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This is what I like most about the internet. Back in the 90s after games while riding home and stuck in traffic, you could tune in to KTAR and listen to people call in. You'd always get overly emotional, knee jerk responses that would make me laugh. I'm assuming those calls navigated to the internet.

Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton!
 

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Ayton's always been a known bad defender. I am honestly shocked that he is not worse than he is. Anybody who watched two Arizona games without the blinders on knew Ayton would be awful defensively. Bender's biggest problem is that he doesn't have a heart. Contrary to what folks like Slin say, he is actually good defensively. He understands how rotations work, he understands how pick and roll works, he understands how to be in a proper defensive position. Part of the Bender hype was his defense. If he could get a heart on offense, he'd be a hell of a player.

As for the rebounding question, it's effort. Just like defense, they can do it, they just tend to not do it, or at least, not consistently.
Yeah, this is why I don't think Ayton should be starting. The Suns would have much more consistent starts with Holmes then with Ayton.

But Holmes must be resigned and they have 5 years to develop Ayton, so that's their bottom line. Ayton starts regardless of poor team rests.

With the year in the ****can, why not continue to see if there are any advantages to giving Bender more minutes at PF.
 

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What a ridiculous comment...

Booker has regularly been our best performer in big moments and he has a couple bad moments and he needs to be pulled? Ridiculous.
This isn't his first game when he had terrible moments late in a game.

If he gets benched then perhaps he'll get the message on making the right play and not being so careless with the ball.
 

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This isn't his first game when he had terrible moments late in a game.

If he gets benched then perhaps he'll get the message on making the right play and not being so careless with the ball.

Book is a Shooting Guard, damnit! He has taken one for the Suns due to ineffective team management constantly turning over.

For that you want to bench our star offensive player. How about "benching" the butt-hole who put him in this predicament.

And, unless he miraculously gets added to the All Star team despite being 10th in backcourt voting (the last time I heard),
Book is being "benched" from the All Star recognition he deserves as a Shooting Guard.

It looks like you got your wish. Be a Suns fan, sunsfan, and consider showing appreciation for the sacrifices Devin Booker
(the 22 year old) has made for our team.

Bench Butthead Sarver!!! :)
 

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Book is a Shooting Guard, damnit! He has taken one for the Suns due to ineffective team management constantly turning over.

For that you want to bench our star offensive player. How about "benching" the butt-hole who put him in this predicament.

And, unless he miraculously gets added to the All Star team despite being 10th in backcourt voting (the last time I heard),
Book is being "benched" from the All Star recognition he deserves as a Shooting Guard.

It looks like you got your wish. Be a Suns fan, sunsfan, and consider showing appreciation for the sacrifices Devin Booker
(the 22 year old) has made for our team.

Bench Butthead Sarver!!! :)
Yeah he’s a SG but that doesn’t mean late in games, the star players handle the ball and need to learn to handle it well. LeBron handles, Harden handles it, Giannis, Kawhi, Oladipo etc handle the ball and are expected to make decisions with it late in games. So Booker will be relief upon in the future to do that as well since he’s gonna be our star player so these bad habits need to be corrected one way or the other.
 

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Ayton's always been a known bad defender. I am honestly shocked that he is not worse than he is. Anybody who watched two Arizona games without the blinders on knew Ayton would be awful defensively. Bender's biggest problem is that he doesn't have a heart. Contrary to what folks like Slin say, he is actually good defensively. He understands how rotations work, he understands how pick and roll works, he understands how to be in a proper defensive position. Part of the Bender hype was his defense. If he could get a heart on offense, he'd be a hell of a player.

As for the rebounding question, it's effort. Just like defense, they can do it, they just tend to not do it, or at least, not consistently.

Thanks for making my day fun.
 

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$158,000,000.00 is a hell of a sacrifice.....I agree with you though..
 

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Book is a Shooting Guard, damnit! He has taken one for the Suns due to ineffective team management constantly turning over.

For that you want to bench our star offensive player. How about "benching" the butt-hole who put him in this predicament.

And, unless he miraculously gets added to the All Star team despite being 10th in backcourt voting (the last time I heard),
Book is being "benched" from the All Star recognition he deserves as a Shooting Guard.

It looks like you got your wish. Be a Suns fan, sunsfan, and consider showing appreciation for the sacrifices Devin Booker
(the 22 year old) has made for our team.

Bench Butthead Sarver!!! :)

Fire the President!
Tell the sun not to shine!
End all war!
 

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Ha! I remember that guy! He used to be on the radio in Phoenix in the late 70's and early 80's

Yeah, the first thing he did when he came to Phoenix was to pick a war with someone that did a sports show on KOY (John Moynihan maybe?) because IIRC the guy made fun of his "this just in on the high speed sportswire" routine. He also had the radio job for ASU football (there's 30 seconds left on the Longines clock). He left in the early/mid 80's and went to work for the Mighty 690 in San Diego and I used to listen to him while I made my morning commute. First time I heard of Jim Rome he was doing a Spring Training update for Hacksaw's show in the late 80's.
 

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What good does benching Booker do, honestly? Will it help us win a couple games? I don't think so. Even if it did, what does that really matter if our future isn't out on the floor learning to win because like it or not, Booker is this team's future. You don't pay a guy max money coming off of a rookie contract to sit him because he cost a last place team a game in January, a game that wouldn't have moved the Suns anywhere on the standings either, because he made a couple bad turnovers after returning from injury 2-3 games ago. That is just ridiculous.

I got an idea, let's trade for a 32 year old player so we can make our record look better than it was last year because that's all that matters right? The perception that we improved because our record says it did. Were the Warriors the best team ever when they won 73 games? No. Regular season is a time to learn and improve for when games matter down the line. We're probably going to lose more games than the year we had Dragic, Beasley, Shannon Brown, Scola, and Gortat here but I wouldn't trade this team for that one any day of the week. I'd rather have the 2019 Suns than the 2012 Suns, that's for damn sure. I know this team will be better next year. They need time and consistency and shuffling the rotation because one loss in January where Booker made stupid mistakes in the final minute won't matter in the large scope of things.

It sucks that our games mean nothing right now in terms of wins and losses but this is how a team handles things after acquiring a lot of youth, it develops them and teaches them how to play together and hopefully win. To do that the players that are the future need to play and if they make mistakes, so be it! Hope that the coaching staff is able to teach them from it so down the line they will perform better in similar situations. This year isn't a "similar situation" either, this year is lost, it's all about developing chemistry and consistency.

The team is improving but it needs more time to grow into a team that can compete with others night in and night out. Any shortsighted fix so you can feel happy about a meaningless win means nothing right now. No games this year really matter. Does that mean I think they should lose out? Of course not but I'm not going to get angry and call for all these drastic changes when a game that doesn't matter results in a loss if we see our players improve from it and we have seen improvement all year. If you haven't seen improvement that's because you're watching the score instead of the actual game that they play. I don't mean not watching the game like Slin doesn't watch the game either, I mean actually watching the intangibles that our players do that won't show up in a box score and that you see teams like the Warriors, Spurs, or Boston execute all the time, seamlessly on both sides of the ball.
 

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This isn't his first game when he had terrible moments late in a game.

If he gets benched then perhaps he'll get the message on making the right play and not being so careless with the ball.
You think he is intentionally being careless with the ball? Or that he doesn't already want to clean up his decisions late in games? I would guess that Booker is fully blaming himself for yesterday's loss as it is and is likely studying film to help him not make the same mistakes again.
 
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In regard to Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton I could visualize news coming in on the high speed sports wire much like a ticker tape. Whether it was real or not I didn't care. He made sports news exciting. It was almost like following twitter personalities today except on radio.
 

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In regard to Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton I could visualize news coming in on the high speed sports wire much like a ticker tape. Whether it was real or not I didn't care. He made sports news exciting. It was almost like following twitter personalities today except on radio.
Loved his style.

"I want to talk sports with you!"
 

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In regard to Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton I could visualize news coming in on the high speed sports wire much like a ticker tape. Whether it was real or not I didn't care. He made sports news exciting. It was almost like following twitter personalities today except on radio.

Well, it was sort of real, it was just the AP or UPI wire. He was definitely entertaining and brought something we'd never had in Arizona, a real sports talk show. He was also active in the community at the time. I remember playing in a charity tennis event with him in 82 or so at the grand opening of one of the Pointe Hotels. Big voice but he's much smaller in real life.
 

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