The Amazing Spider-Man 2

[NJCardFan]

Huge plot holes in Spiderman (MOVIES ONLY) that just drive me nuts:

If Spiderman really wanted to do something to help people, why doesn't he go kidnap some of those super spiders and turn them lose on cancer patients and sick children? That way they can have super strength, healing, senses also. How bout give it to some policemen or soldiers? It never even occurs to Peter or any of his villians to go get a super spider and let it bite someone else, because the producers think people are too stupid to think of that possibility.

That is the problem with how they tell the creation story in both these Spidey movie franchises. It's totally random, nothing special about Peter Parker he's just a kid who got bit by a super spider and it gave him powers. They never explain or elaborate on there being anything special about Peter Parker that led him from the bite to his powers, and he never considers sharing it with anyone. Atleast in this reboot Peter invents the webbing system so he's got that going for him. In the first franchise the fact that he's a genius is almost totally irrelevant.

I realize it's suspended reality about a guy who gets super spider powers, but it's just bad storytelling IMO.

Spiderman is a fictional story about a boy who is bitten by a radioactive spider, gets super spidey powers, fights all kinds of bad guys like Doc Oc(a man who has 4 mechanical arms), Electro(a guy who can conduct electricity), Mysterio, Green Goblin, Sandman(a guy made of, well, sand)to name a few, and you're complaining about realism?

 

[JerkFace]

Huge plot holes in Spiderman (MOVIES ONLY) that just drive me nuts:

If Spiderman really wanted to do something to help people, why doesn't he go kidnap some of those super spiders and turn them lose on cancer patients and sick children? That way they can have super strength, healing, senses also. How bout give it to some policemen or soldiers? It never even occurs to Peter or any of his villians to go get a super spider and let it bite someone else, because the producers think people are too stupid to think of that possibility.

Actually this movie finally addresses that:

Spoiler

As a precaution Peter's dad infused the spiders with his own DNA so that they wouldn't be able to use them without him. That's why it only would work on Peter.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Release Date: May 1, 2014 (3D/2D theaters and IMAX 3D, p.m. screenings)
Studio: Columbia Pictures (Sony)
Director: Marc Webb
Screenwriter: Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner
Genre: Action, Adventure
MPAA Rating: PG-13 (for sequences of sci-fi action/violence)
Website: TheAmazingSpiderMan.com | Facebook | Twitter | Tumblr | The Daily Bugle Tumblr

Starring: Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Jamie Foxx, Dane DeHaan, Campbell Scott, Embeth Davidtz, Colm Feore, Paul Giamatti, Sally Field, B.J. Novak

Plot Summary: We've always known that Spider-Man's most important battle has been within himself: the struggle between the ordinary obligations of Peter Parker and the extraordinary responsibilities of Spider-Man. But in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2," Peter Parker finds that his greatest battle is about to begin.

It's great to be Spider-Man (Andrew Garfield). For Peter Parker, there's no feeling quite like swinging between skyscrapers, embracing being the hero, and spending time with Gwen (Emma Stone). But being Spider-Man comes at a price: only Spider-Man can protect his fellow New Yorkers from the formidable villains that threaten the city. With the emergence of Electro (Jamie Foxx), Peter must confront a foe far more powerful than he. And as his old friend, Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), returns, Peter comes to realize that all of his enemies have one thing in common: Oscorp.

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[Bert]

Spiderman is a fictional story about a boy who is bitten by a radioactive spider, gets super spidey powers, fights all kinds of bad guys like Doc Oc(a man who has 4 mechanical arms), Electro(a guy who can conduct electricity), Mysterio, Green Goblin, Sandman(a guy made of, well, sand)to name a few, and you're complaining about realism?

I wasn't just complaining I was simply making an observation about sloppy writing.. Way to bump a post from months ago and take it totally for what it wasn't. As usual...

Enjoy your Spiderman.

 

[Covert Rain]

Took the two older kids to see this over the weekend. It was OK. Nothing spectacular but entertaining. I have a few problems like in the opening sequence, Spiderman seems really OK with tons of cars crashing into each other and getting smashed by the truck for example. He is completely oblivious and joking around while people are probably dying in car wrecks.

Also many inconsistencies. Like for example, an overweight short guy can leap up a snag a plutonium container from Spiderman's web with no effort yet Gwen has to cut away the web to escape from the trunk of a car later.

The other thing that really bugs me in this reboot is the CGI. Yes they used it in the original trilogy too but I remember them saying they specifically put TM in the suit as much as possible to try and keep it real looking. Seems like that is all out the door. The CGI with Spider-man took me out of the film more than a few times because it was so cartoony. Some of the movements of the character just looked ridiculous to me. Whenever CGI ruins that illusion it annoys me. I know many of those sequences MUST be in CGI I am a bigger fan of making it look at least somewhat realistic.


I guess that has been my problem with this reboot. There are a ton of things in both films to nitpick at which has made for a very mediocre and unnecessary reboot IMO. Also, I am a huge fan of stingers at the end of the Marvel films. Yes it was cool to see an X-men one but why not one related to this series of films?!?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That is the problem with how they tell the creation story in both these Spidey movie franchises. It's totally random, nothing special about Peter Parker he's just a kid who got bit by a super spider and it gave him powers. They never explain or elaborate on there being anything special about Peter Parker that led him from the bite to his powers, and he never considers sharing it with anyone. Atleast in this reboot Peter invents the webbing system so he's got that going for him. In the first franchise the fact that he's a genius is almost totally irrelevant.

Correct. Basically Parker is selected by Eternity to eventually fight in the Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos. He has the biggest role in defeating him, which is partially why I hate that they can't use him in the Avengers.

Along those lines, there are multiple story arcs where someone else is bitten by the spider and they all either die or give up because they lack certain key elements of Parker's personality including said ability to create his web shooters.

 

[Bert]

Correct. Basically Parker is selected by Eternity to eventually fight in the Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos. He has the biggest role in defeating him, which is partially why I hate that they can't use him in the Avengers.

Along those lines, there are multiple story arcs where someone else is bitten by the spider and they all either die or give up because they lack certain key elements of Parker's personality including said ability to create his web shooters.

As someone who didn't read the comics (I wish I had) this is good stuff to know. Thank you Chris.

 

[Covert Rain]

Correct. Basically Parker is selected by Eternity to eventually fight in the Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos. He has the biggest role in defeating him, which is partially why I hate that they can't use him in the Avengers.

Along those lines, there are multiple story arcs where someone else is bitten by the spider and they all either die or give up because they lack certain key elements of Parker's personality including said ability to create his web shooters.

Joss Whedon still has a good relationship with FOX (for some reason) and I would think an X-Men Crossover would happen WAY WAY WAY before a Spiderman crossover. Unfortunately, the only hope fans have is that Sony continues to go into the tank, sells off rights and Marvel buys them back.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Joss Whedon still has a good relationship with FOX (for some reason) and I would think an X-Men Crossover would happen WAY WAY WAY before a Spiderman crossover unfortunately. The only hope fans have is that Sony continues to go into the tank, sells off rights and Marvel buys them back.

I wouldn't hold your breath on FOX either. Good relationship or not, money talks and both sides would have to make MAJOR concessions to do a crossover.

and Spidey just seems like a complete pipe-dream. Avi Arad is delusional as to how important he believes Spiderman to be, especially now that the franchise is in a state of depreciating returns. each movie in this series has made less then the previous one (even with higher ticket prices, IMAX and 3D) and this entry into the franchise likely ends up with even less money then Cap 2... which is crazy. Spiderman making less then Captain America would have been unheard of just a couple years ago, but Marvel's mastery in putting together the Avenger series and continually pumping out superior product has left one of the three top Superheroes in the dust at this point.

 

[Covert Rain]

I wouldn't hold your breath on FOX either. Good relationship or not, money talks and both sides would have to make MAJOR concessions to do a crossover.

and Spidey just seems like a complete pipe-dream. Avi Arad is delusional as to how important he believes Spiderman to be, especially now that the franchise is in a state of depreciating returns. each movie in this series has made less then the previous one (even with higher ticket prices, IMAX and 3D) and this entry into the franchise likely ends up with even less money then Cap 2... which is crazy. Spiderman making less then Captain America would have been unheard of just a couple years ago, but Marvel's mastery in putting together the Avenger series and continually pumping out superior product has left one of the three top Superheroes in the dust at this point.

Oh, I don't think it would ever happen under the current circumstances. See my original post. I was more or less just responding the post above using a "what if" type scenario assuming there was hope. I still think with Sony's deteriorating financial state, it's a real possibility the rights could get auctioned off. I seriously doubt Disney would pass on the opportunity should it come up and that would be the more likely scenario. Completely agree with you on the state of the franchise.

 

[Gee!]

Saw it yesterday. I enjoyed it. But then again. I have never read a comic book in my life. So I had nothing holding me back from enjoying it..

 

[Bada0Bing]

I tried to like it, but I just can't get into this reboot. I enjoyed Raimi's version a lot, but these just seem to drag on.

 

[UncleChris]

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[NJCardFan]

Warning: Thread Necromancy With Spoilers



OK, finally got around to watching this and that's only because I bought, at Best Buy, the 3 Toby McGuire movies and the 2 Andrew Garfield movies for $10(DVD not Blu-Ray). It was somewhat OK. I HATED their portrayal of Max Dillon/Electro. Completely stupid. Max Dillon was never a bumbling middle aged Urkel who even his own mother hated(glad they deleted that scene. Ugh). Also, the way they turned Harry and Electro against Spider-Man was dumb too. No need to rewrite the story. The fight sequences, if you want to call them that, were OK. Also, Harry's transformation into the Goblin was ridiculous. I didn't realize spider venom could turn your teeth into points but I digress. And don't get me started on the Rhino only being in it for 2 minutes. I can see why they scrapped the whole thing to start over...again. As for Gwen, considering I think that Emma Stone is one of the hottest women on the planet, I enjoyed seeing her on the screen although, as was said, there was no chemistry between her and Garfield. However, her death actually made sense. Can't fall all that way and come to a sudden stop without causing a lit of damage to a normal human. Anyhoo, glad I finally saw it even though all in all I really didn't care for the Garfield movies and will still take the McGuire movies.