Taxes called key to get 2012 Super Bowl

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http://www.azcentral.com/sports/superbowl/business/articles/0205wrapup0205.html

Taxes called key to get 2012 Super Bowl
Scott Wong and Carrie Watters
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 5, 2008 12:00 AM

Super Bowl organizers will try to nail down another big game for Arizona, possibly as early as 2012.

But for the state to stay competitive, taxpayers need to shoulder the majority of game costs, organizers say. And the organizers plan to lobby for legislation to accomplish that.

The weeklong celebration culminating with Sunday's Super Bowl XLII cost the local Host Committee about $17 million. The private sector, including such big contributors as the Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation and the Thunderbirds, bankrolled more than 80 percent, while state and local agencies chipped in the balance.





But with a slumping economy making fundraising a challenge, the Arizona Super Bowl Host Committee, the Arizona Cardinals organization and Valley business leaders want see that ratio reversed, with public dollars financing the bulk of the effort.

"The private sector has stepped up to make this happen," committee Chairman Mike Kennedy said in a recent interview. "But it seems that it's more equitable that this is a responsibility borne more and more broadly by the public.

"It's not just a large corporation or Indian nation that benefits from this. The entire community benefits from this, and we will be at a competitive disadvantage if we don't do something like Texas."


Upping the ante
Last year, Texas beat out Arizona and Indianapolis for the 2011 Super Bowl. Texas lured the bowl with the Dallas Cowboys' new $1 billion stadium and a game plan calling for up to $30 million in private and public funding. Most of that would come from corporate sponsors.

Texas law allows state sales taxes to be used to offset the cost of hosting major sporting events.

Incremental revenues, money generated above annual sales-tax estimates, are placed in a trust fund managed by the state. The money is then distributed to the local host committee for expenses such as staging events, volunteers and transportation.

Kennedy and others, including Cardinals President Michael Bidwill, want to see similar legislation introduced here.

They've been speaking with Gov. Janet Napolitano and state lawmakers, hoping to persuade them to support a future bill that would provide more public funding for major sporting events.

Those include future Super Bowls, NBA All-Star Games and NCAA Final Four basketball tournaments.

"We ought to be putting things in place to land these types of events," Bidwill said.


Battle in Legislature?
Still, the timing couldn't be worse.

Napolitano and state legislators are grappling over how to erase Arizona's $1 billion budget deficit.

Last week at the Super Bowl Media Center, Napolitano sidestepped a question about whether she would back such a bill.

"I don't speculate on future legislation," she told The Arizona Republic.

Such a proposal will be a tough sell, if Glendale's failed bid to obtain state funding for security costs is any indication.

A 2007 bill would have allowed cities to receive up to $1 million in state reimbursement for public-safety expenses for hosting big events. But a push at the end of the legislative session stalled and state lawmakers adjourned for the year without action.

Rep. John Nelson, R-Glendale, who had supported last year's bill, said Monday that he would like to see economic data from the Host Committee before backing any new proposal.

But he said he couldn't foresee the state handing over upward of $13 million to the Host Committee.

No one yet knows how much this year's Super Bowl will fatten state coffers, though organizers project the game created more than $400 million in spending. An economic-impact study won't be out for at least a couple of months.

Glendale Mayor Elaine Scruggs says she wants dollars funneled to public-safety efforts undertaken by Valley cities that host bowl-related events.

Glendale spent nearly $2 million for police and fire protection over the past week.

"If the Host Committee wants to go lobby for state assistance in meeting private-sector dollar goals, that's their right," Scruggs said. "I believe public-safety dollars should be included in there."

Kennedy said it will be at least a week before local stakeholders decide whether to shoot for 2012.

So far, Indianapolis, Houston and New Orleans are vying for the 2012 game. Bids are due by April 1.

"I don't know when we'll be back seeking another Super Bowl. Maybe soon," Kennedy said. "But we also have the thought that maybe that is an opportunity that shouldn't get away."
 

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Tax em up and gitter done!
 

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WHy doesnt the state earmark $13M from this Super Bowl for the next Super Bowl?
 
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:thumbdownEasy for you to say...

the taxes won't be added to your bill in Nevada. However, Arizona residents would be paying additional taxes.

It was nice having the Super Bowl in Arizona. But while it is estimated to have brought $400 million dollars to the state economy, NONE of that windfall is going to find it's way into my pocket. So why should I be willing to pay for the next one? What benefit is it to me and my family? Again, NONE!

Let the businesses which benefit from Super Bowl revenues pony up the money for the committee!
 

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Tax em up and gitter done!

Why don't we just get more business' involved. Taxing me, who sees no revenue for this game is ludicris. I allready work my tail off getting all the people on and off their planes during an event like this. Now they want me to pay for it. I don't think so!

Bring more business' into the mix, those are the one's that truely prosper from this game. The Casino's make alot during these, so do the Vegas ones. Everyone should anty up. The taxpaying citizenry footing the bill is a joke.
 

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:thumbdownEasy for you to say...

the taxes won't be added to your bill in Nevada. However, Arizona residents would be paying additional taxes.

It was nice having the Super Bowl in Arizona. But while it is estimated to have brought $400 million dollars to the state economy, NONE of that windfall is going to find it's way into my pocket. So why should I be willing to pay for the next one? What benefit is it to me and my family? Again, NONE!

Let the businesses which benefit from Super Bowl revenues pony up the money for the committee!


Exactly. Thats why Im all for it. :D
 

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agreed - what would of been wise was to earmark a portion of this weeks sales tax receipts for future bids

let this one pay for the next one

i also agree that the corporations that directly benefit should bear the majority of the cost

however, do not kid yourself that the every day arizonan cannot benefit from events like these - our economy flourishes on toursim and the companies that provide these services are able to maintain their profits and employment of AZ taxpayers.

the SB can prompt first time visitors to AZ to become return visitors, bringing their money back in the future

the increased money spent across the valley should increase the county, state and local municipalities revenue stream

even some expenses like overtime for safety personnel could have benefits as it still gives arizona residents extra income that they can reinvest into the economy

i wouldn't support this blindly and think that the smart approach would of been to use one event to pay for future events

however i wouldn't be completely opposed if I could see a legit economic impact study that weighed the pros and cons and if it brought in a surplus of revenue if I had any confidence in the legislature to spend any money wisely
 

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agreed - what would of been wise was to earmark a portion of this weeks sales tax receipts for future bids

let this one pay for the next one

i also agree that the corporations that directly benefit should bear the majority of the cost

however, do not kid yourself that the every day arizonan cannot benefit from events like these - our economy flourishes on toursim and the companies that provide these services are able to maintain their profits and employment of AZ taxpayers.

the SB can prompt first time visitors to AZ to become return visitors, bringing their money back in the future

the increased money spent across the valley should increase the county, state and local municipalities revenue stream

even some expenses like overtime for safety personnel could have benefits as it still gives arizona residents extra income that they can reinvest into the economy

i wouldn't support this blindly and think that the smart approach would of been to use one event to pay for future events

however i wouldn't be completely opposed if I could see a legit economic impact study that weighed the pros and cons and if it brought in a surplus of revenue if I had any confidence in the legislature to spend any money wisely

Heard several times thoughout the week from first-timers, how much they loved AZ and will "definitely" be back...
Also, I think there were quite a few homeowners who did ok renting out their home. Who knows, maybe this helped them pay their mortgage payment for a month or two...

I heard that between the Super Bowl and the FBR, more than 600,000 people came to the Valley... Not too shabby if true, and I'll certain that in the days/weeks ahead, we will read about the economic impact this had here in the Valley and in the state...
 
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agreed - what would of been wise was to earmark a portion of this weeks sales tax receipts for future bids

let this one pay for the next one
Brilliant!

Now why couldn't the powers that be figure this out?

i also agree that the corporations that directly benefit should bear the majority of the cost

however, do not kid yourself that the every day arizonan cannot benefit from events like these - our economy flourishes on toursim and the companies that provide these services are able to maintain their profits and employment of AZ taxpayers.

the SB can prompt first time visitors to AZ to become return visitors, bringing their money back in the future

the increased money spent across the valley should increase the county, state and local municipalities revenue stream

even some expenses like overtime for safety personnel could have benefits as it still gives arizona residents extra income that they can reinvest into the economy

i wouldn't support this blindly and think that the smart approach would of been to use one event to pay for future events

however i wouldn't be completely opposed if I could see a legit economic impact study that weighed the pros and cons and if it brought in a surplus of revenue if I had any confidence in the legislature to spend any money wisely
Many people benefit indirectly; particularly those in industries which support the tourism. Even WildBB who was busy getting people in and out of the airport may have indirect benefit because more travelers mean more airport jobs.

But I work in an industry that is in no way impacted by increased tourism nor by the money spent during this event. I won't be in support of any additional taxes. As Osprey pointed out there are better, more equitable ways of funding the effort.

OT: What about the FBR Open? Are they going to be next in line to request tax assistance? How about the Fiesta Bowl, Barrett-Jackson, etc....
 

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the number of visitors I read was much smaller - more in the 150,000 - 200,000 range ....... but still enough to make a good impact and we charged everyone one of them taxes in some way, shape or form

taxes that are used on the state

so to say that you receive no potential benefit is a bit off
 

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But I work in an industry that is in no way impacted by increased tourism nor by the money spent during this event.

however I'm assuming you gain benefit from some tax based government programs and if the effects are more gain in tax revenue than initial revenue spent would you still be opposed?

which is an unfortunate question because our gov't can never really seem to do anything with efficiency and foresight
 

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Well there are about 6,200,000 residents of Arizona. That means it would cost each and every resident about $3 every 4 or 5 years when the SB is held here and that's providing there are no sponsors what-so-ever to help out. If it's on a 4 year basis, the cost per year per resident is $0.75. I'm willing to part with that to get a SB here every 4 years.
 

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I probably paid more taxes to the State of Arizona than any of you guys and I live in Texas.

The taxes on car rentals are so high that I may have to get Card Trader to let me borrow his Ferrari instead of renting.

Rental Car taxes
Sales Tax
Hotel Tax
Tax on Cards tickets
Liqour tax
Cigar tax
Tailgate tax
 

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I'm all for the tax if it means that more seats will be assigned to Card fans otherwise, they can take a hike.
 

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Well there are about 6,200,000 residents of Arizona. That means it would cost each and every resident about $3 every 4 or 5 years when the SB is held here and that's providing there are no sponsors what-so-ever to help out. If it's on a 4 year basis, the cost per year per resident is $0.75. I'm willing to part with that to get a SB here every 4 years.
You will agree to the same tax to upgrade the education system in this state then? More teachers, better pay, more books?
 

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Just joshing ya earthsci.;) Actually I live in one of the very few 55+ communities that actually does pay school taxes. When my boy was going to school, everyone had to pay property taxes to support the school system. The generation before me paid for my kid, so I figure I need to return the favor and pay for the kids in the generation after me.

I don't always agree with the way some of our school adminstrations spend their money, but I do know that teachers are woefully underpaid and a lot of good people who would be teachers pursue other jobs because they can't live on a teachers' salary.
 

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Given the current state of local government budget shortfalls and the short time frame to get this approved, it's a non-issue. Dead on arrival.
 

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Is there a way to re-instate that tourist tax that bought the stadium?
 
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