Suns @ Warriors Friday game thread 12-3-2021

[Russ Smith]

Wrong. You’re just wrong Russ. We’ve heard it from local and National announcers. It’s not part of the new rules.

So why did the ref tell Paul that's not a foul when he did it to Payton?

 

[Yuma]

Crowder had his off arm up, not extended, but maybe it gets reversed for that?

 

[Chaplin]

That wasn't the question was he shooting or passing? You can't answer because he wasn't doing either

You don’t get it. IT DOES NOT MATTER. Are you saying fouls only occur if someone is shooting or passing?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The foul call disparity is a freakin farce.

 

[Russ Smith]

Crowder had his off arm up, not extended, but maybe it gets reversed for that?

Shouldn't have challenged the contact was before the shot but there was contact and they were going to rule he was in the gather anyways so bad challenge

 

[Chaplin]

The foul call disparity is a freakin farce.

Now even as a Suns fan it’s hard to argue with this.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He did it to Payton and you could see the ref tell him that's not a foul anymore.

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Look at the list, KD rip throughs.

They just aren’t calling it a shooting foul. I’m telling you I’ve heard the TNT team in the booth and at the game, and announcers from multiple teams announcers.

 

[95pro]

The warrior fans are ready to be ignored in a bit. Muddying up this thread

 

[Yuma]

That wasn't the question was he shooting or passing? You can't answer because he wasn't doing either

Doesn't matter. You are allowed to go up with the ball for any reason, and a guy cant reach in and hit your arm to disrupt or stop you. It's been a foul since the birth of basketball.

 

[Russ Smith]

You don’t get it. IT DOES NOT MATTER. Are you saying fouls only occur if someone is shooting or passing?

I'm saying it's not a basketball move to swing your arms up. That's exactly what kerr said he's not doing ANYTHING you could see him saying it.

A guy standing there with his arm out has the right to have his arm out if you swing up into it that's not a basketball move it's the definition of a non basketball move which is why they didn't call it when he did it to Payton, kerr's argument worked he got the next call

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

OK but he's not supposed to. Did you watch the W's play the Nets? they were talking about it at length in that game because Durant and especially Harden are not happy with the new don't call a foul on "non basketball moves" and they specifically pointed out they're not calling the rip through like they used to I don't watch enough Suns games to see if Paul is getting that call but I know LeBron's not he's complained about it too

He’s gotten it ALL SEASON.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Saw that coming. Monty should have called the TO after the 2nd three.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Rips throughs are 100% still fouls. There is talk of them reviewing them as not fouls in the offseason, but they don’t fall under the new ”unnatural shooting form“ that they are no longer calling fouls on.

Exactly. That’s exactly what announcers have said all season long.

 

[Chaplin]

3rd quarter meltdown in process.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

-18 pts from the line still up 11.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns need to stay close if they want a chance to win.

 

[Russ Smith]

-18 pts from the line still up 11.

The W's announcers keep commenting on how unusual it is but crediting Phoenix for drawing Ft's in the 2nd Q once they got in the bonus.

 

[Yuma]

Exactly. That’s exactly what announcers have said all season long.

It's been a foul since the birth of basketball. Not just this season.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So why did the ref tell Paul that's not a foul when he did it to Payton?

Maybe Payton was straight up or maybe Paul moved forward toward him to get it. It’s not automatic (although that’s maybe only the second time this season I’ve not seen it called for Paul).

You should listen to what we are saying because we’ve seen 20+ games of it being called and the announcers talking about it not being part of the new rules. We have Paul so we see it constantly. You don’t have guys who do it so you likely don’t see it, or hear it discussed, often (if at all).

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Still don’t understand why Suns not feeding Ayton every time.

 

[Covert Rain]

Shamet is like a black hole when he is not set. When he dribbles or makes his own shot selection he makes bad decisions.

 

[Russ Smith]

Looney took a knee to the nuts on that missed dunk

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I'm saying it's not a basketball move to swing your arms up. That's exactly what kerr said he's not doing ANYTHING you could see him saying it.

A guy standing there with his arm out has the right to have his arm out if you swing up into it that's not a basketball move it's the definition of a non basketball move which is why they didn't call it when he did it to Payton, kerr's argument worked he got the next call

Uh no you’re not allowed to have your arms outstretched over an offensive player if you hit their arm it’s a foul. Rule of verticality.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Still don’t understand why Suns not feeding Ayton every time.

Bc he’s soft tonight.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It's been a foul since the birth of basketball. Not just this season.

I’m saying this season they’re saying it’s not part of the “not a foul” rules for nonbasketball moves.