Thank you Kliff

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Zane shouldn’t be in that situation. We completed a 35 yard pass and followed it with run middle, run middle, rollout pass. Played incredibly conservative almost as if a FG won the game not tied it

A roll out pass when our QB‘S—arguably—biggest weakness is the roll out pass.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think Kliff called a decent game, until it really mattered. Then we got scared. Defense was garbage and Zane is not reliable. KK needs to keep his foot on the gas.

Exactly the problem.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Whoever is defending Kingsbury is a blind homer.

coaches make a difference in crucial situations and his were all wrong.

There is no doubt that he made some bad decisions in this game and may very well have cost us the game in the process, but it's definitely not all on him.

KM needs to hit on that 3&1 to Kirk, Zane needs to make a 48 yard FG, AI needs to not run backwards taking away a first down and Kyler can't give the other team 7 points off of loose ballhandling.

Of course the defense also needs to not make a rookie QB look like a frickin top 10 QB. It was an all around team loss and some of that is decisions/game planning by the coaches.

 

[AZfaninMN]

Because the refs call more against him then for him (he doesn't get the Seahawks treatment)
Because KM fumbles the ball and they get a TD from that exact play?
The Refs give the Dolphins twice a TD drive because of bad calls?
The Kicker misses a FG in range?
The RB doesn't get a first down on 4th and inches after the QB gets hit Head first to his head and we would have had a first down with a better spot befor that?
Because his DC can't stop a flue till late in the 4th quarter when he finally decides to RUSH the Rookie QB because he can't cover all WR with the back ups from back ups in a ******** zone scheme that nobody can figure out in half a season?
Because Isabella instead of holding his point of the first down goes backwards because he thinks he can get more?

Yes if thats defining a loser he may be one.

This is a team loss this is one where everyone of that team expect Hopkins, Kirk and Fitz are guilty. Yes even KM because without his fumble we would have won.

This game had so many points were just a equality call by the refs, would have made enough difference so that we can win. But they didn't.

The Miami O-line hold all day long, the O got with head first against Budda, Parker throw down PP21 on a crucial 2nd and 17 to get to the 3.

If the commentary was better, hell we would have enraged People killing/lynching the zebras today with the athmosphere that is on the streets.


This game was bad by our team, but they played good enough to win it. But if you inflict yourself so much wounds and the calls aren't going your way or you don't get them at all, you might lose against a opponent that you should beat.

Miami was there to play from the get go and we did let Tua get comfortable. Normally you get a rookie uncomfortable and then you give him looks that he doesn't know/understand and than he makes mistakes, our DC's since bettcher don't do that, gosh when I remember right the last DC that did that well was Horton, even Bowles had his slip ups against Rookies and Back-up QB ...

So we’re gonna just ignore the time management problems that he’s had not just this week, but every week this season? How about his ludicrous calls for a loss after completing a big play? If not that, maybe his conservative nature with the game looming large? @GatorAZ posted in the game day thread we had 1 pass on 1st down in the fourth quarter and it went for 35. A lot of the things KK can’t control I don’t blame him for, but the things that are directly in his control, he constantly makes mistakes

 

[Outerlimits]

Sucks that they lost. Defense is horrid right now. Costly penalties and turnovers also. On the plus side, 49ers and Seahawks also lost so division wise, it's not a killer. Seahawks have defensive weakness just like this team.

 

[Cards_Campos]

What is ridiculous. We just scored 30+ points 4 games in a row. Never been done before.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Because the refs call more against him then for him (he doesn't get the Seahawks treatment)
Because KM fumbles the ball and they get a TD from that exact play?
The Refs give the Dolphins twice a TD drive because of bad calls?
The Kicker misses a FG in range?
The RB doesn't get a first down on 4th and inches after the QB gets hit Head first to his head and we would have had a first down with a better spot befor that?
Because his DC can't stop a flue till late in the 4th quarter when he finally decides to RUSH the Rookie QB because he can't cover all WR with the back ups from back ups in a ******** zone scheme that nobody can figure out in half a season?
Because Isabella instead of holding his point of the first down goes backwards because he thinks he can get more?

Yes if thats defining a loser he may be one.

This is a team loss this is one where everyone of that team expect Hopkins, Kirk and Fitz are guilty. Yes even KM because without his fumble we would have won.

This game had so many points were just a equality call by the refs, would have made enough difference so that we can win. But they didn't.

The Miami O-line hold all day long, the O got with head first against Budda, Parker throw down PP21 on a crucial 2nd and 17 to get to the 3.

If the commentary was better, hell we would have enraged People killing/lynching the zebras today with the athmosphere that is on the streets.


This game was bad by our team, but they played good enough to win it. But if you inflict yourself so much wounds and the calls aren't going your way or you don't get them at all, you might lose against a opponent that you should beat.

Miami was there to play from the get go and we did let Tua get comfortable. Normally you get a rookie uncomfortable and then you give him looks that he doesn't know/understand and than he makes mistakes, our DC's since bettcher don't do that, gosh when I remember right the last DC that did that well was Horton, even Bowles had his slip ups against Rookies and Back-up QB ...

Because the refs call more against him then for him (he doesn't get the Seahawks treatment)
Because KM fumbles the ball and they get a TD from that exact play?
The Refs give the Dolphins twice a TD drive because of bad calls?
The Kicker misses a FG in range?
The RB doesn't get a first down on 4th and inches after the QB gets hit Head first to his head and we would have had a first down with a better spot befor that?
Because his DC can't stop a flue till late in the 4th quarter when he finally decides to RUSH the Rookie QB because he can't cover all WR with the back ups from back ups in a ******** zone scheme that nobody can figure out in half a season?
Because Isabella instead of holding his point of the first down goes backwards because he thinks he can get more?

Yes if thats defining a loser he may be one.

This is a team loss this is one where everyone of that team expect Hopkins, Kirk and Fitz are guilty. Yes even KM because without his fumble we would have won.

This game had so many points were just a equality call by the refs, would have made enough difference so that we can win. But they didn't.

The Miami O-line hold all day long, the O got with head first against Budda, Parker throw down PP21 on a crucial 2nd and 17 to get to the 3.

If the commentary was better, hell we would have enraged People killing/lynching the zebras today with the athmosphere that is on the streets.


This game was bad by our team, but they played good enough to win it. But if you inflict yourself so much wounds and the calls aren't going your way or you don't get them at all, you might lose against a opponent that you should beat.

Miami was there to play from the get go and we did let Tua get comfortable. Normally you get a rookie uncomfortable and then you give him looks that he doesn't know/understand and than he makes mistakes, our DC's since bettcher don't do that, gosh when I remember right the last DC that did that well was Horton, even Bowles had his slip ups against Rookies and Back-up QB ...

wow.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Still waiting for somebody to say good moves by KK instead of giving excuses.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Our schedule next 2 weeks. We can be 5-5. And then what!?! Kliff is such a damn wuss

 

[HairZach]

Our offense looked fantastic the entire game so I can't really blame this on Kliff. Nothing stood out as a terrible decision unless having our field goal kicker miss was a coaching decision. We don't have a running back for 4th and short and that is why we lost. Edmonds, Eno and Foster are all tweener speed backs who will great plays but are fundamentally incapable of fulfilling the role of a RB1. I honestly think the correct call on 4th and inches was Streveler/Hundley QB sneaking.

We also gave up 7 to a defensive score, which is hard to come back from.

On another note I don't want to see Murray lower the shoulder ever again. It doesn't do anything and even though he had 100 yards on the ground doesn't mean we should forget that his body will break quickly if he keeps doing that.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You have the best WR in the game and he sees 0 targets in the 1st half.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He needs an assistant who just watches the clock for him. He clearly is unable to manage it.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What is ridiculous. We just scored 30+ points 4 games in a row. Never been done before.

That’s an OC. Not a head coach.

 

[cardjunkie]

Plenty of blame to go around. This is a silly thread.

Why are you here posting then?

 

[AZfaninMN]

So we’re gonna just ignore the time management problems that he’s had not just this week, but every week this season? How about his ludicrous calls for a loss after completing a big play? If not that, maybe his conservative nature with the game looming large? @GatorAZ posted in the game day thread we had 1 pass on 1st down in the fourth quarter and it went for 35. A lot of the things KK can’t control I don’t blame him for, but the things that are directly in his control, he constantly makes mistakes

Also forgot to add on our 4th down we didn’t get, we take the ball out of our best players hands and hand it off from the pistol to a RB who’s 5’8” 200 pounds. Completed 2 4th downs earlier by our QB making correct reads and forcing the D to stop #1

 

[HoodieBets]

It just amazes me all the time that when we push the ball down the field good things happen and then we get cute running plays that are designed to go for 2 yards. Just keep pushing the ball stop the BS.


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[dscher]

He single handedly lost the game with poor situational playcalling and decision making.

All I can say he has got to get better and fast.

This. I'm usually giving him the benefit of the doubt because of adjustments that should come with time. But, this game stings because of his waffling at the end. I think you can lose guys quick if you don't call plays with complete confidence....and that last possession felt that way to me personally.

 

[dscher]

Guys, we missed a 49 yard FG. It happens! The coach called a bad TO. It happens a lot! They made big play on 4th and 1. It happens!!! We made huge plays in high leverage spots against SF (member the fumble into the end zone?) and Sea (too many to count)

Ok. We get it. It happens. Doesn't mean right after the sting of the loss we can't vent a little. This also...happens.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

That’s an OC. Not a head coach.

Kliff calls the plays iirc

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Ok. We get it. It happens. Doesn't mean right after the sting of the loss we can't vent a little. This also...happens.

my venting is more about

Kyler being a legit superstar
Kliff being a great playcaller with flaws (Andy Reid was BERATED heavily until last year for game mgmt issues)
Murphy and Kirkpatrick are really important

 

[iLLmatiC]

Why are you here posting then?

To comment that it's a silly thread, duh.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

my venting is more about

Kyler being a legit superstar
Kliff being a great playcaller with flaws (Andy Reid was BERATED heavily until last year for game mgmt issues)
Murphy and Kirkpatrick are really important

Yeah he has a poor man's Andy Reid feel right now.

For all my frustration, that is a head coach though. If he was our offensive coordinator he would be the #1 HC candidate.

We just need to temper our expectations for another year.

 

[Zeem_Freeze]

man what a thread... lets send Cbus Cardsfan a bill since he seems to think this community is his therapist. go for a walk and enjoy the remainder of your sunday.

Cards should've won but its not on the offense or Kliff.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Look

If every NFL Head Coach had equally talented teams and the head coaching abilities were solely the only factor between winning and losing - we'd have the #1 draft pick again in 2021

What I'm saying is Kyler Murray and this team is carrying Kliff Kingsbury

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Still waiting for somebody to say good moves by KK instead of giving excuses.

If he made "good decisions" in big moments we would have won the game.

TBF though the difference between a good decision and bad decision a lot of the time simply comes down to whether or not it works.

If KM hits kirk for a 1st on 3rd down no one is calling that a bad play call, if Zane makes that FG no one is saying he made a mistake not going for it and if Edmonds breaks free for a first down on one of those run plays in the last drive no one is calling him out for calling run plays.

Generally speaking if a call leads to a win or a successful play people will usually call it good and if it leads to a loss it will be called bad. That isn't to say that he didn't mismanage anything either as he at least mismanaged the end of the 1st half.