Suns fire Jeff Hornacek

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Move the dead weight,,,

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I'm surprised that Markieff made it longer than Hornacek. When does Kieff get traded so Suns can finally move on? "


Bad attitude, inconsistent, and a trouble maker...... Kieff needs to go.

I don't believe it was all of Jeff's fault for the weak ensemble of players.
 

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"If something doesn't change quick, it could get really ugly, really fast," Suns forward P.J. Tucker told the Arizona Republic after last night's (sic) news.

Dragic and Thomas each burned us, on our home court no less, Marcus Morris bent us over as well, we lost to the lakers, got swept by Philly, scored the least amount of points in a half ever against the league's worst defensive team, knight - our star player we traded a valuable pick for - gets his own top 10 from espn for boneheaded plays (that's a first, afaict), Morris is somehow still here stinking up the joint, and when we finally look like we're truly awful and a top three pick is within our grasp, we fire the one guy who'd almost certainly guarantee it...

PJ - sorry pal but we passed really ugly a long, long time ago.

Right?!?!

Uglier than 14 losses in a row. PJ never was the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 

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They will go after Walton. Sarver has strong UofA ties. McD swings big. Its just what I expect, I do not know if I am happy about it.
 

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Article says that Sarver would like Steve Nash as HC.

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
Column: The Jeff Hornacek Era in Phoenix reached its inevitable conclusion. Could the @SteveNash Era soon begin? http://yhoo.it/1PPV8Ks
 

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Article says that Sarver would like Steve Nash as HC.

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
Column: The Jeff Hornacek Era in Phoenix reached its inevitable conclusion. Could the @SteveNash Era soon begin? http://yhoo.it/1PPV8Ks

I don't trust the opinion of any writer who omits Devin Booker when talking about the Suns young talent.

A Nash hiring would make the Suns interesting. He has no head coaching experience. While Nash is certainly smart enough to be a head coach, I never thought of him as having the personality for it. I could see him more as a GM (but that's a big question too).

OK. Want to be really optimistic. Maybe Sarver would be willing to make Nash an ownership partner.
 
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They will go after Walton. Sarver has strong UofA ties. McD swings big. Its just what I expect, I do not know if I am happy about it.

The Warriors could run the system themselves without a HC with the smart players they have. Walton was insignificant during his brief stint as a stand in HC.
 

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The Warriors could run the system themselves without a HC with the smart players they have. Walton was insignificant during his brief stint as a stand in HC.

In understand that, but he does understand the system and kept it going. I agree that he is young. His former teammates always thought he would be a much better head coach than player.

I am not campaigning for Walton, I am not sure I want him. But I can see the attraction.
 

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“They don’t run much of anything,” a scout told The Vertical recently. “It’s five guys, spread them out and try to beat you with basic stuff. It’s like watching an AAU game.”

Did not need a scout to tell me that.

Just had to look at the plays we ran after timeouts.
 

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Article says that Sarver would like Steve Nash as HC.

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
Column: The Jeff Hornacek Era in Phoenix reached its inevitable conclusion. Could the @SteveNash Era soon begin? http://yhoo.it/1PPV8Ks

Are you allowed to coach while laying on your back?

Doubt Nash is interested though, he seems to have a lot going on outside of basketball.
 

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I am just speculating here. If Sarver wants Nash, then this timing might make sense. I am sure Nash would want more of a role than just coach. He would want to be involved in player personnel desicions. I could see Nash getting a coach/GM role while McD gets bumped to a VP of player personnel and scouting or something. This timing would allow them to get things organized behind the scenes in advance of one the most important drafts in Suns history.

They would not want to be hiring a coach during draft week.
 

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No way they hire Nash as head coach. Maybe assistant but not as a head coach. He has no experience and just retired from the league.
 

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I don't really see any benefit for firing him now. I mean, any coach probably worth his salt is actively coaching on another team. Steve Nash? I don't know. It feels like more often than not great players don't translate into great coaches. Maybe Steve can coach but I would rather have a proven commodity.

Hope y'all ready to welcome a familiar face back at HC. Like it or not, which I do. Its going to happen. Saver and Nash spent a lot of time talking recently and both are friends of this person.

By the way, did I read this wrong? This seems to indicate it's someone Nash knows but not Nash himself. Everybody starting down the Nash path?
 
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No way they hire Nash as head coach. Maybe assistant but not as a head coach. He has no expand just retired from the league.

So had Jason Kidd.
Earl Watson has one year as an assistant in the d-league and a half year with the Suns.

Nash is 6 years older than Earl Watson and LuKe Walton.

He is only one year younger than Jason Kidd.

He has been the GM of Canada basketball since 2012.

I am not pushing for him, but it is not an unreasonable idea.
 

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I don't really see any benefit for firing him now. I mean, any coach probably worth his salt is actively coaching on another team. Steve Nash? I don't know. It feels like more often than not great players don't translate into great coaches. Maybe Steve can coach but I would rather have a proven commodity.

So, you would choose a proven commodity coach like Mark Jackson over a brand new coach, like Steve Kerr.

I am not interested in the multitude of retreads floating around the league. I want an energetic young coach with new ideas and personality the young players can relate to.
 

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So, you would choose a proven commodity coach like Mark Jackson over a brand new coach, like Steve Kerr.

I am not interested in the multitude of retreads floating around the league. I want an energetic young coach with new ideas and personality the young players can relate to.

I want someone with a good track record and a winning coach. I am not interested in potential guys without much of a track record. The Suns have played the potential game a ton and have come out on the short end plenty. That's not to say it has to be a HC. A long time assistant with a great track record will work to. I get what your saying about re-treads but many of those guys have spotty track records no?
 

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Is there any evidence that suggests that Steve Nash would make a good coach besides being a former great player?

Seems like a marketing ploy... Jason Kidd was not as good a player but I always could envision him as a coach before he retired.

I think the best job for Steve Nash would be president of basketball operations.

Coaches don't last more than 2-3 years typically. Eventually there will be the day that the Suns have to fire Nash.
 

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This is confusing. Wasn't Steve Nash pretty much the coach when D'Antoni was here? I'd like to know the reasons why he is NOT qualified to be a head coach. Not that I think he will, but he certainly has the pedigree.
 

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So had Jason Kidd.
Earl Watson has one year as an assistant in the d-league and a half year with the Suns.

Nash is 6 years older than Earl Watson and LuKe Walton.

He is only one year younger than Jason Kidd.

He has been the GM of Canada basketball since 2012.

I am not pushing for him, but it is not an unreasonable idea.

The reason I would not want Nash is if he doesn't fair well as a HC, then his playing days will be a little tarnished. Last guy I want to see fail at anyting
 

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So, you would choose a proven commodity coach like Mark Jackson over a brand new coach, like Steve Kerr.

I am not interested in the multitude of retreads floating around the league. I want an energetic young coach with new ideas and personality the young players can relate to.

You mean like we thought we had two short years ago? Have we forgotten that year already? Players loved Jeff and played hard for him. Fans loved Jeff. Too bad on the firing. McD should have been fired first, IMO. Or at least both at the same time.
 

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With all due respect to Hornacek, I thought he had just about perfected losing. I thought he was working with the Suns FO to make the most of the situation to get a better draft pick and reshuffle the deck. The Suns are going nowhere so there must be a reason the Suns are making the move now. My guess, it has something to do with hiring a new coach and the upcoming trade deadline. If the Suns wanted to compete this season the Suns should have fired Hornacek much earlier.

Perhaps the Suns have an opportunity to hire the coach they want right now?
 

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IMO, spot on article. Reality hurts sometimes.
the part about our lack of young talent and dig at Booker is complete horse****.
McD has drafted very well. Name a more exciting recent draftpick than Booker. in the West I see only Towns.
Booker may just be the next face of the franchise depending on the 2016 draft.

Also Chandlers contract is not a factor at all. it is like 12% of the salary cap. It would be extra capspace that we couldn't spend anyway.
The next two years every team will have capspace but the amount of FA will sray limited. You won't get FAs without overpaying.

Also giving Hornacek a pass shows the author is not following the Suns at all. Hornacek by all accounts was heavily involved in all roster decisions.
The lineups in particular 2 playmaker lineup idea was imo clearly his idea.
 
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I think he spun every single thing about this franchise as negatively as you could possibly spin it and he was wrong on many counts.

The dig on Booker was strange. Like it's the Suns fault assistant coaches around the league didn't name him to the Rising Stars game?
 

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