Suns Off-season Thread

[Chaplin]

Let's hope he's not another Zarko Cabarkapa.

Good God.

 

[Superbone]

Good God.

Remember his horrible spill when he was undercut and then he was never the same player again?

 

[Finito]

Remember his horrible spill when he was undercut and then he was never the same player again?

Yeah I remember him looking really good before that then Boom

 

[Finito]

Power forward Marquese Chriss is available. Maybe ship Crowder to the Pelicans for Nance Jr

And why exactly would the Pels do that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Remember his horrible spill when he was undercut and then he was never the same player again?

it's nuts... but that injury just totally derailed him in a way I've never seen anyone else. He wasn't a superstar or even a star in the making, but as a rookie, coming overseas, he did show flashes of being a legit player in the league early and often.

then that injury happened and... bubkis from then on.

 

[Mainstreet]

Remember his horrible spill when he was undercut and then he was never the same player again?

Zarko was never the same after the incident with Danny Fortson. It's a shame because I thought he had a bright career ahead.

 

[Carolinacacti]

And why exactly would the Pels do that.

Maybe if the Suns sweeten the deal

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yeah, I don't think the Suns are looking for starters. I expect Cam Johnson to start at power forward.

What the Suns need are players capable of starting in a pinch in case of injury or to rest players.

I'm still wanting that third ball handler and shooter, although I'm optimistic Duane Washington Jr. may help.

The need for an Eric Gordon type player is still there. Also, I'd like a power forward that can do more than shoot 3-pointers, who can mix it up inside.

I wonder if this was part of the coolness between Jae and the Suns this summer. Could Monty and James have told Jae "Hey, we want you to know that we are planning to start Cam at PF next year. We still want you and we think you will be extremely valuable coming off the bench, but we also did not want to surprise you with it. If you want us to trade you, we understand. You are a starting caliber player."

 

[overseascardfan]

Phoenix Suns trade updates, rumors, speculation, options after missing out on Kevin Durant

Check out the latest NBA trade speculation, rumors, options, ideas and suggestions involving the Phoenix Suns and players not named Kevin Durant.

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Here are some trade ideas for Suns from various sports sites. Here are the big ones:

SB Nation: Suns should pursue Julius Randle​

It writes: "Sam Cooper at the Timeline Podcast has been half joking that Julius Randle would make a good plan B to Durant, and I tend to agree, but only if the Suns don’t feel confident in Cam Johnson taking a leap and being ready to start. Yes I know, Randle had quite the regression to the mean in 2021-22 after his All-NBA season prior, but he wouldn’t be the first, second, or possibly even third option on the Suns, so a different level of expectations could yield more fruitful results."

Bright Side of the Suns: Suns should go after John Collins or Jordan Clarkson​

It writes: "I think it’s time to go after John Collins of Atlanta, depending on the cost to acquire of course. Now that KD is off the table, the Suns can use their draft picks for this current team, and I believe Collins can add another wrinkle to the Suns offense that’s tough to defend. He can help on rebounding too, which is much-needed for any Suns player not playing center. Collins wouldn’t be a 20/10 guy for the Suns because of all the other scorers, but 16/9 could be a huge help. What would it take? I’d do the deal if it only cost Crowder/Shamet/pick but would hard pass if they insist on Cameron Johnson. A secondary option is to poach the Utah Jazz of Jordan Clarkson and/or Bojan Bogdanovic, but again it depends on the cost."

SB Nation: Suns should get Wendell Carter Jr.​

It writes: "All good choices, gents! I wouldn’t mind any of them here in the Valley. Personally, my first call if I was James Jones would be to the Orlando Magic. After drafting Paolo Banchero with the number one pick and re-signing Mo Bamba in free agency, I am seriously wanting to know how much it would take to get Wendell Carter Jr. on the Suns. If the price is too steep or they truly aren’t willing to part ways with him then my attention goes to Jonathan Isaac. He is fresh off an injury and you may not agree with all his beliefs but before getting hurt he was in the running for DPOY himself. If he can get there, between Mikal and DA, our front court would be something else on D."

 

[JCSunsfan]

OK. Some thoughts. I have always thought of WCJ as a center, a very traditional one. I also don't want to underrate Cam Johnson. When that guy was on the court, good things happened.

I think any trade for any pf has to be an under-the-radar kind of acquisition. Minny so much overpaid for Gobert that it has disrupted the trade market. Deals are more difficult now because teams want more in return for perceived top-level players, and also because whatever trade they make will look like they got robbed in comparison. No GM wants to go in and try to explain to an owner why he did not get the return for his star player that the Jazz got for Gobert.

 

[Raindog]

Zarko was never the same after the incident with Danny Fortson. It's a shame because I thought he had a bright career ahead.

I have to wonder if that incident weighed on him subconsciously about the possibility of a similar injury in the future that it destroyed his ability to focus while he was playing. I have seen similar things happen to people I knew who have suffered serious injuries playing rec sports, to the point they gave them up even though they loved playing.

 

[Mainstreet]

I have to wonder if that incident weighed on him subconsciously about the possibility of a similar injury in the future that it destroyed his ability to focus while he was playing. I have seen similar things happen to people I knew who have suffered serious injuries playing rec sports, to the point they gave them up even though they loved playing.

I definitely think the injury weighed heavy on Zarko's mind. It was brutal.

 

[Mainstreet]

I wonder if this was part of the coolness between Jae and the Suns this summer. Could Monty and James have told Jae "Hey, we want you to know that we are planning to start Cam at PF next year. We still want you and we think you will be extremely valuable coming off the bench, but we also did not want to surprise you with it. If you want us to trade you, we understand. You are a starting caliber player."

It could well be because the rumor around draft time is the Suns were shopping him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dario Saric looking quick in this video clip of FIBA Euro Basket qualifier against Poland.

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[Finito]

I would love Randle. I get he has his flaws but we ain’t gonna get a perfect player.

Charles Barkley ripped Kevin Durant as an "abject failure," which CB has apparently done before. That was quite rich coming from a player who won zero championships and was never willing to work hard on his conditioning. Honestly, I have called Barkley a failure in the past.

As for Kevin Durant: I may disrespect him for demanding trades, hopping teams and benefiting from dynasties that other players built; but...I have no idea how I would call him a failure.

I mean honestly I think it’s pretty spot on.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I like the John Collins options and think his defense would improve here.

WCJ is a good option too but at only 23 y/o why would the magic move that contract? It's AWESOME!

 

[Finito]

So I should consider Kevin Durant a failure?

You can consider him whatever you want that’s your opinion

I agree he’s been a huge disappointment on his career. Has a ton of talent no doubt but he’s not a leader in anyway

 

[Proximo]

Dario Saric looking quick in this video clip of FIBA Euro Basket qualifier against Poland.

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You call that quick?

I just don't get the Dario love. 70% of the time he is a negative when he is on the floor.

 

[Mainstreet]

You call that quick?

I just don't get the Dario love. 70% of the time he is a negative when he is on the floor.

Quick can be relative. Dario looks quicker than the last time I saw him play in a Suns uniform.

 

[Chaplin]

You call that quick?

I just don't get the Dario love. 70% of the time he is a negative when he is on the floor.

70%? I don't think you remember Dario that well. He wasn't a world beater by any means, but that last year before his injury (and we went to the Finals), he and Cam Payne were nails.

 

[Proximo]

70%? I don't think you remember Dario that well. He wasn't a world beater by any means, but that last year before his injury (and we went to the Finals), he and Cam Payne were nails.

No, I don't think you remember him very well. He would have streaks where he was good - about 30% of the time - which is all anyone on here seems to remember, and 70% of the time I was screaming to get him off the floor.

Go look at his game logs - he is not a player that can be relied upon - and he does not have a position. You don't want him playing 4 or 5. I guess I am in the minority, but I want him off the team.

 

[95pro]

No, I don't think you remember him very well. He would have streaks where he was good - about 30% of the time - which is all anyone on here seems to remember, and 70% of the time I was screaming to get him off the floor.

Go look at his game logs - he is not a player that can be relied upon - and he does not have a position. You don't want him playing 4 or 5. I guess I am in the minority, but I want him off the team.

Its all a matter of opinions, i want Jae gone like last season but hasn't happened. Not that this was the discussion, but i'd keep Dario over Jae

 

[ASUCHRIS]

No, I don't think you remember him very well. He would have streaks where he was good - about 30% of the time - which is all anyone on here seems to remember, and 70% of the time I was screaming to get him off the floor.

Go look at his game logs - he is not a player that can be relied upon - and he does not have a position. You don't want him playing 4 or 5. I guess I am in the minority, but I want him off the team.

I think this is too harsh. He was bad as a starter, and I wouldn't want him in that role, but he was quite effective as a second team facilitator and irritant. There is definitely a role for that on this team, and hopefully he is the impetus for a more effective Cam P.

 

[Mainstreet]

No, I don't think you remember him very well. He would have streaks where he was good - about 30% of the time - which is all anyone on here seems to remember, and 70% of the time I was screaming to get him off the floor.

Go look at his game logs - he is not a player that can be relied upon - and he does not have a position. You don't want him playing 4 or 5. I guess I am in the minority, but I want him off the team.

That's Super Dario you are talking about.

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[JCSunsfan]

You call that quick?

I just don't get the Dario love. 70% of the time he is a negative when he is on the floor.

Wow. This is so much not true. He is one of those very consistent performers who does all the little things to make him valuable. His value does not usually show up on stats sheets but he is a very consistent performer. He is not a star player and we know which players he will struggle against.