Suns sign Louis Amundson

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Sounds like he will push Amare in practice.

Ha, maybe they signed him to beat on Diaw in practice.

I assume this means Marks is not coming back. Clearly, the Suns are moving away from the finesse game with the players we are getting this summer.

There is a very clear philosophy change in personnel.
 
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so,
Diaw will be a SF now?

No. Amundson is an end of the bench player at best, a hustler with a very limited skill set, a practice body. Signing him should have no effect on Diaw in anyway.
 

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I've liked Amundson since his College days and he also impressed, what was it last year against the Suns in Summer League game...


Hopefully Dragic is next.
 

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Don't worry Andrew, many here pretend to know more than they actually do.
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There is a very clear philosophy change in personnel.

yup, good defenders play good defense, its the way that guys like addelman(rockets) have good defensive teams without being a "good defensive coach". Even guys that are good defensive coaches(POPs larry brown) go after good defenders rather than teach mediocre defenders to be "good". I now believe that the suns will be better defensively because they have more good defenders who can play.
 

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It is also making it apparent just how wide the philosophical gap was between Kerr and D'Antoni.
 

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It is also making it apparent just how wide the philosophical gap was between Kerr and D'Antoni.

DA surely would have loved to have barnes, and I expect he would have played as his most production was playing small ball. DA did push for raja bell, a very good defender, but he also had a very good outside shot. The philosophy differences will be apparent if DJ or tucker gets major burn time and player development is successful. DA also would probably have drafted someone other than lopez who can play better offense, like speichts, or perhaps a shooter like donte green. The bench is obviously deeper with barnes, so the suns are already better than last year. My concern is that the backup PG problem still sits out there. Kerr has not addressed that issue as GM in the past few years, just like DA. If Kerr uses LB as the backup PG, he will look just like DA in that area.
 
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I don't remember Gallinari being described as a great defender.

http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/danilogallinari.html
His legs are stiff which makes his movements seem a bit awkward and it takes away from his quickness … While he has good height, he is strictly a perimeter player as he has minimal back to the basket moves and his weak frame also makes him a non threat in the post … His rebounding numbers are only decent, for a player at his position, getting major minutes, they should be higher … Defensively he is a liability; he gambles too much, plays with his hands down and is undisciplined … Marginal foot speed and a weak body will leave his opponents salivating in excitement to abuse the mismatch …
 

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Clearly, the Suns are moving away from the finesse game with the players we are getting this summer.

There is a very clear philosophy change in personnel.

Exactly! I am really liking what Kerr is doing. I realize this guy is not a significant player, but it clearly shows the change in philosophy.
 

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http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/30282

A little more on Amundson


Louis Amundson may wind up hardly playing this season but it's August and we're still waiting for word on Goran Dragic. So flushing out a little more on Louis Amundson is all that is fresh halfway between draft night and reporting day.

The first words out of the mouth of Vice President of Basketball Operations David Griffin on Amundson were: "defensive intensity, a toughness, a kind of unbridled enthusiasm."

He added, "It goes along with the theme that we began the summer with by drafting Robin Lopez."

Amundson went to NBA Summer League with Golden State, thinking he might latch on permanently there. But between drafting Anthony Randolph and signing another highly caffeinated power forward, Ronny Turiaf, it probably wasn't going to work out on a Golden State team that is at the max for its roster.

Amundson said he wanted to end up in Golden State or Phoenix because of their uptempo systems.

"I'm really comfortable with coming here," Amundson said in spite of not knowing any teammates, coaches or executives personally. "When things didn't work out with Golden State, they were right there."

Any negative reaction to Amundson's signing seems to be misguided. When filling out the end of the bench, you're not going to get too much impact with offers of minimum money and minimum playing time. Amundson has a high motor when he is on the floor and is versatile enough to guard some 3s and 5s at times. Griffin feels like he's an underrated offensive player as well. Amundson said his jump shot has improved. All that may prove true to have an in-game impact, especially if Shaquille O'Neal misses a bunch of games, but his intensity and work ethic can at least be good for practices.

"I haven't really got a chance to display any of that," Amundson said of his offensive improvement. "I understand that, especially here, they're not going to look to me for a lot of offense. I really like to get out and run. With my athleticism and ability to run, an untraditional offense fits me well."

These hard-working types that Phoenix has chased seem to fit the overachiever mold. Amundson wasn't highly recruited out of high school (he lived in Boulder and Colorado did not recruit him). It's a state not known for many hoopsters besides Chauncey Billups and Tom Chambers, who went to Amundson's rival school. Amundson had to work his way into a starting job as a junior (7.8 ppg, 7.5 rpg) at UNLV and did not break out until he was a senior (14.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg).

"We haven't had tenacious, nasty guys," Suns General Manager Steve Kerr said. "I think Robin Lopez is that way. Louis is that way. Matt Barnes is that way. We're trying to complement our guys."

Amudnson is a smart guy too but Suns brass cares more that he's got on-court traits like determination, length and another guy who does not need the ball. The latter was a big plus for drafting Lopez on a team with plenty of players who need the ball in their hands to thrive. Guys who rebound and block shots are a plus, although Brian Skinner did both of those things well and is not back.

When Utah signed Amundson to his first 10-day contract while Carlos Boozer was hurt in 2007, Kevin O'Connor described him as a "live body" and he meant more than his pulse.

Amundson gets it. He's going to come to Phoenix early and probably be one of the last guys on the court each day. He is a niche player who may be a spark plug now and then, coming in to take charges and make hustle plays like chasing down that offensive rebound a 35-minute player doesn't pursue. He just got his first taste of a full NBA season and likely has learned something about camp, playing 82 games and the postseason atmosphere.

Amundson flew home Thursday but will be back next week to get a jump start on preparing for the season. Most players show up for voluntary pickup games at USAC after Labor Day but Amare Stoudemire, Boris Diaw, D.J. Strawberry and Alando Tucker already have been getting in workouts. Other players with school-age kids, like Grant Hill and Shaquille O'Neal, will be in soon too.
 

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Boris diaw is coming in for workouts already? now there's a headline.
 

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any clip of this guy in an nba game?

Probably not. He played on some slow break teams in the NBA.

As a type of player, the profiles reminds me a lot of
Eduardo Najera. Similar size and role. Mostly an insdie shooter (49.3%). In Denver Najera averaged over 20 minutes a game. Only this past year had Najera became a three point shooter at 36.1% (53 of 147)


Read Hoopshype description of Najera (6'8 235)
http://hoopshype.com/players/eduardo_najera.htm

A hustle player... Good rebounder, especially on the offensive end... Usually a fan favorite... Doesn't try to do too much offensively... Gets some garbage baskets... Can hit the three-pointer now
 

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Having a Najera type of player would be great for garbage time versus sub .500 teams and getting more energy and toughness for our second unit. I seriously doubt he's as strong as Najera though.

If he can steal a bunch of minutes from Boris that could be good, if this spurs (sorry about that word) Boris into waking up and playing hard on the court, instead of dozing off on the bench looking at honnies.
 

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Probably not. He played on some slow break teams in the NBA.

As a type of player, the profiles reminds me a lot of
Eduardo Najera. Similar size and role. Mostly an insdie shooter (49.3%). In Denver Najera averaged over 20 minutes a game. Only this past year had Najera became a three point shooter at 36.1% (53 of 147)


Read Hoopshype description of Najera (6'8 235)
http://hoopshype.com/players/eduardo_najera.htm


oh,i would definitely like if his style is similar to najera.he's a very good defender,does a lot of dirty work,likes physical play.it'll help amare and shaq rest
 

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Lopez and Dragic have not lived up to our hopes so far, but I think Amundson has.

Tonight 20 minues, 9 poionts on 4 of 5 shooting, 1 assist, 5 rebounds 0.25 rebounds per minute (best per minute on the team). He does need to work on his free throw shooting.
 

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