Suns Bench Trio vs Amare, Game 1 of 82

[Mainstreet]

Game 2: Warrick 18 pts, 11 rbs in 26.5 minutes

I think the Suns may have found their dive player going to the basket.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think the Suns may have found their dive player going to the basket.

Yes. I think Warrick should start over Turk

 

[joshstmarie]

He should fit in perfect in GS. He doesn't play any defense either.

Oh Daren. Stop. Just eat your crow.

 

[Superbone]

Game 2: Warrick 18 pts, 11 rbs in 26.5 minutes

I thought you're supposed to combine his stats with Hedo and JChill?

 

[Covert Rain]

Oh Daren. Stop. Just eat your crow.

What crow? When he does I will glady eat it. He now plays for a Golden State team that even has less emphasis then New York did on defense. I am completely confident my diet will be crow free this year.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hate to disappoint you, but we'd get clobbered all season on the boards with Amare as well. Probably not as bad, but clobbered nonetheless.

That is true.

 

[95pro]

i thought the OP was going to update this for every game, the trio vs amare.

 

[Griffin]

So, let's see, game 4:

Stoudemire with 14 points on 5-21 shooting, 8 rebounds, 8 turnovers, 6 fouls in 37 minutes
Warrick with 19 points on 7-9 shooting, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 4 fouls in 31 minutes off the bench

 

[AzStevenCal]

So, let's see, game 4:

Stoudemire with 14 points on 5-21 shooting, 8 rebounds, 8 turnovers, 6 fouls in 37 minutes
Warrick with 19 points on 7-9 shooting, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 4 fouls in 31 minutes off the bench

Amare is going to have an off night every now and then. We're looking at his worst game by far and comparing it to one of Warrick's better nights. Hakim will win that matchup occasionally but Amare will win the majority. It's a team game so maybe it's not very relevant but Amare did come out on top with one key statistic, his team won and Hakim's team lost.

Steve

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Amare has 25 TOs in 4 games - that's 6.25 per game. He also averages 7.8 rebounds per game.

Like I said, it's only 4 games, but I still think that at the end of the year, his ppg increases by 2-3 points (24ppg at the max), but his rpg stays the same (8.0 to 8.5). He is NOT a max player and I'm still happy he's gone....

 

[Bufalay]

Amare's ball-handling has always been pretty sloppy, but he looks worse right now than he did during his rookie year.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Amare had 19/4 with a +/- of -18 tonight.

It's still only 7 games into this season, but he's averaging less than 19.5ppg and about 8rpg.

When do we start hearing of buyer's remorse out of NY AND when does that tough NY media start to tear him apart?

 

[Folster]

Amare had 19/4 with a +/- of -18 tonight.

It's still only 7 games into this season, but he's averaging less than 19.5ppg and about 8rpg.

When do we start hearing of buyer's remorse out of NY AND when does that tough NY media start to tear him apart?

I think D'Antoni will get the heat from the fans and media first; although, I think they're convinced they'll get Anthony next year or earlier and that should placate them for a season. If Anthony ends up going to NJ then watch out.

 

[Covert Rain]

Amare had 19/4 with a +/- of -18 tonight.

It's still only 7 games into this season, but he's averaging less than 19.5ppg and about 8rpg.

When do we start hearing of buyer's remorse out of NY AND when does that tough NY media start to tear him apart?

They will probably go after D'Antoni first. They are what 3-4 now? If that team is .500 or worse in about 10 games I would suspsect the crap to start flying in NY.

 

[Bufalay]

They will probably go after D'Antoni first. They are what 3-4 now? If that team is .500 or worse in about 10 games I would suspsect the crap to start flying in NY.

.500 or worse? I'm pretty sure they'll be happy to be around .500. If they make the playoffs this year, I'm pretty sure most people here would consider the season a success.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Through 7 games Amare's FG% is 43.4%, which is more than 10 points lower than his career average. On the flipside, Warrick's FG% is nearly 13 points higher than his career average.

Amazing what a difference playing with a distributor like Nash can make.

 

[AsUdUdE]

You know STAT is scoring 19 PPG (just over 1 PPG per million in salary this year) but that is not the startling stat by a MILE...

He is shooting 43% for the year.. that was not a mistype, 43%.. when he was here with Nash, his lowest season FG% excluding his rookie year was 54%... Shooting 43% as the go-to guy is frightning for knicks fans, and add to it he is getting 7.6 RPG (a stat that I thought would imrove considerably has dropped) and TO, it is just not a good sign going forward...

As for the suns, Warrick is shooting 63%, and when you compare him with the rest of the league saying a minimum 80 shots on the year he only trails Al Horford (64%), and yet Warrick has taken a significant number of more shots (21).

I am not saying Warrick is better than STAT, or anything close, but Warrick/Turk/Childress are holding their own, and so far making the suns look like they made the right choice..

 

[Folster]

I am not saying Warrick is better than STAT, or anything close, but Warrick/Turk/Childress are holding their own, and so far making the suns look like they made the right choice..

I agree with you on Warrick and Childress, but there is no way that trading for Turkoglu can be considered the right choice from what we have seen so far. The same for signing Fye.

 

[AfroSuns]

Amare and Nash are both affected by the separation. Nash just had his 2nd double digits assist for the season, something that has probably not happened since his early years in the league.
The difference is that Nash is smart and will figure it out, Amare? he is not a smart fellow, nor is in a position to decide, i saw some knicks games and it is so obvious Fenton is no where close to the distributor that Nash is, it is like wasting Amare's talent, which is what i think when i see Nash and Rolo picknroll but in this case it is Nash's talent that is wasted.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I agree with you on Warrick and Childress, but there is no way that trading for Turkoglu can be considered the right choice from what we have seen so far. The same for signing Fye.

I have mixed feelings on signing Frye (or Fye for that matter). I think he's worth his money in the right situation but I'm not convinced he's in the right sitation. Put him next to a strong defender and I think he has huge value (if he ever regains his shot, that is) but expecting him to be a starting caliber or solid backup caliber center just isn't going to work, IMO.

Steve

 

[95pro]

there's no go to guy for the suns, so to me atleast, its seems like nash is trying to get his scoring going which takes him out of rythm, and he doesnt have finishers starting with him. there's a lack of pNr with nash and roLo. it seems only jrich will give nash an assist. hill can create his own mid-range jumper, rolo gets his by rebounds and putbacks, hedo...off and on but mostly off to start the season. so that's why nash's assists are down. there's a lot of switching going on, for example in the hawks game, nash was constantly going 1on1 with horford, all due to the lack of a finisher near the rim. but yes, nash will figure it out and we can see an increase in his assists. hopefully we see warrick starting over hedo.

oh, amare got moved to center for the knicks.

 

[jagu]

JRich is the go to guy.

 

[Ronin]

Tonight had Amare 33 and 10.....but David Lee had 28 and 10

 

[AfroSuns]

Tonight had Amare 33 and 10.....but David Lee had 28 and 10

What am wondering is why the heck didnt they keep Lee too, why let him go?

 

[Covert Rain]

What am wondering is why the heck didnt they keep Lee too, why let him go?

Wouldn't that be redundant? Two bigs that can score but play no defense? Basically they traded rebounding for more consistant scoring. D'Antoni loves to score. So, given the choice they chose the scoring. I didn't know what the New York salary cap situation was but I probably would have tried to do that too.

Keep Lee to give you some rebounding but run everything through Amare. Maybe they couldn't afford both.