Suns interest in Dampier

Joe Mama

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I guess I stand corrected. According to this article Phoenix Suns have been inquiring about a sign and trade deal for Erick Dampier. However what this article doesn't mention is what the Phoenix Suns were actually willing to give to get him as well as what they were willing to pay him. I guess anything is still possible. I read several places this morning that although the deal with Dallas is likely it is not a sure thing. Apparently Dallas hasn't even worked out a deal with Dampier yet.

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Suns interested in big men Williams, Dampier
By Mike Tulumello, Tribune
The Suns are likely to add a big man or two in the near future.
Among the candidates is center Scott Williams, who played for the Suns for a season-and-a-half and was popular with teammates.

Williams was released by the Suns in January.

The Suns also have inquired about the most high-profile big man available this summer, center Erick Dampier, who played for the Golden State Warriors and is now a free agent.

"We have inquired about Dampier multiple times regarding a sign-and-trade and have not come up with any scenarios contractually or trade- wise that make sense for us," club president Bryan Colangelo said by e-mail from Greece, where he is attending the Olympic Games.

Dampier had a breakout year last season, but carries a reputation as a high-maintenance, injury-prone player. The Suns would likely be more interested in him if they could get him for a contract of three years or so, instead of six or seven years.

Any deal involving Dampier likely would involve the Suns' Zarko Cabarkapa, who is said to be liked by Warriors executive Chris Mullin. If this doesn't work out, then Williams and another journeyman-type center likely would be the route the club takes.

AMERICANS IN ATHENS

Like most Americans who follow basketball, Colangelo was disappointed by the rout of the American men's basketball team by Puerto Rico in the Olympics.

But Colangelo has more of an interest than most. He is on the committee that helped select the team.

Colangelo was asked for his reaction to the team's performance and its seeming lack of perimeter shooters.

Said Colangelo, referring to the many players who refused a spot on the team (only Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson remain from the original nine), "We were faced with very difficult circumstances putting this team together and considered many players, including shooters, along the way.

"Needless to say, I am not alone in my disappointment of our performances thus far. We feel we are better than what we have shown and feel that better team play will lead to better chemistry, more confidence and a better chance to win.

"Keep in mind we are playing certain countries that spend much more time together, including year-to-year competitions. "Hopefully the (coaching) staff will find a way to pull them together."
 

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Can you imagine what would go through Cuban's mind if the Suns were to swoop in and grab Dampier out from under his nose? That's gotta be worth $60 million right there!
 

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I wonder what the Suns have been offering? If Golden State wants Cabarkapa, then I guess it wouldn't make any sense for them to want Marion. Maybe they want Johnson? But then Eisley would have to be included in order for Dampier to make any money, so the Warriors would insist on dumping one of their own bad contracts. I still don't see how it would add up though.

For a deal to work with the Suns, the big piece would still have to be Marion. Maybe Marion+Cabarkapa+Eisley+cash for Dampier+Dunleavy+Eschmeyer, which puts Dampier at about $8 million to start.
 

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I am sick of seeing the board trying to trade Marion.. I am pretty sure he wont be traded.
 

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GS doesn't want to take back any big contracts at all that is why they don't want to do a sign and trade. What if Dam did a vet min with GS and then we traded with GS is that possible??
 

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GS doesn't want to take back any big contracts at all that is why they don't want to do a sign and trade.

They don't want to take on any bad big contracts. If they could get a good player on a long-term deal, I'm sure they'd consider it.

What if Dam did a vet min with GS and then we traded with GS is that possible??

It is theoretically possible, but not possible from a practical standpoint. For what conceivable reason would Dampier agree to a minimum contract?
 

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elindholm said:
For a deal to work with the Suns, the big piece would still have to be Marion. Maybe Marion+Cabarkapa+Eisley+cash for Dampier+Dunleavy+Eschmeyer, which puts Dampier at about $8 million to start.
The Suns have definately not offered Marion or Golden State would have taken that in a heartbeat. Especially since they dump Eschmeyer on the Suns and get Zarko as well.

Eisley plus Zarko is much more likely.
 

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Eisley plus Zarko is much more likely.

No way the Warriors take that. Even if they do want Cabarkapa, Eisley is a huge negative.

Johnson, Cabarkapa, Eisley, cash, and the Chicago pick -- maybe.

The Warriors simply will not agree to any sign-and-trade unless they are getting quite an attractive package in return. There is no debating that. If the Suns aren't willing to do something that looks like a borderline overpayment, they have no chance. It's similar to the Nash situation.
 

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Dampier = Calvin Booth Part II

How is he going to help Dallas? They were one of the top 3 rebounding teams already and Dampier's teams always were bad teams with good rebounding and horrible defensively.
 

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Dampier = Calvin Booth Part II

Whoever winds up with Dampier, it will be because they have a higher opinion of him than that. So if the Suns agree with you, there is no conversation, because certainly they won't get him.
 
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I honestly cannot think of a package that make sense for both teams were the Phoenix Suns end up with Dampier and Golden State ends up with something better than Dallas is offering.

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Given the report that Celtics is interested in Marion, how about a three way:

Celtics get Marion.

Phx gets Dampier and R.Davis.

Warriors get Zarko and Payton.

Maybe Boston want to sweeten it by adding Lakers' pick going Warriors' way. For GS, Payton either retires, which costs them nothing, or he can start in his hometown.
 
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