The Arizona Cardinals should not break the bank for Marquise Brown

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The Arizona Cardinals should not break the bank for Marquise Brown

After Kyler Murray perhaps no player has a more uncertain future on the Arizona Cardinals than Marquise Brown. “Hollywood” is scheduled to be a free agent.

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[RON_IN_OC]

I don't think they will have to.

 

[BirdGangThing]

With Conner out - I am even more inclined to trade Hollywood Brown

 

[RON_IN_OC]

With Conner out - I am even more inclined to trade Hollywood Brown

I think Brown and Murray will be joined at the hip. If Brown is traded, they've already made the decision to move on from Kyler. JMO

 

[Garthshort]

HB, as of now is our #1 WR, and he's pretty good. If Wilson or someone else becomes the #1 WR, then HB will be a VG #2. JMO.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Put him on the market and see what offers we get

 

[Cheesebeef]

HB, as of now is our #1 WR, and he's pretty good. If Wilson or someone else becomes the #1 WR, then HB will be a VG #2. JMO.

Only in a land of zero expectation is being ranked the 24th WR in the league considered “pretty good”. He’s a below average #1 WR.

He’s a pretty good #2 WR. But that’s his ceiling, IMO.

 

[oaken1]

Only in a land of zero expectation is being ranked the 24th WR in the league considered “pretty good”. He’s a below average #1 WR.

He’s a pretty good #2 WR. But that’s his ceiling, IMO.

There's 32 #1's... so if he isn't ranked dead last it is at least not arguable that he is a #1.
But he does have shades of a short Alvin harper... Harper found out football is much harder without someone else drawing all the coverage away from you.
We're we to land MHJ... lining brown up in the slot where he would often face linebackers and safeties would do wonders for his production IMO

 

[juza76]

There are few above average players on this roster, so should be logical tò keep him

 

[Cheesebeef]

There's 32 #1's... so if he isn't ranked dead last it is at least not arguable that he is a #1.

Right. He’s a bad #1. Yay. And that’s only because we have such little talent at WR. Literally, it’s him and Wilson. Everyone else is complete trash. Being a #1 on top of a trash heap ain’t nothing to boast about and you sure as hell don’t pay for top ten #1 salary for a guy at 24.

But he does have shades of a short Alvin harper... Harper found out football is much harder without someone else drawing all the coverage away from you.
We're we to land MHJ... lining brown up in the slot where he would often face linebackers and safeties would do wonders for his production IMO

Paying 20 million bucks for a short, #2 WR, who doesn’t block and drops passes is… exactly what the Cardinals would do.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Paying 20 million bucks for a short, #2 WR, who doesn’t block and drops passes is… exactly what the Cardinals would do.

They didn't do it with Kirk...

 

[SoonerLou]

@Crimson Warrior The one disappointing thing about Hollywood is didnt he seem faster at OU? Just seemed like his top speed was at another level. About on par with guys like Waddle. Its why I still thought he could be a #1 Wr even if he wasnt as complete as someone like Lamb.

I think Brown and Murray will be joined at the hip. If Brown is traded, they've already made the decision to move on from Kyler. JMO

Maybe.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Guys… this “he’s a #1 WR” because he’s ranked 24 and there’s 32 teams so he’s “technically a #1 WR” and we need to pay him as such… which is going to be 20 million, ala a top ten WR, has to die.

I mean… does that mean if we had Derek Carr, we should throw a commensurate massive contract? Afterall, he’s the 24th ranked QB. That makes him a #1 QB in the league!

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

If he starts swinging for a huge contract would let him walk. Would rather use that kind of money on a tee Higgins if he makes it to the market

 

[Crimson Warrior]

@Crimson Warrior The one disappointing thing about Hollywood is didnt he seem faster at OU? Just seemed like his top speed was at another level. About on par with guys like Waddle. Its why I still thought he could be a #1 Wr even if he wasnt as complete as someone like Lamb.

Maybe.

He was way more of a mismatch at the NCAA level I agree 1000%.

IMHO, there's such a huge, huge jump in the athleticism at NFL level that it makes him look kind of ordinary.

Still, put an at least average #1 on the field with him, and he'll get behind the defense more than he does now. Christian Kirk would when playing with DHop. I also think Hollywood is a component (#2 WR) of a championship winning team but of course it has to be for the right price.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Only in a land of zero expectation is being ranked the 24th WR in the league considered “pretty good”. He’s a below average #1 WR.

He’s a pretty good #2 WR. But that’s his ceiling, IMO.

24th out of over 150 players is pretty good.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

He was way more of a mismatch at the NCAA level I agree 1000%.

IMHO, there's such a huge, huge jump in the athleticism at NFL level that it makes him look kind of ordinary.

Still, put an at least average #1 on the field with him, and he'll get behind the defense more than he does now. Christian Kirk would when playing with DHop. I also think Hollywood is a component (#2 WR) of a championship winning team but of course it has to be for the right price.

100% agree, I think Hollywood Brown is an excellent #2 and paired with a true #1 could be lethal with the pressure moved off of him. I think we are all upbeat about Michael Wilson, but the kid, especially in his first year just cant take the heat off Hollywood. Last year we could almost never get Dhop, Kyler, and Hollywood Brown on the field together (what was it, like 1-2 games?) so feel like we really missed a chance to see him explode.

Hollywood could certainly be a part of a team that really turns the page with a few more key components, but half of everything is timing. If he demands a huge #1 money contract (which i imagine he will at his point in his career), timing is just off for him to be a part of the future and we should let him walk.

Regarding the #24 chatter - its easy to be top 25 when you are getting fed like Hollywood is (its one of the reasons I have him on my fantasy team lol), but just open the espn fantasy app and go down the WR list, its not to hard to see at least 25 WR that if offered, would hands down swap with zero hesitation.

 

[SoonerLou]

He was way more of a mismatch at the NCAA level I agree 1000%.

IMHO, there's such a huge, huge jump in the athleticism at NFL level that it makes him look kind of ordinary.

Still, put an at least average #1 on the field with him, and he'll get behind the defense more than he does now. Christian Kirk would when playing with DHop. I also think Hollywood is a component (#2 WR) of a championship winning team but of course it has to be for the right price.

We only got one game with Hollywood/Hopkins/Kyler. Just a shame.

 

[SoonerLou]

Is there a possibility (if we're picking 3rd) that we'd have a core of MHJ, Hollywood and Wilson?

Or does the money not make sense if we're locked in MHJ in the draft?

 

[TheCardFan]

We only got one game with Hollywood/Hopkins/Kyler. Just a shame.

And it wasn't great. A loss to Chargers.

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[Garthshort]

IMO, this is a silly argument. There are very few players that you break the bank for. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't pay a fair amount to resign. Hope we are able to draft a VG WR and pair him with Brown and Wilson.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Is there a possibility (if we're picking 3rd) that we'd have a core of MHJ, Hollywood and Wilson?

Or does the money not make sense if we're locked in MHJ in the draft?

Overthecap has us at 67 mil of cap space going into 2024, we definitely have the money. Now we really need to use that money to beef up the defense, but really should have enough to pay a WR. If we are dishing out #1 WR money though, Id rather see MHJ, Higgins, and Wilson. Team would truly be an offensive threat in any circumstance

 

[SoonerLou]

And it wasn't great. A loss to Chargers.

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He had an 86 QBR...

And thats with the interception being from when we inexplicably went for it on 4th down on our own 35.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

@Crimson Warrior The one disappointing thing about Hollywood is didnt he seem faster at OU? Just seemed like his top speed was at another level. About on par with guys like Waddle. Its why I still thought he could be a #1 Wr even if he wasnt as complete as someone like Lamb.

Maybe.

It’s been my biggest disappointment. He seems neither super fast nor super jittery.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

24th out of over 150 players is pretty good.

There aren’t 150 #1 receivers in the league. Cheese’s point is that he’s a good receiver but when deciding how to pay him you can’t pay him like a top #1 because he’s not that.