Suns vs Grizzlies 5pm 7/13/17

StreetTruckinTitan · Jul 13, 2017

James was the hero and zero all in the same game.

ColdPickleNachos · Jul 13, 2017

Mike James was fantastic the past two games, but he needs to get past this hero-ball crap.

Ouchie-Z-Clown · Jul 13, 2017

And that's why James sucks. Waves jj awaythe. Plays hero ball and makes a bad pass to a crashing jj.

Mainstreet · Jul 13, 2017

NativeAZfan said:
James was the hero and zero all in the same game.

James didn't want Josh Jackson at the top of the key setting a pick. He wanted to go one on one.

Too bad. Tough loss.

ColdPickleNachos · Jul 13, 2017

When James doesn't make it all about him, he is excellent. Seemed like he learned that lesson, but reverted back when it mattered.

Push comes to shove, the hope for this team was for Jackson and Reed to flash as good picks and to see improvement in Bender.

Seems like a success in all three cases.

mjb21aztd · Jul 13, 2017

Dang bad mistake on the last play but the suns young players played pretty well.

Now lets get onto the real season.

GatorAZ · Jul 13, 2017

RIP Hamilton should be a color commentator in the big leagues. He's seems to be very knowledgeable and speaks well.

Mainstreet · Jul 13, 2017

NativeAZfan said:
I blame the coaches for that. They obviously gave him the green light to play the outside. Apparently they think this 7 fter shouldnt play inside?

Last season, I do not think Bender had the strength to play inside. This may be why he took so many 3's.

This season he has added more weight and appears stronger. The coaches should definitely expand his game. I was glad to see him play more of an all-around game in summer league. Hopefully this should carry over to the regular season.

JCSunsfan · Jul 14, 2017

I am so tired of hero ball pg play in the NBA. It's happening everywhere. Everyone thinks he is Steph. Give me a pass first pg every day. Much more entertaining to watch.

ColdPickleNachos · Jul 14, 2017

JCSunsfan said:
I am so tired of hero ball pg play in the NBA. It's happening everywhere. Everyone thinks he is Steph. Give me a pass first pg every day. Much more entertaining to watch.

Agreed 100%.

The Summer League Suns coach, Marlon Garnett, had a quote about telling James he needs to be a "floor general" to succeed. It was clear he was following that direction the last two games, and it made all the difference in the way the team played. With the game on the line, he reverted back to old habits and the Suns paid for it.

I have never regretted losing IT for this reason (although we DEFINITELY sold too low), and it's a big part of why I'm so high on Ulis.

I think Bledsoe is somewhere in between. He's a willing passer, but not necessarily gifted at creating opportunities for teammates.

JS22 · Jul 14, 2017

I think I'm most excited about Bender than anyone else after this game. If he can put it all together over the next few years he's got a chance to be as good, or better, than Porzingis.

Its rare to see a 7'1" guy move as fluidly as he does. He can hit the jumper, drive, handle the ball, make great passes, defend, rebound, nearly everything. 20 points is solid but just watching him play you can tell he's got so much untapped potential.

1:54, 2:17 and 2:48.

You don't see many 7'1" guys move that well and be able to finish.

SirStefan32 · Jul 14, 2017

I love his passing/ play making.

devilalum · Jul 14, 2017

How many of you new Bender enthusiasts were ready to give up on him a couple of months ago? He showed glimpses last year. Based on this summer league I've moved him ahead of Chriss. Hopefully they both turn into All Stars.

SirStefan32 · Jul 14, 2017

I don't think anyone changed their mind drastically. For the ones who are convinced he is a bust, a couple of summer league games are not going to change their mind. I also don't think the other group are "enthusiasts". Rather, we think he is a very talented young man who may or may not "figure it out" and become a good player.

JS22 · Jul 14, 2017

devilalum said:
How many of you new Bender enthusiasts were ready to give up on him a couple of months ago? He showed glimpses last year. Based on this summer league I've moved him ahead of Chriss. Hopefully they both turn into All Stars.

I was 50/50 on Bender. Then he got hurt. Last season was basically wasted. He has been up and down in the SL but he shows so many flashes of being great. Hard not to be excited.

JCSunsfan · Jul 14, 2017

I have always been high on Bender. I have been optimistic about Chriss too, but more so Bender. To me, his defense gives him the edge over Chriss.

I want Bender to get the minutes Chriss got last year.

leclerc · Jul 14, 2017

Go Bender! His weight is pretty good now. Just needs to build confidence and aggressiveness. Hope he gets plenty of minutes with Ulis, A1 and Reed. Looking forward to the season. Play hard, play to win.

Errntknght · Jul 14, 2017

I thought Bender was a reach when we picked him and, later, I thought the Porzingis comparisons were far-fetched but I was never among those who were writing him off. I hope Slin shows up again so I can rib him unmercifully how far wrong he was on Bender. This could be fun for years...

3rdside · Jul 14, 2017

Errntknght said:
I thought Bender was a reach when we picked him and, later, I thought the Porzingis comparisons were far-fetched but I was never among those who were writing him off. I hope Slin shows up again so I can rib him unmercifully how far wrong he was on Bender. This could be fun for years...

And he hated ball ... or at least thought fultz was a far superior player.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

JCSunsfan · Jul 14, 2017

3rdside said:
And he hated ball ... or at least thought fultz was a far superior player.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A number of us went round and round with Slin about Ball. I argued that Ball and Fultz were very close. He wanted to say that Fultz was far superior.

mjb21aztd · Jul 14, 2017

I like bender upside it didnt look good early against memphis but he really got going in the 2nd half! I like how quick his 3 pt release is he will get better in post moves as he gets more pt.

Suns may not win a ton of gm next year but they will be a fun young team

. Hope i am wrong on the wins btw.

Bodha · Jul 14, 2017

Wheres that white guy we drafted? I heard he can shoot

Errntknght · Jul 14, 2017

Bodha said:
Wheres that white guy we drafted? I heard he can shoot

Injured

3rdside · Jul 14, 2017

JCSunsfan said:
A number of us went round and round with Slin about Ball. I argued that Ball and Fultz were very close. He wanted to say that Fultz was far superior.

My big board was ball #1 fultz #2 and it wasn't even close. And Jackson at #3 - who was pushing Fultz for #2 but for the fairly large gulf in stats - I loved because of his playmaking and assists from a forward position; reckon he's a good chance to get > 5 a game in a couple years time.

Not that we need to go into again but it's the not-making-teammates-better thing that turned me off fultz, the total opposite of suns players like Nash and Kidd.

Ouchie-Z-Clown · Jul 14, 2017

Ball certainly looks like the difference maker some of us thought he'd be. I still hope for the lakers' sake that he's not it very good once real games start

Suns vs Grizzlies 5pm 7/13/17

You talkin' to me?

ASFN Lifer

I'm better than Mulli!

Cruisin' Mainstreet

ASFN Lifer

ASFN Icon

feed hopkins

Cruisin' Mainstreet

ASFN Icon

ASFN Lifer

Say Vandelay!

Krycek, Alex Krycek

Heavily Redacted

Krycek, Alex Krycek

Say Vandelay!

ASFN Icon

The smooth operator

Registered User

Hall of Famer

ASFN Icon

ASFN Icon

ASFN Addict

Registered User

Hall of Famer

I'm better than Mulli!

Similar threads

Forum statistics