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The Suns would likely have to sweeten any trade to move Beal.
I have been joking, we get under the second apron waiving our non-guaranteed guys so we can aggregate salaries in a trade, then tell the teams that want Durant, look, we won't ask for any draft picks, or top players, just add up your junk guys for salary purposes. Our only demand is you take Beal along with Durant. LOL!

The joke part is, they would say, nah, we're giving you four first rounders and two good players back instead!!
 
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I have been joking, we get under the second apron waiving our non-guaranteed guys so we can aggregate salaries in a trade, then tell the teams that want Durant, look, we won't ask for any draft picks, or top players, just add up your junk guys for salary purposes. Our only demand is you take Beal along with Durant. LOL!

The joke part is, they would say, nah, we're giving you four first rounders and two good players back instead!!

I have a feeling the joke is on the Suns.
 
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How can coaches not talk about this?

Booker said, "We don't talk about the spacing on which a lot of those turnovers happen."

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How can coaches not talk about this?

Booker said, "We don't talk about the spacing on which a lot of those turnovers happen."

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IDK. Either Book is throwing the coaches under the bus, or he's not paying attention. How can the coaches NOT be talking about the turn overs after this long into the season. The spacing, recognition of when a guy is open or not to pass to them, etc. It would be almost insane to think the coaches have not talked about the turn overs.
 

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I know with Tyus, Book, etc, maybe the plays and starting them from certain spots is overemphasized. Whoever starts the offense, gets to the top of the key area, then stops their dribble, and then tries to pass to KD. It's not just Book. They ALL do it. IDK if basketball has changed, but you never pick up your dribble unless a guy is open to pass to, or you are shooting the ball. They go to that spot, Tyus, Book, Beal, etc, stop their dribble and try and throw a long entry pass to KD holding off a guy trying to post. You see it EVERY game, several times, and it's almost always a turn over. Whatever it is they are trying to run, just not doing THAT would cut out turn overs.

Guys picking up their dribble for no reason just gets them swarmed and then they force a bad pass. They do this all over the court. Guys seem to have spots they want to pass from, like they have shooting spots, and you see them dribble right to the same spots for them all the time, and then just pick up their dribble, and then finally look for an open guy as their last thing they do. Instead of looking for open guys and mismatches, dribbling to those areas and making the open pass. It's stop dribble, then start looking for an open guy.
 
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IDK. Either Book is throwing the coaches under the bus, or he's not paying attention. How can the coaches NOT be talking about the turn overs after this long into the season. The spacing, recognition of when a guy is open or not to pass to them, etc. It would be almost insane to think the coaches have not talked about the turn overs.

I think Booker is to the point of just laying the facts out there. The media should be all over this.

If true, Bud should have been gone already.

My guess is it will be smoothed over until the offseason.
 

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I think Booker is to the point of just laying the facts out there. The media should be all over this.

If true, Bud should have been gone already.

My guess is it will be smoothed over until the offseason.
This should be all over the valley sports news. I think people are so fatigued by the Suns performances, they stopped caring. Media, too.
 
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This should be all over the valley sports news. I think people are so fatigued by the Suns performances, they stopped caring. Media, too.

It follows the players feel much the same. This is why I wanted an interim head coach to see the player's response to the change.
 

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Not to counter the argument but it seems like it can’t always be the coaches issue….can it? Book has been a common denominator….

I’m sure it’s more complex, but it’s just been a weird few years
 
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Not to counter the argument but it seems like it can’t always be the coaches issue….can it? Book has been a common denominator….

I’m sure it’s more complex, but it’s just been a weird few years

It's usually a combination of factors. The common denominator played in the Finals and was part of a 64 win season.

I cringe to think of the Suns blaming their pile of garbage on their last good player. Durant was supposed to be their #1 and Beal the third star.

What happened to that? And does James Jones and Mat Ishbia get a free pass for blowing up the team in 2023?

Do they say OOPS or NEVER MIND and everyone forgets the blunders…
 

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at over $200 million??
Yeah but how much of that $200 million is actually on the floor most nights lol always someone or usually multiple people out all damn season! Never gonna build any continuity when you can’t even run a lineup for a few weeks. Start of the season went pretty good until injury after injury… But mostly the point was many atrocious Suns teams in the last people must have very short memories…
 
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Yeah but how much of that $200 million is actually on the floor most nights lol always someone or usually multiple people out all damn season! Never gonna build any continuity when you can’t even run a lineup for a few weeks. Start of the season went pretty good until injury after injury… But mostly the point was many atrocious Suns teams in the last people must have very short memories…

What is unique about the Suns is they destroyed their present and future at the same time.
 

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Yeah but how much of that $200 million is actually on the floor most nights lol always someone or usually multiple people out all damn season! Never gonna build any continuity when you can’t even run a lineup for a few weeks. Start of the season went pretty good until injury after injury… But mostly the point was many atrocious Suns teams in the last people must have very short memories…
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Injuries aren’t an excuse when the players you acquire were injury-prone before you acquired them.
 

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at over $200 million??
To be fair, salaries keep going up, so past teams can't compete with that number. In the history of the Suns, this franchise has won a lot of games. There have been some individual seasons that have been worse than this. I think the distinction is that some of those teams had no expectations to be good. This team is supposed to be good. The other teams didn't have the skills to win. This one has a lot of skilled players and is way underachieving. I would say this era is the most frustrating.
 
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