Suns officially sign Gordon to offer sheet

[95pro]

When are the 72 hours up? I'm anxious...

today

 

[Chaplin]

today

Nope. Tomorrow afternoon.

 

[KloD]

According to what I heard on the radio yesterday, the salary structure is really front loaded. Designed to make it very hard to match.

There had a been a post about that earlier, but it is pretty much confirmed. Babby made it as hard for New Orleans to match as possible.

While I'm 99.9% certain that N.O. matches, one thing about the Gordon situation makes me wonder. If N.O. is serious that they see him as a key part of the team, when PHX anounced they were making an offer, why didn't N.O. make a full offer? One, they could have had the contract to their liking. Two, they could have added another year (like Lopez got from the Nets) w/ no player option. Three, they would have shown Gordon they are committed to him as they claim. Just thoughts... it seems stupid to match knowing he's unhappy and only having him for 3 years.

 

[KloD]

In the end I was happy to see N.O. match. But, now there may be another reason to be thankful the Suns aren't committed to paying Gordon a max contract. He's missed all of training camp with soreness in his surgically repaired knee. First, they said he would not participate in much of the first few days of camp. Then it was he will miss the first few exhibition games, but be ready for the season. Now a few days later, exhibitions still a few days away, they are saying he may miss the beginning of the season.

May be nothing, but I'm just glad we don't have to sit here worrying about that knee.

 

[Mainstreet]

In the end I was happy to see N.O. match. But, now there may be another reason to be thankful the Suns aren't committed to paying Gordon a max contract. He's missed all of training camp with soreness in his surgically repaired knee. First, they said he would not participate in much of the first few days of camp. Then it was he will miss the first few exhibition games, but be ready for the season. Now a few days later, exhibitions still a few days away, they are saying he may miss the beginning of the season.

May be nothing, but I'm just glad we don't have to sit here worrying about that knee.

Regardless about Gordon's knee, it would have not been wise for the Suns to sink max money into an undersized SG. I wish the very best for Gordon and hope he gets and stays healthy.

 

[KloD]

Regardless about Gordon's knee, it would have not been wise for the Suns to sink max money into an undersized SG. I wish the very best for Gordon and hope he gets and stays healthy.

Yes, I pretty much said that. Of course I hope he heals, I'm just glad we don't have another Penny on our roster holding up max money, yet can never stay on the floor.

 

[Superbone]

It would have been Amare Stoudemire all over again.

 

[BC867]

Who? Giricek?

Lightfoot.

Gordon Lightfoot can update one of his hits to "The Wreck of the Robert Sarver".

 

[sunsfan88]

I think the Suns amazing training staff could have fixed up Gordon and changed his label of being injury prone.

 

[slinslin]

out indefinitely because of knee problems

 

[HoodieBets]

Talk about dodging a bullet, could be out a good portion of the year the way some are talking.

 

[Chaplin]

We'll never know for sure, but would he be out indefinitely with the Suns' training staff at his disposal? Even with that question, it appears we dodged a pretty expensive bullet.

 

[Phrazbit]

Offering a player with his injury history a max contract was insane.

 

[slinslin]

Offering a player with his injury history a max contract was insane.

Yes it was, especially since that player healthy was not truly worth that contract.

I really can't figure out what the direction for this team is.

Are they rebuilding a new era, a new beginning as they always say?
Or are they desperatly putting together just enough talent to be in the middle of the pack eg claiming Scola, signing Gordon, Beasley and Dragic..

This new era and rebuilding stuff just seems to be lip service to those fans who have waited for it while their actions contradict that.

Signing Dragic and Beasley is the equivalent of Detroit signing Gordon and Villanueva for their new era except that the contracts are not as outlandish and Beasley possesses more raw talent than any of the players.

Gordon = Dragic - Sometimes erratic scoring small guard getting a contract based off a small sample size.
Beasley = Villanueva - Multi-talented combo forward with questionable work ethic
Dudley = Prince - left-over hard working small forward veteran

I see some similarities in the development. It lead the Pistons to having the #9 pick in 2012, the #8 pick in 2011, #7 in 2010, #15 in 2009.

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree with all that the Suns dodged a mighty expensive bullet when the Hornets matched the Suns offer on Gordon.

 

[SunsTzu]

I agree with all that the Suns dodged a mighty expensive bullet when the Hornets matched the Suns offer on Gordon.

I am experiencing some Schadenfreude looking over Hornets fan's comments. Since the doctors have cleared him most of them assume he is faking. So their choices are a malcontent making max money or an increasingly injury prone player with unknown ailment the doctors can't treat making max money.

Either way I'm really grateful for the Hornets this off-season. First they take Austin Rivers off the draft board, then they save the Suns from themselves by matching Gordon.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I am experiencing some Schadenfreude looking over Hornets fan's comments. Since the doctors have cleared him most of them assume he is faking. So their choices are a malcontent making max money or an increasingly injury prone player with unknown ailment the doctors can't treat making max money.

Either way I'm really grateful for the Hornets this off-season. First they take Austin Rivers off the draft board, then they save the Suns from themselves by matching Gordon.

I'm not a big Rivers fan but I'd sure rather they took Kendall Marshall off the board even if it meant we'd end up seeing Doc junior in a Suns uniform.

Steve

 

[SunsTzu]

I'm not a big Rivers fan but I'd sure rather they took Kendall Marshall off the board even if it meant we'd end up seeing Doc junior in a Suns uniform.

Steve

Kendall Marshall at least has an NBA skill, whether or not he can develop a game around his passing be productive(or stay in the league at all) remains to be seen. I don't think Rivers has any NBA level skill, but he plays like he thinks he's a star which will be more harmful to a team than a guy not getting minutes.

 

[hcsilla]

Gordon = Dragic - Sometimes erratic scoring small guard getting a contract based off a small sample size.

Ben Gordon was always a jumpshooter SG in a PG-body with no defense.

I have no idea how could you compare him to Dragic.

 

[sunsfan88]

Offering a player with his injury history a max contract was insane.

Not really. He's likely faking the injury cause he hates NO so much.

 

[sunsfan88]

We told you today that the Hornets Eric Gordon is out indefinitely with a bum knee, which means he will be sitting when the Hornets tip off the season Wednesday night against the Spurs. That is the same knee he missed most of last season with following surgery, the one that has slowed him all preseason. The same knee that the Hornets ignored when giving Gordon a max $58 million extension this summer.

What exactly is the problem with Gordon’s knee? Therein lies the rub.

Hornets GM Dell Demps was pretty vague about what is going on. Or when we might expect him back. Or anything Gordon related. From the Times-Picayune (as pointed out by Deadspin):

“He’s processing some information right now and he doesn’t have any comment,” Demps said, without discussing just what that information was. “We don’t have any comment right now. We’re processing information and we will, at the appropriate time, give a statement.”

Okay… “processing some information.” Not sure what that means exactly, but the tone was pretty terse. Coach Monty Williams, you want to shed some light on how Gordon is feeling and what is going on?

“He probably does feel pain; that would be the only reason why a guy can’t play,” Williams said. “For me to try to read an MRI … I’ll find out more as we go forward. I try to not get into all that because that would just make me upset…

“I’ve checked with Doc,” Williams said, “but for him to explain to me what’s going on with his body and then have Eric feel a certain way doesn’t matter. You know what I’m saying? If Doc says one thing and the guy is feeling another, then you have to . . . what am I supposed to say?

“I’m sure it’s got to be medical. A guy just can’t not play. It’s got to be medical. At this point of the year, everybody is excited to play. I’m sure it’s medical.”

It sounds a whole lot like the Hornets doctors say Gordon is ready to go and he says he still has pain and is not. The problem is only the player really knows what he’s feeling. And like Williams said, it’s hard to imagine Gordon just sitting out because, that’s really not who he is. He’s a competitor.

But there seems to be a lot of friction between the Hornets and Gordon over how much friction is in his knee.

NO should have taken the hint when he said that he wanted to play here and not there.

 

[slinslin]

Not really. He's likely faking the injury cause he hates NO so much.

Yes. That is very likely.

 

[Phrazbit]

Not really. He's likely faking the injury cause he hates NO so much.

The guy does clearly have a fragile ego (further reason not to want him in the 1st place), but if he really was 100% faking it because he hates New Orleans then he is so unspeakably stupid that no one should ever want him. The guy cant be traded right now. Sitting because he wants out is just... dumb on an unreal level.

Whats most likely is that he is hurting and (as has been the case throughout his career) the guy is unwilling to play through discomfort.

 

[Town Drunk]

Microfracture surgery may be a possible remedy to Eric Gordon's knee injury, according to ESPN.com.
Gordon's right knee has been one of the more mysterious injuries in the past couple years and microfracture doesn't seem like a far-fetched idea for the 23-year-old guard. Microfracture was once a death sentence for guys like Penny Hardaway, but players like Jason Kidd have been able to remain on the court. Gordon owners should weigh their options on whether he's more help than harm on their rosters.
Source: ESPN.com Nov 2 - 4:16 PM

 

[jbeecham]

I am so glad NO matched the offer sheet we gave this guy.

Apparently they recommended Microfracture to him last season & he refused and just had arthroscopic instead & now he's having more problems with the same knee.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8...-offered-surgery-potential-remedy-knee-injury