a subconscious level. I doubt he even realizes it ...

I can't completely buy this is because this is a contract year for Goran and he can out of here after the season if he wants. If Goran was locked into a long term contract then it might make more sense. Goran needs to play hard for a new contract, if not, what does this say?
 

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