Suns @ Grizzlies 10-27-18

[HeHasRosen]

Rotations/substitutions/minutes...what gives and who decides these in game decisions?

My gosh they’re horrible. I’m okay (for now) with Anderson and Ariza starting, but how long they stay in is what I’m concerned about.

What’s with our transition defense too?


Asking these questions for a friend.

Great. We got the Steve Wilks of basketball coaches. Totally oblivious when it comes to in game situations and adjustments. It blows my mind

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Four straight 20+ point deficit games. A bit mind blowing.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Great. We got the Steve Wilks of basketball coaches. Totally oblivious when it comes to in game situations and adjustments. It blows my mind

I had not read your post before posting.

Phoenix Suns . . . mind blowing!

. . . in a bad way.

 

[GatorAZ]

The ankle is better huh?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Four straight 20+ point deficit games. A bit mind blowing.

Finally, a little consistency.

 

[Finito]

Four straight 20+ point deficit games. A bit mind blowing.

OKC, San Antonio and Toronto up next yikes

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

OKC, San Antonio and Toronto up next yikes

Not many teams I’m not saying “yikes” about at this point.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Seriously did Ariza play the entire 1st?

Did Warren finally enter the game in the 2nd?

We've been outscored by 51 points the last 3 games in the 2nd quarter, I hope that's not all on Warren

 

[95pro]

We've been outscored by 51 points the last 3 games in the 2nd quarter, I hope that's not all on Warren

I’m not sure what you’re saying but I didn’t blame Warren for the first if he didn’t even play the majority of it.
What I’m saying is that we need to get the starters out sooner than later. Insert Warren and Bridges a lot sooner.

We canT have JJ’s inconsistent decision making out there coupled with Anderson’s useless presence, as well as Ariza playing into the 2nd quarter.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I’m not sure what you’re saying but I didn’t blame Warren for the first if he didn’t even play the majority of it.
What I’m saying is that we need to get the starters out sooner than later. Insert Warren and Bridges a lot sooner.

We can have JJ’s inconsistent decision making out there coupled with Anderson’s useless presence, as well as Ariza playing into the 2nd quarter.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth (or whatever). It's just that we've been dominated in the 2nd quarter for 3 straight games. While watching, I rarely pay attention to where we are in the game when substitutions happen. So, if it turns out that Warren is getting most of his first half minutes in the 2nd quarter, that's a big concern.

 

[95pro]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth (or whatever). It's just that we've been dominated in the 2nd quarter for 3 straight games. While watching, I rarely pay attention to where we are in the game when substitutions happen. So, if it turns out that Warren is getting most of his first half minutes in the 2nd quarter, that's a big concern.

My gripe is the rotations and substitution.

 

[Yuma]

Didn't Ayton lead us in points, rebounds, AND Assists tonight? Also no turn overs! Best assist to turnover ratio!

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah, we should be neck and neck with the Grizzlies in this game. Whoever is doing our defense, we need to bring in someone new! Whatever it is, leads to drives to the hoop consistently.

I remember Igor saying he didn't believe in hiring coaches to be offensive coaches or defensive coaches, he wants everyone on his staff to have their hands in everything. The approach sounded decent with how he sold it but the result has been THIS, which isn't cutting it.

 

[Yuma]

I remember Igor saying he didn't believe in hiring coaches to be offensive coaches or defensive coaches, he wants everyone on his staff to have their hands in everything. The approach sounded decent with how he sold it but the result has been THIS, which isn't cutting it.

I wonder how San Antonio started when Pop changed everything in San Antonio? Hoping the end result eventually looks like that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Didn't Ayton lead us in points, rebounds, AND Assists tonight? Also no turn overs! Best assist to turnover ratio!

Yeah, Ayton is a huge bright spot for us.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Suns basketball is disappointing right now. On the plus side, as opposed to things I've read on Facebook, at least no one here is suggesting that "wii should use a Hyperbolic Chamber to speed up healing".

 

[BC867]

I remember Igor saying he didn't believe in hiring coaches to be offensive coaches or defensive coaches, he wants everyone on his staff to have their hands in everything. The approach sounded decent with how he sold it but the result has been THIS, which isn't cutting it.

From a management perspective, a coaching staff full of generalists and no specialists. It sounds like ... jack of all trades, master of none. 'Not effective!

I wonder if that is a cover for our being such a weak defensive team. No one to hold accountable. 'Sounds like the ol' D'Antoni when he made jokes to the Press about disdain for defense. Just score more than your opponents. Couple that with the 3-point shot being the weapon of choice of everyone not named Ayton and it would be an explanation for our run of 20-point losses. Along with the in and out appearances of Booker.

Although I find Kokoskov to not be an innovative coach and not react to situations very well, I sympathize with him being saddled with a pathetic roster. Except for a couple of very young guys, Booker and Ayton (and especially with Warren's 3-point performance vs. the Grizzlies with Booker out and Warren's lack of defense), the rest of the roster is not NBA worthy.

What is the answer? I am afraid that there is none, because the lack of expertise starts at the top and rolls downhill, all the way to the assistant coaches. It sounds like the U.S. 2-party political system) no matter whom you support. We know the problems of gridlock, but there is no solution.

With all of the innovations and technological advances of the 21st Century, it also brings many, many problems. Just like the Facebook dilemma being presented on Front Line on Arizona PBS in a 2-part series Monday and Tuesday nights at 9PM. So many benefits to the average person, but so many risks.

Five games into the season and I'm wondering how long it will take for talks of tanking to start. Out of contention for a ninth straight season. I don't think I could watch most of this season rooting for a home team who is trying to lose again. It got us Ayton, but then the Suns blew it by not procuring a talented Point Guard one way or the other.

...he wants everyone on his staff to have their hands in everything. That stinks of hiding from responsibility. The opposite of sticking your neck out to be innovative.

 

[sdscard4]

Still a joke of a team losing by double digits every game. I for one am tired of watching it. Thank God for ASU and the Yotes

 

[AzStevenCal]

Still a joke of a team losing by double digits every game. I for one am tired of watching it. Thank God for ASU and the Yotes

It's disappointing for sure but Booker, when he plays, is a lot of fun to watch and Ayton is worth the price of admission IMO. But I can't fault anyone else for demanding more for their free time and money.

 

[taz02]

Yep, I missed today's game and didn't really care. Its odd that in the opener they looked like a championship contender. Now nothing is working.

I agree, I have no interest in spending the next six months waiting on the draft, AGAIN.

This team does not need another draft pick, a couple more years of losing like this and the wheels will really come off.

I wonder what the value of our 1st round pick is at the moment. We need to use it now.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I dreaded coming in here tonight. The worst thing in the world for this team would have been to get the #1 overall pick and have it be a bust. Ayton was then right pick and will be a star. Booker can create his own shot and his offense is real. THAT is something you can build around.

Ariza is horrible, same with Anderson.

Again. Just play Bender. I am under no illusion with him. He has been horrible and his confidence is shot, but the kid has skills and plays D.

JJ horrible again. If I could trade for a decent pg I would.

 

[1Sun]

Yep, I missed today's game and didn't really care. Its odd that in the opener they looked like a championship contender. Now nothing is working.

I agree, I have no interest in spending the next six months waiting on the draft, AGAIN.

This team does not need another draft pick, a couple more years of losing like this and the wheels will really come off.

I wonder what the value of our 1st round pick is at the moment. We need to use it now.

Seems like the wheels have come off already...

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

I don't understand the surprise in this thread. Who is coach supposed to be subbing in? Do we have good players sitting on the bench that I don't know about? Bridges got good minutes. Okobo got good minutes. Who are you pining for?
Ayton was awesome. He is really growing quickly. Of course this has nothing to do with the coach and the staff. Ariza and Andersen came here for a vacation and easy money. But due to the roster they have to play. Chandler is worse than useless. Second quarter stats were mentioned earlier...
I am excited for the future. And that includes coach. Unfortunately JJ looks more like a bust each game. Very low BB IQ. Too many high draft pick misses for us to expect much more from this team 5 games into this season.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Yep, I missed today's game and didn't really care. Its odd that in the opener they looked like a championship contender. Now nothing is working.

I agree, I have no interest in spending the next six months waiting on the draft, AGAIN.

This team does not need another draft pick, a couple more years of losing like this and the wheels will really come off.

I wonder what the value of our 1st round pick is at the moment. We need to use it now.

amazing how good you can look when shooters hit their shots. Do you think the coach changed things up because that was too exciting for the fans?

 

[Krangodnzr]

This team just flat out lacks quality basketball players. You can count on one hand how many good NBA basketball players are on this team.

Blame Igor if you want, but the reality is that the team has three good basketball players, a few average players, and a bunch of scrubs.