Suns @ Jazz Friday game thread 11-18-2022

[Mainstreet]

Final:

Jazz 134 - Suns 133

 

[Dback Jon]

Well that sucks

 

[Finito]

I hate this Bally app I just got the update on bleacher report before I see the end of the game

 

[Mainstreet]

Markkanen can’t miss

Pretty much the story of the game.

 

[Finito]

Horrible shot by Lee.

That’s our problem if it ain’t Book at the end it’s a huge drop off

 

[Mainstreet]

Some final stats.

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[Mainstreet]

I’ve said over and over that he’s checked out and is done. You know that.

I'm not buying Ayton has checked out. He may not be playing up to his capability but he has not checked out.

 

[Finito]

I'm not buying Ayton has checked out. He may not be playing up to his capability but he has not checked out.

The rebounding numbers tell me he’s not trying.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns could use someone like Malik Beasley off the bench. They didn't get a lot from their bench.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That down there stretch mastery thing doesn’t work nearly as well when the team only has one legitimate shot creator on the entire team.

 

[Mainstreet]

The rebounding numbers tell me he’s not trying.

I think Ayton is being Ayton. It's worse if he is not trying. Ayton can be a paradox.

 

[Mainstreet]

Jazz finished shooting 51.6% from three. Suns only shot 30% from that range.

 

[Finito]

9-6

Losing 4 of our last 6

 

[Finito]

I think Ayton is being Ayton. It's worse if he is not trying. Ayton can be a paradox.

He’s never looked like this his entire career. It’s obvious

 

[Mainstreet]

He’s never looked like this his entire career. It’s obvious

Let's give it some time. Chris Paul has been out.

 

[Finito]

That down there stretch mastery thing doesn’t work nearly as well when the team only has one legitimate shot creator on the entire team.

Yeah you figure last year we were clutch like no one’s ever seen, we’re gonna lose a lot more of those games this year with this roster.

I think 5-8 seed

 

[Finito]

Let's give it some time. Chris Paul has been out.

His best stretch last year was when Paul was out. Paul being out doesn’t affect his rebounding.

Like I said I think it’s pretty obvious what’s going on

 

[Mainstreet]

His best stretch last year was when Paul was out. Paul being out doesn’t affect his rebounding.

Like I said I think it’s pretty obvious what’s going on

I'd like to think he is better than that.

 

[Finito]

I'd like to think he is better than that.

Nope

 

[Mainstreet]

Nope

Then no huge loss if the Suns trade him down the road.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He’s never looked like this his entire career. It’s obvious

People have been pointing out this level of play for a very long time. It might not be consistently this weak but it’s all part of the good Ayton/bad Ayton waves he goes through every year. It’s why almost every year, he starts getting benched at some point.

The only difference this year is he’s consistently meh Ayton. He just doesn’t have the good Ayton stretches to buffer them.

 

[Finito]

People have been pointing out this level of play for a very long time. It might not be consistently this weak but it’s all part of the good Ayton/bad Ayton waves he goes through every year. It’s why almost every year, he starts getting benched at some point.

The only difference this year is he’s consistently meh Ayton. He just doesn’t have the good Ayton stretches to buffer them.

That’s one area where I’ll push back. We’ve seen Ayton play well and this in game thread filled with Ayton sucks. Ayton has always been the fall guy didn’t matter what he did. It’s become such low hanging fruit over the years I just ignore it. It’s never been this even when he was a rookie.

He’s never been like this he’s averaging career lows across the board.

He’s never averaged under 10 rebounds he’s pulling down 7 this year. His shooting % down 6 points, averaging a career high turnovers 2.3, averaging 1.6 FTA. His defensive rating had dropped 6 points.

He’s fallen off a cliff. He’s not even trying

 

[GatorAZ]

Crazy thing about Utah is they have a bunch of assets from the Mitchell and Gobert trades should they push towards a playoff run.

 

[Raindog]

How many games is this now that the Suns have lost by one point (or one basket) so far this season?

 

[Mainstreet]

It's crazy in the Western Conference.

The Trail Blazers lead the conference. They have 5 losses and six teams have 6 losses, including the Suns.