Suns - Rockets Deal That Almost Was...

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

apparently the rockets offered battier, scola, brian cook and "multiple draft picks" for amare and if the rockets had agreed to waive the physicals, it was a done deal (at least, that's what espn scroll bar stated).

that's just flat out odd unless it was like 3 1st rounders including the knicks 2012 or this year's knicks pick.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

That's weird. First of all, I'd do that deal. Second of all, I would have loved to have gotten in the middle of that NYK-HOU trade. For example, Amare goes to HOU and we get Hill/fillers/picks. Would have loved that deal....

 

[AfroSuns]

apparently the rockets offered battier, scola, brian cook and "multiple draft picks" for amare and if the rockets had agreed to waive the physicals, it was a done deal (at least, that's what espn scroll bar stated).

that's just flat out odd unless it was like 3 1st rounders including the knicks 2012 or this year's knicks pick.

Waive the Physical? Is there something wrong with Amare we dont know about (well aside from his knee and eye surgery) or i am reading this wrong?

 

[Covert Rain]

Waive the Physical? Is there something wrong with Amare we dont know about (well aside from his knee and eye surgery) or i am reading this wrong?

Possibly waive the physicals for all players involved to speed up trade?

 

[mojorizen7]

I would've preferred Landry over Scola(not sure if this was pre or post the SAC/NY/HOU 3-way deal) but multiple picks would be just what the doctor ordered.
Battier doesn't really fit into our shitbox system so that puzzles me a tad.

 

[The Polecat]

I would really need some kind of verification to believe this one.

 

[elindholm]

I hate Scola, but he's a pretty effective player.

 

[slinslin]

would have much rather had Jordan Hill than JJ Hickson.

 

[Bufalay]

This rumor is mentioned on ESPN
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100218/daily-dime

According to one source, the Rockets tried to make a last-hour run at Stoudemire, offering Shane Battier, Luis Scola, Brian Cook, a Rockets draft pick and one of the picks the Rockets acquired from the New York Knicks. Because of the lateness of the hour the Suns wanted to waive the physical examinations for the players involved. The Rockets didn't want to do that for Stoudemire, who has had two major knee surgeries, so the proposal died and the Suns didn't make the long list of satisfied customers.

Does this mean that something is wrong with Amare?

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Yeah, there is something wrong with Amare, or at least atypical - he's been playing better defense as of late.

If there's something physically wrong with Amare (which I seriously doubt) it's not showing in his level of play, which is usually the first clue to a physical problem.

 

[devilalum]

This rumor is mentioned on ESPN
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100218/daily-dime



Does this mean that something is wrong with Amare?

He had holes drilled in his knee and his eye popped out

 

[Bufalay]

Yeah, there is something wrong with Amare, or at least atypical - he's been playing better defense as of late.

If there's something physically wrong with Amare (which I seriously doubt) it's not showing in his level of play, which is usually the first clue to a physical problem.

Before microfracture he was killing Duncan in the West finals. After detaching his retina he scored 40 against the Clippers.

 

[devilalum]

Before microfracture he was killing Duncan in the West finals. After detaching his retina he scored 40 against the Clippers.

I would want a team of specialists to check out Amare before I gave him $50 million.

 

[azsportsfan01]

There is nothing wrong with Amare, but if you are going to trade for him and potentially give him a large sum of money you want to make sure of it. Every trade players take physicals for or have their medical records sent to the team. The Suns were trying to get around that so the deal would be done before the deadline came. This trade would have been awful. We are better off just keeping Amare.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

That request by the Suns (physical waiver) makes no sense. As long as the trade agreement reaches the league offices by the time of the deadline, the trade is valid pending physicals. It's not as if the physicals have to be completed by that exact time. I don't know if I'm prepared to say something is fishy, but we'll see....

 

[Mainstreet]

That request by the Suns (physical waiver) makes no sense. As long as the trade agreement reaches the league offices by the time of the deadline, the trade is valid pending physicals. It's not as if the physicals have to be completed by that exact time. I don't know if I'm prepared to say something is fishy, but we'll see....

I agree. Something is definitely fishy because players are usually required to pass physicals after completion of a trade. I've seen a lot of trades negated upon failed physicals so Houston would have been given ample time by the league office to examine Amare (unless Phoenix wanted the physical waived). Again something fishy when many of Amare's medical problems are common knowledge. Maybe the Suns knew Amare would not pass a physical and did not want to go through the publicity.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

If there was something wrong with Amare, would we not have heard, somewhere along the lines, that the Suns would want to wave the physicals on any trade made for Amare when the Cavs and Heat were pushing hard to get him?

 

[elindholm]

This could be a subtle ploy by the Suns' front office to keep the FA bidding for Stoudemire under control, now that they've sort of decided to keep him. Leak that he "might" be injured again, and scare off other suitors.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If there was something wrong with Amare, would we not have heard, somewhere along the lines, that the Suns would want to wave the physicals on any trade made for Amare when the Cavs and Heat were pushing hard to get him?

I think the deal must have included Barbosa and that's why. Plus, there just was not time to get any physicals done.

The Suns may have really wanted to do this deal. I wonder what picks were involved.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

This could be a subtle ploy by the Suns' front office to keep the FA bidding for Stoudemire under control, now that they've sort of decided to keep him. Leak that he "might" be injured again, and scare off other suitors.

That seems like it would require an intricacy of thought and foresight that this FO just doesn't have. This is almost conspiratorial....

I think the deal must have included Barbosa and that's why. Plus, there just was not time to get any physicals done.

The Suns may have really wanted to do this deal. I wonder what picks were involved.

Never considered that Barbosa could have been included, but I still don't think that's reason enough to request a physical waiver....

 

[The Commish]

Don't think physicals were the deal killer. Bet the FO had a tough time trading him to a western conference rival. I don't think that's something this team wants to do.

 

[Gaddabout]

This could be a subtle ploy by the Suns' front office to keep the FA bidding for Stoudemire under control, now that they've sort of decided to keep him. Leak that he "might" be injured again, and scare off other suitors.

That would be brilliantly sly and completely improbable it crossed the minds of our current front office heroes.

 

[devilalum]

That would be brilliantly sly and completely improbable it crossed the minds of our current front office heroes.

Serendipity

 

[AfroSuns]

This could be a subtle ploy by the Suns' front office to keep the FA bidding for Stoudemire under control, now that they've sort of decided to keep him. Leak that he "might" be injured again, and scare off other suitors.

I thought of that too and it is very likely. I doubt the Suns will try to avoid physicals because Amare is not 100%, it will only do more damage to an already crappy rep in the league.
By asking for physicals to be waived they are at least bringing to the fore the possibility Amare may not be 100%.

 

[Chaplin]

Could it have to do with them wanting the players available for tonight's game (if the trade went through)?