Suns Off-season Thread

[Yuma]

He was playing in Russia and a war got in the way of his career there so staying in the states to try and get on an NBA team seems like it could be his only option to try and find a place to play professionally.

He didn't have to play in the Summer League. I'm sure the Suns want him to. The way I read the PR machine on this, is he volunteered to play for us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is a link to a list of a free agent point guards.

2022 NBA Free Agent Position Series: Point Guards

Keith Smith breaks down and ranks the 2022 NBA free agent point guards.

www.spotrac.com

 

[Hoop Head]

He didn't have to play in the Summer League. I'm sure the Suns want him to. The way I read the PR machine on this, is he volunteered to play for us.

He doesn't have to but as a player who has only had a Two-Way contract for like 3 weeks and never played in the G-League, he needs to try and catch on somewhere. He has no guarantee and Suns have first right of refusal kind of. He's a restricted Two-Way player and if he wants to be brought back on another then he needs to play Summer League.

 

[Yuma]

FRINGE TIER (UNRANKED AND PRESENTED IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER)
Ryan Arcidiacono – New York Knicks (unrestricted)
Facundo Campazzo – Denver Nuggets (restricted)
Chris Chiozza – Golden State Warriors (restricted – Two-Way)
Sharife Cooper – Atlanta Hawks (restricted – Two-Way)
David Duke Jr. – Brooklyn Nets (restricted – Two-Way)
Trent Forrest – Utah Jazz (restricted)
Brandon Goodwin – Cleveland Cavaliers (restricted – Two-Way)
Jared Harper – New Orleans Pelicans (restricted – Two-Way)
Aaron Holiday – Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Markus Howard – Denver Nuggets (restricted – Two-Way)
Mac McClung – Los Angeles Lakers (unrestricted – Two-Way)
Xavier Moon – LA Clippers (restricted – Two-Way)
Elfrid Payton – Phoenix Suns (unrestricted)
Myles Powell – Philadelphia 76ers (restricted – Two-Way)
Lindell Wigginton – Milwaukee Bucks (restricted – Two-Way)
Cassius Winston – Washington Wizards (restricted – Two-Way)
McKinley Wright IV – Minnesota Timberwolves (restricted – Two-Way)
Gabe York – Indiana Pacers (unrestricted – Two-Way)

OMG we have two guys on the bottom of the barrel section of the PG Free Agent List!

 

[Hoop Head]

I'll bet you told your 4 year old there was no Santa too. Okay, you're right on all this but you just popped the bubble for a few of us desperate dreamers.

I'm just trying to temper expectations. Iffe being the answer is an extreme long shot. I had more faith in Isaiah Canaan, Shaq Harrison, and Tyler Ulis. I think Ulis might be younger than Iffe is now also. Maybe we should call him up.

 

[Yuma]

Gary Payton II is probably just a pipe dream, too! He will probably get paid. Rubio is coming off injury, but I think he wants to play in Spain. Patty Mills would be a great guy to have. Similar to CP3 in being a floor general type player.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm just trying to temper expectations. Iffe being the answer is an extreme long shot. I had more faith in Isaiah Canaan, Shaq Harrison, and Tyler Ulis. I think Ulis might be younger than Iffe is now also. Maybe we should call him up.

Yeah, I know, I was just teasing you a bit. And I really liked Tiny Tyler coming out of Kentucky and thought he was going to be a great change of pace guard in the NBA. But if we bring him back I think we'd need to bring back Alan Williams too.

 

[Mainstreet]

FRINGE TIER (UNRANKED AND PRESENTED IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER)
Ryan Arcidiacono – New York Knicks (unrestricted)
Facundo Campazzo – Denver Nuggets (restricted)
Chris Chiozza – Golden State Warriors (restricted – Two-Way)
Sharife Cooper – Atlanta Hawks (restricted – Two-Way)
David Duke Jr. – Brooklyn Nets (restricted – Two-Way)
Trent Forrest – Utah Jazz (restricted)
Brandon Goodwin – Cleveland Cavaliers (restricted – Two-Way)
Jared Harper – New Orleans Pelicans (restricted – Two-Way)
Aaron Holiday – Phoenix Suns (restricted)
Markus Howard – Denver Nuggets (restricted – Two-Way)
Mac McClung – Los Angeles Lakers (unrestricted – Two-Way)
Xavier Moon – LA Clippers (restricted – Two-Way)
Elfrid Payton – Phoenix Suns (unrestricted)
Myles Powell – Philadelphia 76ers (restricted – Two-Way)
Lindell Wigginton – Milwaukee Bucks (restricted – Two-Way)
Cassius Winston – Washington Wizards (restricted – Two-Way)
McKinley Wright IV – Minnesota Timberwolves (restricted – Two-Way)
Gabe York – Indiana Pacers (unrestricted – Two-Way)

OMG we have two guys on the bottom of the barrel section of the PG Free Agent List!

I see former Sun Jared Harper on the above list as well.

 

[Yuma]

I see former Sun Jared Harper on the above list as well.

Seems like we have had every fringe PG come through PHX lately at some point...

 

[Mainstreet]

Seems like we have had every fringe PG come through PHX lately at some point...

We've been through a bunch for sure.

 

[Yuma]

I think it was Bright Side that had an article estimating that 40 to 60 percent of our roster was going to turn over. That maybe 5 of our 7 free agents will be gone. The Suns don't seem to think the back end of their bench was very helpful this year.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think it was Bright Side that had an article estimating that 40 to 60 percent of our roster was going to turn over. That maybe 5 of our 7 free agents will be gone. The Suns don't seem to think the back end of their bench was very helpful this year.

Yeah, I've been scouring free agent lists for vet minimum type players. Frank is looking better and better.

 

[Mainstreet]

Gary Payton II is probably just a pipe dream, too! He will probably get paid. Rubio is coming off injury, but I think he wants to play in Spain. Patty Mills would be a great guy to have. Similar to CP3 in being a floor general type player.

If the Suns keep Ayton I may need a player directory.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah, I've been scouring free agent lists for vet minimum type players. Frank is looking better and better.

Kellen Olsen said he believes Frank will be back, especially if Dario dealt.

 

[Covert Rain]

Kellen Olsen said he believes Frank will be back, especially if Dario dealt.

I don't think the Suns are willing to hold 2 roster spots for guys that could be risk injuries. Frank might be our best bet. Man, he was shooting and playing really well before the injury. We still desperately need to find a legit backup PG.

 

[Hoop Head]

I don't think the Suns are willing to hold 2 roster spots for guys that could be risk injuries. Frank might be our best bet. Man, he was shotting and playing really well before the injury. We still desperately need to find a legit backup PG.

Frank would cost about 15-20% of what Dario does. We'd need to find a taker for Dario but Frank being a minimum signing makes him as a possible deep bench candidate, even if they can't find a taker for Dario until the trade deadline.

 

[Yuma]

Frank would cost about 15-20% of what Dario does. We'd need to find a taker for Dario but Frank being a minimum signing makes him as a possible deep bench candidate, even if they can't find a taker for Dario until the trade deadline.

Vet minimum is probably all we can offer, but he really seems to like PHX.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Frank would cost about 15-20% of what Dario does. We'd need to find a taker for Dario but Frank being a minimum signing makes him as a possible deep bench candidate, even if they can't find a taker for Dario until the trade deadline.

I want both of them back. I know that between injuries and him being out of shape, we haven't seen a lot of Dario at his best but when he's at his best, it gives us a starting caliber player coming off the bench.

I'm okay if we trade him for value but unless he doesn't seem capable of coming all the way back, I don't want to just get rid of him. Frank is great for chemistry, and occasionally he's great on the court too.

 

[Hoop Head]

Vet minimum is probably all we can offer, but he really seems to like PHX.

The minimum is what he was on the last 2 seasons and I can't see a team offering more. He's worth that. Might even be worth a little more given how good he is for team chemistry and you can also pencil him for 1-2 big games a year.

 

[Proximo]

Just listened to Flex on a podcast.

He was saying there is a reason Kyrie opted in earlier than he had too, and that the lakers are still very interested

Basically it sounds like he still thinks the odds are more likely than not the Suns do end up with KD still.

Says deal would be something like Ayton, Cam or Mikal - but not both, Craig, Payne, Crowder and 2 first rounders.

 

[Mainstreet]

Just listened to Flex on a podcast.

He was saying there is a reason Kyrie opted in earlier than he had too, and that the lakers are still very interested

Basically it sounds like he still thinks the odds are more likely than not the Suns do end up with KD still.

Says deal would be something like Ayton, Cam or Mikal - but not both, Craig, Payne, Crowder and 2 first rounders.

I'm glad you listened. I wasn't going to wade into that.

 

[Covert Rain]

Just listened to Flex on a podcast.

He was saying there is a reason Kyrie opted in earlier than he had too, and that the lakers are still very interested

Basically it sounds like he still thinks the odds are more likely than not the Suns do end up with KD still.

Says deal would be something like Ayton, Cam or Mikal - but not both, Craig, Payne, Crowder and 2 first rounders.

So, in Flex speak it's a 50/50 if happens or doesn't happen. LOL. That's the exact same deal that has been suggested all over the place. I bet he wishes he had said this in his first statement. He wouldn't look the fool....again.

 

[Hoop Head]

ESPN lists all tradable pieces for each team. Here is what they have listed for the Suns...

What every NBA team can and can't trade this offseason

Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant could be traded. What do all 30 teams have to offer?

www.espn.com

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

ESPN lists all tradable pieces for each team. Here is what they have listed for the Suns...

What every NBA team can and can't trade this offseason

Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant could be traded. What do all 30 teams have to offer?

www.espn.com

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The fact that crowder, shamet, and saric are our 4th through 6th most expensive contracts says a lot.

 

[95pro]

ESPN lists all tradable pieces for each team. Here is what they have listed for the Suns...

What every NBA team can and can't trade this offseason

Donovan Mitchell and Kevin Durant could be traded. What do all 30 teams have to offer?

www.espn.com

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Wish we could have flipped Jae and Shamet for Jeremi Grant.