Suns @ Timberwolves Tuesday Playoff game thread 4-23-2024 - Game 2

[GatorAZ]

The thing is, who cares what Amare did one-on-one to Tim Duncan? because none of that helped the Suns actually defeat the Spurs.

I was always incredulous at the fact that AS averaged 37 PPG against the Spurs in the 2005 WCF, yet the Spurs slaughtered that Suns team. By making Stoudemire's 37 PPG useless to the final scores, the Spurs absolutely made a monkey of Stoudemire and his great offensive power (and any domination of Tim Duncan). I also felt ridiculous. Why? for initially feeling impressed at the 37 PPG. Cleverness and skill almost always defeat sheer power and athleticism. The Spurs just laughed at the Suns in 2005.

Actually those games were close and it took a ridiculous defensive play by Amare to not get swept. Although I’m not sure why you hold that against Amare when Marion was atrocious that entire series.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We have three world class players and yet we have each of them play ISO basketball. It's so dumb. Move the ball around and one of those guys will have a much easier shot or Allen or O'Neale will be wide open. It's basketball 101. Come on. MOVE THE BALL. Sheesh.

Having guys that are excellent one-on-one offensive players should be a luxury for when the clock runs down. They are all excellent shooters, particularly midrange, and still competent 3 point shooters. A motion offense should play to the collective strengths of this team and yet we see so little of it.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

We have three world class players and yet we have each of them play ISO basketball. It's so dumb. Move the ball around and one of those guys will have a much easier shot or Allen or O'Neale will be wide open. It's basketball 101. Come on. MOVE THE BALL. Sheesh.

Kevin Young won't be missed.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Kevin Young won't be missed.

While I won’t weep if we change the coaching staff, we should be careful in pinning all this seasons foibles on the staff. This team has shown a lack of fire and basketball IQ that’s alarming.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Two words: Bruce...Bowen. I excuse Marion because I remember hearing that Bowen guarded him. If you are being guarded by a player who is willing to do things he should get banned from the NBA (and possibly sent to jail) for, what can you do? (When I say that, I am thinking of Bowen kicking the Timberwolves' Wally Sczerbiak in the head. That was when I realized Bowen's on-court behavior was reprehensible and he had no business in the NBA.)

No. They hid Parker on Marion because he was so ineffectual. Bowen hounded nash.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Superbone]

While I won’t weep if we change the coaching staff, we should be careful in pinning all this seasons foibles on the staff. This team has shown a lack of fire and basketball IQ that’s alarming.

Agreed. The coaches aren't the ones actually playing. You can't blame them for everything. I'm happy with Beal's consistency. Just wish he was a little more greedy offensively. Durant and Booker are often too cool for school. I think that's what bugs so many of us. If not now, when?

 

[Superbone]

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That passes the eye test. His defense on Booker was high level. He was like a second skin for Booker. Let's see what adjustments we make, if any.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

That passes the eye test. His defense on Booker was high level. He was like a second skin for Booker. Let's see what adjustments we make, if any.

I was surprised they weren't setting more screens to get McDaniels on someone else. Maybe that was too complicated for this staff.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Two words: Bruce...Bowen. I excuse Marion because I remember hearing that Bowen guarded him. If you are being guarded by a player who is willing to do things he should get banned from the NBA (and possibly sent to jail) for, what can you do? (When I say that, I am thinking of Bowen kicking the Timberwolves' Wally Sczerbiak in the head. That was when I realized Bowen's on-court behavior was reprehensible and he had no business in the NBA.)

Bowen didn’t guard Marion. They put Bowen on Nash to frustrate the hell out of him. They hid Tony Parker on Marion and he was an abomination averaging 8 points a game on a game he had 6 inches on.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No. They hid Parker on Marion because he was so ineffectual. Bowen hounded nash.

Borg.

 

[Mainstreet]

Thaddeus Young needs some minutes!

Frank Vogel needs some convincing. The Suns aren't going anywhere without something resembling a bench.

 

[nashman]

Frank Vogel needs some convincing. The Suns aren't going anywhere without something resembling a bench.

Yeah it’s crazy he keeps forcing freaking Eubanks in games….

 

[Dan H]

Honestly can’t get excited.

I had entertained some hope that they were just on cruise control for the regular season. Now, not so much.

 

[Ronin]

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[GatorAZ]

Bowen didn’t guard Marion. They put Bowen on Nash to frustrate the hell out of him. They hid Tony Parker on Marion and he was an abomination averaging 8 points a game on a game he had 6 inches on.

Nash still outplayed Parker but JJ was third in total points even though he missed two games. Total know show from everyone else while the Spurs always had role players like Bowen, Barry and Horry making an impact.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nash still outplayed Parker but JJ was third in total points even though he missed two games. Total know show from everyone else while the Spurs always had role players like Bowen, Barry and Horry making an impact.

Yup.

 

[Proximo]

Thaddeus Young needs some minutes!

Oh come on, please don’t tell me anybody actually believes this would make any meaningful difference.

The “big 3“ have to all play worthy of that moniker, that is all that matters.

 

[nashman]

Oh come on, please don’t tell me anybody actually believes this would make any meaningful difference.

The “big 3“ have to all play worthy of that moniker, that is all that matters.

Yeah it matters lol Eubanks is worthless and doesn’t know how to rebound! Playing him automatically loses us rebounds he just smacks at the ball like a dumb poo! Thad knows how to block out and can put back works well around the rim, this is common sense but our coach likes to force Drew when it doesn’t even work!

 

[Suns_fan69]

The Suns offense completely bog down once they find a 'mismatch'. They then proceed to iso that mismatch; sometimes the other team doubles and the offense looks good playing out of it, more often they don't and it's just a tough midrange jumper over and over. Beal is the only one that makes a concerted effort to go to the rim every chance on those mismatches.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I was surprised they weren't setting more screens to get McDaniels on someone else. Maybe that was too complicated for this staff.

That was my thought immediately. Why the hell aren’t they screening him off book?!?

 

[nashman]

That was my thought immediately. Why the hell aren’t they screening him off book?!?

Poor coaching and adjustments same garbage we been seeing from Vogel all year. Literally can watch a lineup work great then not ever go back to it…. Mind boggling!

 

[DeAnna]

Currently in Taipei - have only encountered 2 people that speak conversational English and both asked about the Suns, lol.