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Super 8

Release Date: June 10, 2011 (conventional and IMAX theaters)
Studio: Paramount Pictures
Director: J.J. Abrams
Screenwriter: J.J. Abrams
Genre: Action, Horror, Thriller
MPAA Rating: N/A
Website: Super8-movie.com

Starring: Kyle Chandler, Elle Fanning, Joel Courtney, Gabriel Basso, Noah Emmerich, Ron Eldard, Riley Griffiths, Ryan Lee, Zach Mills

Plot Summary: In the summer of 1979, a group of friends in a small Ohio town witness a catastrophic train crash while making a super 8 movie and soon suspect that it was not an accident. Shortly after, unusual disappearances and inexplicable events begin to take place in town, and the local Deputy tries to uncover the truth – something more terrifying than any of them could have imagined.

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I have been waiting for this movie since the 1st trailer hit. Can't wait.
 

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I have been waiting for this movie since the 1st trailer hit. Can't wait.

Agree and I want to say that it's a GREAT trailer. It gave all the perfect hints as to what the movie is about without giving the WHOLE FREAKING PLOT AWAY.

Seriously I hate going to the movies anymore because the trailers for most films show the entire plot with the exception of the ending. I find myself laughing and looking at whoever I'm with after a trailer and saying; "Well that movie was good."

Glad theres someone out there in hollywood that understands that I'm not a moron and you dont have to show me every plot point of a film in order to get me to go see it.:bang:
 

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Took the family to see this and I have to say I was a bit disappointed. I think I was expecting too much. I was hoping it was this generations E.T. with a dash of Stand By Me. Instead I got the cliff notes to each movie mashed together without as much substance.

Don't get me wrong it's not a bad movie. It's actually good. It's just not great. I was expecting great and was a bit let down.

One problem the movie has is pacing. There was not enough going on through stretches of the movie that killed momentum. The "creature" was also a bit of a let down IMO. I liked the premise and what the "creature" was there to do but I didn't care much for the design of it.

Critics overhyped this for sure. If you go and see this, just keep that in mind and you will be fine.
 

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Family just got back. We all really enjoyed it. Theatre was packed though and had to sit 5 rows back. That sucked!
 

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I saw it tonight, it was good but not GREAT imo.

I would suggest to anyone that is going to see it that you just drop your expectations and let the movie take you because it wasn't really what I expected it to be and if I hadn't heard everyone comparing it to the classics I probably would have liked it better.

It's no ET or Jurassic Park, but its a solid film.
 

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I saw it tonight, it was good but not GREAT imo.

I would suggest to anyone that is going to see it that you just drop your expectations and let the movie take you because it wasn't really what I expected it to be and if I hadn't heard everyone comparing it to the classics I probably would have liked it better.

It's no ET or Jurassic Park, but its a solid film.

yeah... seems like the industry sooooooooooo badly wants JJ Abrams to be the next Spielberg... almost like the media want LeBron to be the next Jordan... it's just not meant to be. Abrams is a good director, but at this point, he's nowhere near the level of Spielberg's greatness at making the best popcorn movies of all time.

Star Trek was REALLY entertaining, but had plot holes you could drive 10 semi-trucks through... MI:4 was decent... he basically had nothing to do with Lost after the pilot and his other claims to fame are Alias, which nose-dived after two seasons and freaking Felicity.

As opposed to Spielberg who came out of the box with... Jaws... Close Encounters... Raiders of The Lost Ark... and E.F'N.T...

Granted, I don't think Spielberg ever really approached that level of awestruck greatness he did with those four flicks, but he still knocked 'em wayyyyyyyyy out of the park every once in a while with Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, Jurrasic Park, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan.

Abrams has yet to do ANYTHING of that nature in his career thus far.
 

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yeah... seems like the industry sooooooooooo badly wants JJ Abrams to be the next Spielberg... almost like the media want LeBron to be the next Jordan... it's just not meant to be. Abrams is a good director, but at this point, he's nowhere near the level of Spielberg's greatness at making the best popcorn movies of all time.

Star Trek was REALLY entertaining, but had plot holes you could drive 10 semi-trucks through... MI:4 was decent... he basically had nothing to do with Lost after the pilot and his other claims to fame are Alias, which nose-dived after two seasons and freaking Felicity.

As opposed to Spielberg who came out of the box with... Jaws... Close Encounters... Raiders of The Lost Ark... and E.F'N.T...

Granted, I don't think Spielberg ever really approached that level of awestruck greatness he did with those four flicks, but he still knocked 'em wayyyyyyyyy out of the park every once in a while with Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, Jurrasic Park, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan.

Abrams has yet to do ANYTHING of that nature in his career thus far.

Spielberg is obviously brilliant and I don't know a thing about making movies but it always struck me as odd how Spielberg got cast as a genius.

In the book and later movie Jurassic Park there's a line where Ian Malcolm says something like you stood on the shoulders of giants and took their hard work or something, basically saying you can't control this because you didn't earn it.

I remember when I first saw the movie I really liked it but I thought it was odd that he left that in because I read the book first and anybody who read the book before the movie would know that's what Spielberg did with Jurassic Park, he took an absolutely brilliant book and made it into a great movie. And if you look closely most of his best work is doing just that, Jaws etc he took someone else's book and idea and made a great movie.

That's obviously not easy to do I see bad movies from great books all the time. I guess what I'm saying is it seems to me Abrams is at least trying to go another route in that I think he's been involved in things from idea to movie not just find a great book and make a movie of it?

I'm not in any way comparing him to Spielberg, haven't even seen Super 8 yet and I admit so far Abrams seems to be like LeBron, can't finish, but I've just always found it interesting how revered Spielberg has become for using other people's ideas?
 

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I still think JJ Abrams can go down as one of the greats. I am not saying on the same level as Spielberg (although I think most of what Spielberg has attached his name to doesn't stand up to even his own previous material).

JJ Abrams seems to know how to pull a concept together. The original concept of Lost had no science fiction/fantasy elements and was supposed to be "Cast Away" the series. It was his idea to make the island a "character". I also thought Alias was brilliant and I was huge fan of the new Star Trek film.

So, when I say I was disappointed in Super 8, this is coming from a JJ Abrams fan. Super 8 was a good enough popcorn film but it could have been GREAT IMO. It was just missing something I couldn't put my finger on.
 
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Well, Goonies, Poltergeist, and Close encounters were written I by Spielberg alone and Indiana Jones was pretty good imo and that was GL's brain child but he had alot of help from Spielberg.

Let me put it this way, when Super 8 was over and the credits started to roll, the first one was WRITTEN BY: JJ ABRAMS, and the first thing I thought was, 'stick to directing JJ.'

I've seen far too many films that were beyond TERRIBLE that were based off of fantastic books, so I still say Spielberg deserves all the credit in the world for what he did. You are correct he's not the creative genius behind creating many of his most epic films but he's the one who brought them to life, which is no small task.

I mean when you think about it, Jurrasic park was a movie about dinosaurs, that could have been such a disaster if put in the wrong hands (See Jurassic park 3)
 

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Well, Goonies, Poltergeist, and Close encounters were written I by Spielberg alone and Indiana Jones was pretty good imo and that was GL's brain child but he had alot of help from Spielberg.

Let me put it this way, when Super 8 was over and the credits started to roll, the first one was WRITTEN BY: JJ ABRAMS, and the first thing I thought was, 'stick to directing JJ.'

I've seen far too many films that were beyond TERRIBLE that were based off of fantastic books, so I still say Spielberg deserves all the credit in the world for what he did. You are correct he's not the creative genius behind creating many of his most epic films but he's the one who brought them to life, which is no small task.

I mean when you think about it, Jurrasic park was a movie about dinosaurs, that could have been such a disaster if put in the wrong hands (See Jurassic park 3)

I googled Close Encounters, there were 5-6 other writers and Spielberg himself called the original screenplay "one of the most embarrassing screenplays ever professionally turned in to a major film studio or director. It was a terribly guilt-ridden story not about UFOs at all." Other writers did a major re-write which Spielberg liked and he then wrote the screenplay based on that idea. It was his baby, his pet project he actually tried to make it before jaws but the story was so different and so bad nobody watned it.

Again I agree lots of really good books become bad movies, directing is obviously not easy.

I'm just saying what made him famous in some cases were films where the entire idea was done by someone else.

And if you read Jurassic Park you will see while it may have been a movie about dinosaurs, it wasn't a book about dinosaurs, it was a book about someone forgetting mans place in the whole scheme of things and learning the hard way what happens when you play god. I've read that the reason the ending is different, as to who dies, is that Spielberg felt his ending allowed for a sequel better than the ending Michael Crichton had originally written did. Crichton did write a sequel, much of which became JP 3 in the movies not JP 2.

JP 2 was also Spielberg and IMHO was a horrible movie precisely because he took the base idea of Crichton's sequel, that there had to be another island with Dinosaurs on it to use as "backups" for the original island. But he then went in a total other direction and the movie was pretty badly reviewed. JP 3 stuck more to the book and was a much better movie again IMHO.

I thought Duel was a great first film for him but it was I think a Tv movie only, 3 films after that 2 TV only and then he made Jaws which made him famous. I think he did a great job with Jaws, but if you've seen the makign of Jaws you know that what he wanted to make and what he did make were entirely different. The shark didn't work correctly so they had to redo the movie making far less use of the actual shark. That's what made it such a great film the shark didn't work, so he found a way to make it scary as hell without actually seeing the shark that much until late in the movie.

he was good enough to make lemonade from the lemons, but his initial idea would likely have been nowhere near as good. It would be interesting to see how his career had turned out if when he made Jaws they were able to get the shark to work.
 

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I googled Close Encounters, there were 5-6 other writers and Spielberg himself called the original screenplay "one of the most embarrassing screenplays ever professionally turned in to a major film studio or director. It was a terribly guilt-ridden story not about UFOs at all." Other writers did a major re-write which Spielberg liked and he then wrote the screenplay based on that idea. It was his baby, his pet project he actually tried to make it before jaws but the story was so different and so bad nobody watned it.

Again I agree lots of really good books become bad movies, directing is obviously not easy.

I'm just saying what made him famous in some cases were films where the entire idea was done by someone else.

And if you read Jurassic Park you will see while it may have been a movie about dinosaurs, it wasn't a book about dinosaurs, it was a book about someone forgetting mans place in the whole scheme of things and learning the hard way what happens when you play god. I've read that the reason the ending is different, as to who dies, is that Spielberg felt his ending allowed for a sequel better than the ending Michael Crichton had originally written did. Crichton did write a sequel, much of which became JP 3 in the movies not JP 2.

JP 2 was also Spielberg and IMHO was a horrible movie precisely because he took the base idea of Crichton's sequel, that there had to be another island with Dinosaurs on it to use as "backups" for the original island. But he then went in a total other direction and the movie was pretty badly reviewed. JP 3 stuck more to the book and was a much better movie again IMHO.

I thought Duel was a great first film for him but it was I think a Tv movie only, 3 films after that 2 TV only and then he made Jaws which made him famous. I think he did a great job with Jaws, but if you've seen the makign of Jaws you know that what he wanted to make and what he did make were entirely different. The shark didn't work correctly so they had to redo the movie making far less use of the actual shark. That's what made it such a great film the shark didn't work, so he found a way to make it scary as hell without actually seeing the shark that much until late in the movie.

he was good enough to make lemonade from the lemons, but his initial idea would likely have been nowhere near as good. It would be interesting to see how his career had turned out if when he made Jaws they were able to get the shark to work.

Your shark doesn't work correctly!:mulli:
 

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Your shark doesn't work correctly!:mulli:

Jaws is probably my all time favorite movie, ask my girlfriend if it's on tv I watch it.

After watching the special they had on it (AMC I think) last July I was fascinated by it. they talked about the time on set and everything and even Spielberg himself said the film took forever and ran over budget because the shark didn't work, but in the end, it's what made the film so good. He said it himself during the special that if the shark had worked as planned, the film would have been completely different and he now thinks it wouldn't have been nearly as good.

Again absolutely did a great job of making lemons into lemonade and it's a masterpiece of a movie. I just think it's interesting that even he admits his idea for it wasn't nearly as good as the end result. He says in the show that he had to treat it more like a book, since the shark didn't work if he showed it too much it would look bad, so the had to get more into the story and the characters and build suspense like Benchley had to do in the book.

I just think his career might have been different if he'd made the movie he intended to make. He said when he went over budget he thought nobody would ever hire him again but then the movie was so good it opened all the doors for him to the rest of his career and then he obviously made a bunch of terrific movies after that.

Had he made the original idea and it bombed, he might not have gotten the chance to make Close Encounters and some of the other movies.

All about timing and taking advantage of opportunities.
 

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Jaws is probably my all time favorite movie, ask my girlfriend if it's on tv I watch it.

After watching the special they had on it (AMC I think) last July I was fascinated by it. they talked about the time on set and everything and even Spielberg himself said the film took forever and ran over budget because the shark didn't work, but in the end, it's what made the film so good. He said it himself during the special that if the shark had worked as planned, the film would have been completely different and he now thinks it wouldn't have been nearly as good.

Again absolutely did a great job of making lemons into lemonade and it's a masterpiece of a movie. I just think it's interesting that even he admits his idea for it wasn't nearly as good as the end result. He says in the show that he had to treat it more like a book, since the shark didn't work if he showed it too much it would look bad, so the had to get more into the story and the characters and build suspense like Benchley had to do in the book.

I just think his career might have been different if he'd made the movie he intended to make. He said when he went over budget he thought nobody would ever hire him again but then the movie was so good it opened all the doors for him to the rest of his career and then he obviously made a bunch of terrific movies after that.

Had he made the original idea and it bombed, he might not have gotten the chance to make Close Encounters and some of the other movies.

All about timing and taking advantage of opportunities.
I LOVE that movie, but:

Jaws Spoiler

You can't explode an oxygen tank by shooting it. :) http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/07/special_jaws_special_1.html
 

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I LOVE that movie, but:

Jaws Spoiler

You can't explode an oxygen tank by shooting it. :) http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/07/special_jaws_special_1.html

Yep I've seen that Mythbusters too.

Still a great scene "smile you son of a bitch".

The AMC special was great I highly recommend watching it if you like the movie it's pretty cool to hear them all talk about it. It was supposed to take like 50 days and took over 150. The whole island was taken over by actors and movie people drinking and doing other things the whole time there.

Spielberg didn't even write the script for Jaws they had Benchley do it but after 3 tries he was infuriated that Spielberg wanted to deviate from the book, so he quit. They got someone else involved, Spielberg apparently had a draft he wrote, but he liked the reworked version the other writers did so much he just used that.

Wikipedia's entry on it is right out of the special has lots of tidbits.
 

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Jaws is probably my all time favorite movie, ask my girlfriend if it's on tv I watch it.

After watching the special they had on it (AMC I think) last July I was fascinated by it. they talked about the time on set and everything and even Spielberg himself said the film took forever and ran over budget because the shark didn't work, but in the end, it's what made the film so good. He said it himself during the special that if the shark had worked as planned, the film would have been completely different and he now thinks it wouldn't have been nearly as good.

Again absolutely did a great job of making lemons into lemonade and it's a masterpiece of a movie. I just think it's interesting that even he admits his idea for it wasn't nearly as good as the end result. He says in the show that he had to treat it more like a book, since the shark didn't work if he showed it too much it would look bad, so the had to get more into the story and the characters and build suspense like Benchley had to do in the book.

I just think his career might have been different if he'd made the movie he intended to make. He said when he went over budget he thought nobody would ever hire him again but then the movie was so good it opened all the doors for him to the rest of his career and then he obviously made a bunch of terrific movies after that.

Had he made the original idea and it bombed, he might not have gotten the chance to make Close Encounters and some of the other movies.

All about timing and taking advantage of opportunities.

Good stuff Russ, I didn't know any of that. I also love Jaws. It's funny how little twists of fate like that happen in life and something that you think is a disaster at the time winds up being the best case scenario. Thats funny that he's thinking (I cant believe everything that's going wrong, my career is totally over) and then it turned out to be an all time classic.

Hey give him credit also, atleast he didn't go back 20 years later and CGI the shark in the way he "originally imagined" it like a certain other director who's name will not be spoken. lol
 

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Good stuff Russ, I didn't know any of that. I also love Jaws. It's funny how little twists of fate like that happen in life and something that you think is a disaster at the time winds up being the best case scenario. Thats funny that he's thinking (I cant believe everything that's going wrong, my career is totally over) and then it turned out to be an all time classic.

Hey give him credit also, atleast he didn't go back 20 years later and CGI the shark in the way he "originally imagined" it like a certain other director who's name will not be spoken. lol

Look at the wikipedia entry for Jaws, lots of it right off the AMC special.

2 examples was the scene with Ben Gardners head popping out of the boat underwater, that was added after the film screened. Spielberg wanted one more scream, the studio refused to pay for it, so he paid 3K out of his own pocket to shoot that scene.

And in the book and the original script, Hooper dies. They were shooting the footage off Australia using a small person in the cage to make the shark look huge. With an empty cage, a shark got stuck in the cage and ripped it apart. They liked the footage so much, but didn't know how to explain the cage being empty, so they re-wrote it so that Hooper escapes and then the shark destroys the cage.

highly recommend that special.
 

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To get back on the topic of, you know, the movie this thread is about...

I liked it a lot. Early on I was a little annoyed at the 'monster you can't really see' thing, like 'oh brother, here we go AGAIN with Abrams', but I think he had a real reason for doing so. This movie wasn't about the monster, but about the people dealing with the situation. It was an incredibly touching look at a few families and some friends, and I enjoyed it immensely.
 

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I went in with low expectations and was really blown away. I totally loved this movie. For me it was a nostalgic thing. It reminded me of the Summer Blockbusters that I watched with my friends growing up. Super 8 is a true Summer Blockbuster and highly entertaining.

Like I said before, I had low expectations going in. After listening to Elle Fanning in a bunch of interviews I was expecting her to be terrible. Boy was I surprised. Fanning was fantastic as was the boy who played Joel.

I think Abrams really nailed the human aspect of this film. You instantly feel conected with the characters he created and that is what makes this movie such a success IMO.

I highly recommend this movie. Go see it in the theater.
 

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When I think of this movie, I can't help thinking of a motel where the remote is bolted to the bedstand.
 

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I went in with low expectations and was really blown away. I totally loved this movie. For me it was a nostalgic thing. It reminded me of the Summer Blockbusters that I watched with my friends growing up. Super 8 is a true Summer Blockbuster and highly entertaining.

Like I said before, I had low expectations going in. After listening to Elle Fanning in a bunch of interviews I was expecting her to be terrible. Boy was I surprised. Fanning was fantastic as was the boy who played Joel.

I think Abrams really nailed the human aspect of this film. You instantly feel conected with the characters he created and that is what makes this movie such a success IMO.

I highly recommend this movie. Go see it in the theater.

I can see that. The problem is I went in with high expectations which led to my disappointment. Again, good movie but it's not a classic IMO which is what I was expecting.

P.S. Did anybody else notice the overuse of the blue lens flares they kept adding in several scenes? They over did it to the point it was annoying in a few scenes.
 

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Count me in with the disappointed crowd... I thought it was ok, and if I didn't have pretty big expectations I would probably have liked it more, but save the INCREDIBLE train crash scene, (which was both as intense and exciting of a scene that I can remember) it was just ok and I don't know just lacked something..

At the end, I sat there trying to pin point exactly what it lacked and could not.. call it the "IT" factor, but whatever it was, to me it just missed the mark...
 

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With the wholly underwhelming previews, why was anyone going into this with high expectations? It's not like Abrams is a can't-miss commodity.
 

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With the wholly underwhelming previews, why was anyone going into this with high expectations? It's not like Abrams is a can't-miss commodity.

The previews had me excited. Also because of all the reviews. The average critic rating was 83% on Rotten tomatoes and 72 on Metacritic.
 

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DarenG;2460032 P.S. Did anybody else notice the overuse of the blue lens flares they kept adding in several scenes? They over did it to the point it was annoying in a few scenes.[/QUOTE said:
that's Abrams "calling card"... he did it somewhat in MI:3 and then went crazy with it in Star Trek. I didn't mind it in Star Trek, actually thought it was pretty cool with whole space thing going on, but i don't know how it plays in Super 8.
 

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