Suns at Wizards 1/26

[PDR]

wow a winning streak ...i forgot what its like....

 

[jagu]

Barbosa rocks. Amare is becoming the Amare we loved, albeit against a crappy team. I want to see these Suns players grow some man parts and start playing hard. They have the talent, its all in the head and heart.

 

[Andrew]

Am I the only one that got weird looks while watching this game? The audio was crappy so I decided to sing and dance, etc when things went well for this team, my room mate was not pleased and a bit weirded out...

 

[Brianellsworth]

Am I the only one that got weird looks while watching this game? The audio was crappy so I decided to sing and dance, etc when things went well for this team, my room mate was not pleased and a bit weirded out...

Sing and dance huh Andrew? You never cease to amaze me.

 

[Mainstreet]

i continue to be amazed at how well Shaq's playing.

Totally agree. The Suns should be playing much better they are. Actually they should be playing like a contender with Shaq playing this well.

 

[elindholm]

baylesstobudinger banned for one week. Bad call to start dropping fbombs all over a game thread the week of the super bowl.

Heh, with any luck, Stoudemire will be traded by then and we won't have to see bayless at all anymore. (That said, Stoudemire did play well today. If only he could do that anywhere near consistently ... but we know he can't.)

But I have to ask -- what does the Super Bowl have to do with the level of hostility permitted in the Suns forum? Is it just that the moderators are paying more attention than they ordinarily would? Good thing this isn't "mainly" a Cardinals board, the way some foolish souls have suggested in the past.

 

[Proteus]

Suns 56 points in the paint to the Wizards 28.

Suns were tied 51-51 after the 2nd quarter. Suns were up 75-73 after the 3rd quarter.

Suns had shot 40% with 3/8 3 pointers after the 2nd quarter, Wizards 40% with 3/6 3 pointers. Suns had shot 42% with 4/13 3 pointers after the 3rd quarter, Wizards 43% with 4/9 3 pointers.

Suns had committed 9 turnovers (Nash with 4) after the 2nd quarter, Wizards 7. Suns had committed 13 turnovers (Nash and Amare with 4) after the 3rd quarter, Wizards 10.

Suns had 8 offensive rebounds after the 2nd quarter, Wizards 4. Suns had 10 offensive rebounds after the 3rd quarter, Wizards 4.

Suns had hit 10/12 free throws after the 2nd quarter, Wizards hit 16/19 free throws. Suns had hit 17/19 free throws after the 3rd quarter, Wizards had hit 17/22 free throws.

 

[jagu]

Suns can dominate if Amare played hard and Shaq is this good. Amare should be on the opposite side of Shaq and just grab every board with his body, strength, and athleticism. It makes no sense really why he isn't a dominating rebounder. He's fast, big, and insanely talented.

 

[cly2tw]

Suns can dominate if Amare played hard and Shaq is this good. Amare should be on the opposite side of Shaq and just grab every board with his body, strength, and athleticism. It makes no sense really why he isn't a dominating rebounder. He's fast, big, and insanely talented.

Fundamentals! He could grab Marion's number of rebounds if just trying to outjump others. This way however he'd not box out and the team loses more rebounds. He has not mastered to time it well to both get the rebound and box out properly.

 

[Sovereignz]

That said, Stoudemire did play well today. If only he could do that anywhere near consistently ... but we know he can't.

He may not rebound all consistently, but outside of a horrible stretch lately, I don't know how you could say that based on what he's done here over the last 4 or 5 years compared to the inconsistency of guys like Barbosa, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Hill, Barnes, J-Rich, Q, etc. Unless you were only talking about rebounding, in which case I agree with you.

It's good to know that a couple of horrible weeks can erase 5 years of work for one guy, but a couple nice games against horrible teams can erase years of being consistently terrible in big games and against any team with a disciplined defense for another for some people. Wake me up when Barbosa doesn't go 1-7 against the Spurs, or New Orleans, or any good defensive team that matters.

 

[cly2tw]

He may not rebound all consistently, but outside of a horrible stretch lately, I don't know how you could say that based on what he's done here over the last 4 or 5 years compared to the inconsistency of guys like Barbosa, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Hill, Barnes, J-Rich, Q, etc. Unless you were only talking about rebounding, in which case I agree with you.

It's good to know that a couple of horrible weeks can erase 5 years of work for one guy, but a couple nice games against horrible teams can erase years of being consistently terrible in big games and against any team with a disciplined defense for another. Whatever though.

Bias is human.

 

[SirStefan32]

He may not rebound all consistently, but outside of a horrible stretch lately, I don't know how you could say that based on what he's done here over the last 4 or 5 years compared to the inconsistency of guys like Barbosa, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Hill, Barnes, J-Rich, Q, etc. Unless you were only talking about rebounding, in which case I agree with you.

It's good to know that a couple of horrible weeks can erase 5 years of work for one guy, but a couple nice games against horrible teams can erase years of being consistently terrible in big games and against any team with a disciplined defense for another for some people. Whatever though. Wake me up when Barbosa doesn't go 1-7 against the Spurs.

Come on man, it's not last couple of weeks. Amare's rebounding (and defense) has been an issue for years, and it's been a topic of discussion on this board for several years.

 

[Bufalay]

Totally agree. The Suns should be playing much better they are. Actually they should be playing like a contender with Shaq playing this well.

It is becoming apparent that Terry Porter sucks.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Heh, with any luck, Stoudemire will be traded by then and we won't have to see bayless at all anymore. (That said, Stoudemire did play well today. If only he could do that anywhere near consistently ... but we know he can't.)

But I have to ask -- what does the Super Bowl have to do with the level of hostility permitted in the Suns forum? Is it just that the moderators are paying more attention than they ordinarily would? Good thing this isn't "mainly" a Cardinals board, the way some foolish souls have suggested in the past.

It's not permitted. He got reported and I checked it out. I have seen him on the Cards board recently so I would assume he cares about the Super Bowl.

 

[Mainstreet]

He may not rebound all consistently, but outside of a horrible stretch lately, I don't know how you could say that based on what he's done here over the last 4 or 5 years compared to the inconsistency of guys like Barbosa, Marion, Diaw, Bell, Hill, Barnes, J-Rich, Q, etc. Unless you were only talking about rebounding, in which case I agree with you.

The players you mentioned above were never supposed to be the dominant big man or the franchise player. Amare was supposed to be that player. He had a good game tonight, however, he needs to compete with the big boys inside every game including rebounding.

 

[Sovereignz]

Come on man, it's not last couple of weeks. Amare's rebounding (and defense) has been an issue for years, and it's been a topic of discussion on this board for several years.

...

If you reread what I wrote, I acknowledged his inconsistency on the glass. However, the statement "we can't expect him to play well consistently", when for the last FIVE YEARS before this stretch of bad play you knew exactly what you were going to get from Amare every night, was my main point of contention.

 

[zod]

I hope Jrich gets out of his slump soon.

I would love to see more of this!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LY3E6tSDUg

 

[Sovereignz]

The players you mentioned above were never supposed to be the dominant big man or the franchise player. Amare was supposed to be that player. He had a good game tonight, however, he needs to compete with the big boys inside every game including rebounding.

I wasn't comparing their role on the team with his, I was just using them as a reference point to what an inconsistent player is.. Amare has been Mister Consistent over the last years for this team. You knew exactly what you were getting, INCLUDING THE FLAWS, YES, every night.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Heh, with any luck, Stoudemire will be traded by then and we won't have to see bayless at all anymore. (That said, Stoudemire did play well today. If only he could do that anywhere near consistently ... but we know he can't.)

But I have to ask -- what does the Super Bowl have to do with the level of hostility permitted in the Suns forum?

it doesn't. I'm pretty sure (actually, positive now that I just saw Sanders' response) that Chris meant that it was a dumb week to get banned because Bayless is a Cardinals fan also and for us dual-ers, this is the greatest week of all time and we're sharing every minute of it with each other so to drop f-bombs right now and be banned is very stupid because now he can't even post on the Cards board during the greatest week in it's history.

not everything's about you and your persecution complex E.

 

[AceP]

The players you mentioned above were never supposed to be the dominant big man or the franchise player. Amare was supposed to be that player. He had a good game tonight, however, he needs to compete with the big boys inside every game including rebounding.

No offense to Amare. He is quite consistant as a scorer, but when it comes to rebounding and defending, we all know how he is.

Amare wants to be the man, a true super-star, a franchise player. So he got to have a right understanding of standards. The is actually a very good sample right here in the team. Shaq played 11 games in Jan that's good for 7 double doubles. I hope Amare can do 8-9-10 night in and night out, not 15 for 1 game, 3 for another.

 

[Covert Rain]

The sad part is that as well as Amare played, you can bank on him dissappearing in the next few games. I will give credit where credit is due though. Shaq and Amare played great tonight.

 

[elindholm]

However, the statement "we can't expect him to play well consistently", when for the last FIVE YEARS before this stretch of bad play you knew exactly what you were going to get from Amare every night, was my main point of contention.

I should have been more specific. I meant his effort on the boards and, by his standards, respectable activity on defense, at least during the second half (which was all I could watch). We all know he can score 20 points in his sleep, so his "consistency" as a scorer is of no interest to me at all.

 

[Andrew]

"I feel like I can play three or four more years," O'Neal said. "I've got a new medical staff that does stuff that I haven't really had before. I'm moving left, I'm moving right, I'm running, I'm jumping, I'm dunking, I'm getting up and hanging on the rim and getting techs, and I haven't felt this good in about two years."


I just got a tingling feeling...

 

[Bufalay]

"I feel like I can play three or four more years," O'Neal said. "I've got a new medical staff that does stuff that I haven't really had before. I'm moving left, I'm moving right, I'm running, I'm jumping, I'm dunking, I'm getting up and hanging on the rim and getting techs, and I haven't felt this good in about two years."


I just got a tingling feeling...

You creep me out.

The fact that Shaq feels good and is hanging on the rim and "getting techs" is still pretty shocking to me.

 

[Andrew]

Do I care if I creep you out?