The Changing Composition of NFL Rosters

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The landscape of the NFL will change dramatically for even younger veteran players because of the CBA's Rookie Cap. When a player like Brees reportedly wants 20M per year and it forces them to leave players like Colston and Nicks unprotected the value of draft picks will go way up because they can yield cheaper players and the number of exorbitant FA contracts for 2nd/3rd contract players will go down because teams won’t be able to manage a cap with too many high priced players.

The team that drafts well and cultivates hidden gems that are undrafted along with serviceable and affordable vets will be the winners. They will still build around a couple high-priced stars like Fitz, Brees etc but when you start looking at the cost of paying a deep roster like Dockett, Cambell, Washington teams will be hard-pressed to extend first contract players sooner than they have to and I think there will be way more annual roster turn than in years past.

Guys like Dan Williams will be replaced by a cheaper alternative from the draft when his initial contract is ready to expire unless he is playing lights out. In years past an above average performance was rewarded with a retention contract in these situations but now the good to very good players may have their value lowered in the FA market.

As fans we want to look at the always ballooning TV contract as an endless supply but I think this will become a league of a few well paid superstars and then a roster of more affordable guys. "Affordable" by NFL standards is still an insane amount of money. Think about guys like Stewart Bradley when you think about what’s affordable, what should be expected in return for that investment and how patient you are waiting for the fruits of that investment.

As insane as we all think the Saints comments about Brees being "very good" were, I think it is just the beginning of trying to reprogram the players, agents and fans to be more realistic about compensation. The saints are the first to have to jump on the PR grenade.
 
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Good stuff, but would appreciate more paragraph breaks for scanning purposes. :)
 

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He has 5 paragraph beaks in there. Is it too hard for you to follow? I suggest less alcohol.

Bit of a smarmy mood eh.

10 minutes after CC's post Reddog edited his post. Mayhaps that's when he broke it out unto more paragraphs. Even if this is not the case the less alcohol comment is uncalled for.
 

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I feel bad for RBs under the new CBA. Many of those guys don't last near as long and with the new rookie contracts, they don't stand to make much over the course of their careers (relative to other positions)
 

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He has 5 paragraph beaks in there. Is it too hard for you to follow? I suggest less alcohol.

Keep up. He has 5 breaks now. I'm a teetottler who suggests you mind your own business.
 

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thanks for Smarmy

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A certain attitude often accompanied by a squinty look and a superior smile that makes you instantly hate a person. Similar to snobby


This is from 4/2009 - I'm gonna start writing for them again if Card fans don't mind! probably even if they do.

http://www.profootballcentral.com/2009/04/22/deal-the-cards/

There has been an on going feud Q or no Q with agent Drew Rosenhaus, Hell they made a movie about it! “See Jerry Maguire for more details” but the management or it’s philosophy was not featured in that movie. maybe a sequel, Little Billy Bidwill won’t move, can’t push Billy around Billy won’t budge. Not just because it’s bad for the Arizona Cardinals but Bill Bidwill will protect the NFL as a whole like he has for generations. Put it in the bank Drew you will lose again. Bill has already survived these burdens that have smushed lesser men, teams and leagues, it’s in the bank for better or worst.




Bit of a smarmy mood eh.

10 minutes after CC's post Reddog edited his post. Mayhaps that's when he broke it out unto more paragraphs. Even if this is not the case the less alcohol comment is uncalled for.
 
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Bit of a smarmy mood eh.

10 minutes after CC's post Reddog edited his post. Mayhaps that's when he broke it out unto more paragraphs. Even if this is not the case the less alcohol comment is uncalled for.

Yea went from Three to Five. Paragraphs that is, not to be confused with the standard term many of the Bengal and Cowboy Alumni served.
 

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The landscape of the NFL will change dramatically for even younger veteran players because of the CBA's Rookie Cap. When a player like Brees reportedly wants 20M per year and it forces them to leave players like Colston and Nicks unprotected the value of draft picks will go way up because they can yield cheaper players and the number of exorbitant FA contracts for 2nd/3rd contract players will go down because teams won’t be able to manage a cap with too many high priced players.

The team that drafts well and cultivates hidden gems that are undrafted along with serviceable and affordable vets will be the winners. They will still build around a couple high-priced stars like Fitz, Brees etc but when you start looking at the cost of paying a deep roster like Dockett, Cambell, Washington teams will be hard-pressed to extend first contract players sooner than they have to and I think there will be way more annual roster turn than in years past.

Guys like Dan Williams will be replaced by a cheaper alternative from the draft when his initial contract is ready to expire unless he is playing lights out. In years past an above average performance was rewarded with a retention contract in these situations but now the good to very good players may have their value lowered in the FA market.

As fans we want to look at the always ballooning TV contract as an endless supply but I think this will become a league of a few well paid superstars and then a roster of more affordable guys. "Affordable" by NFL standards is still an insane amount of money. Think about guys like Stewart Bradley when you think about what’s affordable, what should be expected in return for that investment and how patient you are waiting for the fruits of that investment.

As insane as we all think the Saints comments about Brees being "very good" were, I think it is just the beginning of trying to reprogram the players, agents and fans to be more realistic about compensation. The saints are the first to have to jump on the PR grenade.

That's always what it's been. You can have three max contract guys on each side of the ball, or six total on your roster, and then manage everyone else.

That's how the big boys do it. The difference is can you locate a solid enough roster of mid-level free agents and developing rookies to fill out the rest of your squad. The Steelers and Colts were excellent at doing this, the Pats haven't been as good at developing the elite talents.

I think the Cards can pay Campbell, Dockett, and Wilson at the same time. When Patrick Peterson's up then Dockett's number comes off.

What the Cards have been awful at is making sure that they retain their non-elite players. It's not like every free agent gets a mid-eight figure guarantee. The Cards tend to let their mid-level free agents leave and then pay a larger contract to a similar or worse player, like they did by letting Karlos Dansby leave and then signing Stewart Bradley a year later.

If the Cards had made smart decisions with the draft picks used on Cody Brown, Buster Davis, Alan Branch (we couldn't afforded the contract he got in Seattle, but didn't want it), Kenny Iwebma, and Herman Johnson--and to a lesser extent Jorrick Calvin, Rashad Johnson, and Andre Roberts--then the Cards wouldn't look so talent-poor as they did when free agency opened last year.

The Cards are about to make the same mistake this free agency cycle. They could likely sign Early Doucet to Chansi Stuckey's contract or a little more, but they're going to pay twice as much or more to get a guy who's not going to be able to do much more in a similar number of targets because Larry Fitzgerald takes up all the oxygen in the passing game.
 

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