Suns have discussed Warren, Jackson, #6 pick in trade packages

[Hoop Head]

Not to mention the nova connection with bridges. I’m a nova guy and Brunson reminds me of Lowry. He’s a Pitbull more of a drive guy and make something happen in the lane then start chucking 3s. I liked him a lot as a PG.


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I forgot about the Bridges connection but I think that actually works in favor of a deal. I would be really happy with that trade for a few reasons, I like Brunson, I think he'd be a good fit as a starter or backup, and he'd also free up some cap space for us.

We might include Okobo or Melton in that deal also, I could see Dallas having some interest in Melton because they don't need him to do more than defend with Luka there as their PG of sorts. That would free up more space because it would be a straight salary swap of Melton or Okobo for Brunson and then they take TJ's deal as well.

 

[Raindog]

Is this just some random speculation? I have nothing against getting Brunson, but in what universe would be sending Warren AND Okobo/Melton for just Brunson? Something else significant better be coming back with Brunson.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Is this just some random speculation? I have nothing against getting Brunson, but in what universe would be sending Warren AND Okobo/Melton for just Brunson? Something else significant better be coming back with Brunson.

Maybe their 2nd round pick but this would be a salary dump move that gets a PG in return that is a better prospect then okobo or Melton

 

[Mainstreet]

Is this just some random speculation? I have nothing against getting Brunson, but in what universe would be sending Warren AND Okobo/Melton for just Brunson? Something else significant better be coming back with Brunson.

Cringe.... #37.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Warren for 37?!? Cmon. Get a future protected first at least.

 

[Hoop Head]

Is this just some random speculation? I have nothing against getting Brunson, but in what universe would be sending Warren AND Okobo/Melton for just Brunson? Something else significant better be coming back with Brunson.

Yeah, $10 million in cap space. The cap space would be viewed as a win there because they don't need to stretch Tyler Johnson then. They'd have a little over $20 million in space to sign free agents and they'd add a competent PG to start while our pick learns the ropes more or to play backup in Brunson. Then we'd have plenty of room to make a good offer to Randle and resign Oubre.

White/Brunson
Booker/Bridges/Tyler Johnson
Oubre/Jackson
Randle/2nd Round Pick
Ayton/Dedmon

Of course Oubre could play some PF, Bridges can play some SF, Jackson can play SG, Johnson can play some PG, Ayton can also play some PF. There's a lot to like there and we would have cap space for next summer when Johnson expires also.

 

[Chaplin]

Warren for 37?!? Cmon. Get a future protected first at least.

Agreed, but can Dallas even do this? Are they so far under the cap that they can simply absorb Warren's entire salary?

 

[Mainstreet]

Warren for 37?!? Cmon. Get a future protected first at least.

Dallas has already traded a couple of first rounders to the Knicks. It's the salary space that motivates the deal.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Dallas has already traded a couple of first rounders to the Knicks. It's the salary space that motivates the deal.

That’s right. Interesting in that dallas may be somehow hamstring in making deals.

 

[Hoop Head]

Agreed, but can Dallas even do this? Are they so far under the cap that they can simply absorb Warren's entire salary?

Yes, they have roughly $60 in salaries and then a $20 million cap hold for Porzingis but once they clear up Dirk and Barea's cap holds they should be able to absorb TJ's deal.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/cap/

 

[Raindog]

Salary dumping Warren for cap space... and then whiffing on any decent FAs... and end up watching Oubre walk, too.

That sounds like about par for a Suns offseason. So they better have all those ducks lined up before they start throwing away the few legitimate NBA guys on their roster for nothing.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Salary dumping Warren for cap space... and then whiffing on any decent FAs... and end up watching Oubre walk, too.

That sounds like about par for a Suns offseason. So they better have all those ducks lined up before they start throwing away the few legitimate NBA guys on their roster for nothing.

Warren doesn't want to be there and doesn't fit the team, the cap space alone is more valuable to the sun's then he is now, you don't just keep guys like that just because you are unsure if you can sign someone. You 100% won't sign someone without cap space

 

[Mainstreet]

Salary dumping Warren for cap space... and then whiffing on any decent FAs... and end up watching Oubre walk, too.

That sounds like about par for a Suns offseason. So they better have all those ducks lined up before they start throwing away the few legitimate NBA guys on their roster for nothing.

The speculation is Warren doesn't want to be here and replace him with someone that does with the salary space.

I think the Suns keep Oubre.

 

[Raindog]

Regardless if he wants to be here or not doesn't mean you have to gift him to someone else to your own detriment.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Salary dumping Warren for cap space... and then whiffing on any decent FAs... and end up watching Oubre walk, too.

That sounds like about par for a Suns offseason. So they better have all those ducks lined up before they start throwing away the few legitimate NBA guys on their roster for nothing.

This is my guess.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Regardless if he wants to be here or not doesn't mean you have to gift him to someone else to your own detriment.

Amen

 

[Krangodnzr]

The speculation is Warren doesn't want to be here and replace him with someone that does with the salary space.

I think the Suns keep Oubre.

I think Oubre is going to cost more than any of us would want the Suns to spend unfortunately.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Regardless if he wants to be here or not doesn't mean you have to gift him to someone else to your own detriment.

If it's just for that pick then I agree it's a little low although im not exactly sure what his trade value is at the moment, but if they get brunson too then it is not that bad of a trade

 

[Chaplin]

Jalen Brunson for #32/Melton.



Just kidding, no way Dallas would do that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

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i'd hope we can get Brunson in that deal. Would have taken him before Okobo last year.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think Oubre is going to cost more than any of us would want the Suns to spend unfortunately.

It may well be but I view him as a third piece alongside Booker and Ayton. And Oubre is only the Suns 23 and figures to get much better.

I don't think the Suns are going to find anyone better in free agency.

 

[Mainstreet]

More on Warren rumors. I'd like to get a first round pick in return.

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[SirStefan32]

I think Dallas has a pretty sizable trade exception too. I am not sure how that works, though.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think Dallas has a pretty sizable trade exception too. I am not sure how that works, though.

The team that can absorb Warren's salary probably gets the edge unless the Suns can get something they want in return. I'd like to get Sabonis from Indiana.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

More on Warren rumors. I'd like to get a first round pick in return.

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Yeah this is a guy who averages 18pts/game, substantially improved his 3 pt shot so not only wasn’t it a detriment, but a strength - and did so with big increase in volume. And he’s on a reasonable contract for a few years. And more than one team apparently wants him. You do NOT just give him away unless you are 100% certain what you are going to do (not what you’re hoping to do) with the cap savings.