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Plumlee looking really good early in the 1st QTR.
 
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Fesenko is killing Plumlee now.
 

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Wow. Alot of bad basketball in this game. Plumlee is having to cover alot more than Fesenko. I would only call it killing him if he was able to guard him one on one.
 

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Archie Goodwin does not have the summer league we were expecting but it might have to do something that this team has no spacing at all.

Nobody is a 3pt threat on this team.
 

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Summer league is ugly ugly terrible horrible basketball. However... I can say, if you leave Warren even a tiny window around the basket, he will score.
 
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I think Seth Curry has outplayed Ennis so far in summer league.
 

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Curry is 4 years older, he probably should outplay Ennis. And I dont really care that Curry is hitting jumpers against guys not bothering to play defense. Ennis is clearly a far better passer.

Curry does one thing at a decent rate, shoot, and I think against legit competition he lacks the ability to get good looks.
 
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Plumlee getting owned by Fesenko.
 

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Archie Goodwin does not have the summer league we were expecting but it might have to do something that this team has no spacing at all.

Nobody is a 3pt threat on this team.

That's true. Other than maybe Curry none of these guys are very good from deep. But that's one of the skills that Goodwin needs to develop. He really needs to get into the weight room and he has to improve his outside shot and his shot selection. He took some early-in-the-clock bad shots throughout this tournament that I'm sure irritated his coaches. He still shows worlds of talent but he also shows how far he is from being ready.

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Wolves beat #Suns 86-77 in tourney opener. Warren: 26 pts; Harris: 16 pts, 6 reb, 3-5 3s; Plumlee: 10 pts, 12 reb; Goodwin+Ennis: 0-10 FG.
 
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Ennis is looking a lot like Kendall Marshall. Can run control the tempo of an offense and can pass well but can't score, defend or rebound and seems like he doesn't have much athleticism at all.
 

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I thought he defended pretty well. He didn't score because he was distributing. He is much faster than Marshall.

TJ is just so consistent.

Call me Scrooge. I don't like Christmas. Don't want to see him on our regular season roster any more.
 
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I thought he defended pretty well. He didn't score because he was distributing. He is much faster than Marshall.

TJ is just so consistent.

Call me Scrooge. I don't like Christmas. Don't want to see him on our regular season roster any more.

I don't think he will be. There's no room for another guard.

Dragic, Bledsoe, Thomas, Goodwin, Ennis, and Green even though Green can play SF as well. There's no room for Xmas.
 

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The #Suns will close their Summer League play with a consolation game Friday against Dallas at 1 p.m.
 

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Ennis is looking a lot like Kendall Marshall. Can run control the tempo of an offense and can pass well but can't score, defend or rebound and seems like he doesn't have much athleticism at all.

He looks a lot like a Kendall Marshall with a little more quickness. That's all that Kendall needs to become an above average starter in this league.

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I missed today's game unfortunately. The big surprise for me, looking at the stats, was the lack of production from Archie Goodwin. He should have scored more than 2 points on sheer athletic ability.

I always thought Kyrylo Fesenko would be a nice player to have on the bench but he never seems to produce much during the regular season. Still I wouldn't mind if the Suns gave him a look.
 

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I missed today's game unfortunately. The big surprise for me, looking at the stats, was the lack of production from Archie Goodwin. He should have scored more than 2 points on sheer athletic ability.

I always thought Kyrylo Fesenko would be a nice player to have on the bench but he never seems to produce much during the regular season.

I wonder if we could get him for the Minnesota pick. I have no idea, maybe he's valued much more highly than that. But he'd be a nice fill-in against the NBA bullies that stomped on us last year and look to do so again this season.

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I missed today's game unfortunately. The big surprise for me, looking at the stats, was the lack of production from Archie Goodwin. He should have scored more than 2 points on sheer athletic ability.

I always thought Kyrylo Fesenko would be a nice player to have on the bench but he never seems to produce much during the regular season. Still I wouldn't mind if the Suns gave him a look.

Archie played worse than the stats showed. He was out of control, ran into his own players with his head down, turned the ball over. He was a mess.

Fesenko is, well, fat. He has a 12 inch vertical. Literally. He went up to block a shot--full leaping mode--and his feet got no more than 12 inches off the floor. I cannot believe he could hold up for a full season, and if he played the regular Suns they would absolutely run him out of the gym.

This team was much slower because both teams were constantly turning the ball over and stopping play. Committing fouls, throwing passes away, dribbling off their feet.
 

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Archie played worse than the stats showed. He was out of control, ran into his own players with his head down, turned the ball over. He was a mess.

Fesenko is, well, fat. He has a 12 inch vertical. Literally. He went up to block a shot--full leaping mode--and his feet got no more than 12 inches off the floor. I cannot believe he could hold up for a full season, and if he played the regular Suns they would absolutely run him out of the gym.

This team was much slower because both teams were constantly turning the ball over and stopping play. Committing fouls, throwing passes away, dribbling off their feet.

He's never going to be a star, not even a starter, but I wouldn't mind having him as a third string backup center. If you get some weight off him and get him into shape he might even be able to be a regular rotation player.

Steve
 

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