The Event

[Gaddabout]

If that's the case, it hasn't been alluded to in the show. Right now the show is what it is.

It's called a red herring.

red herring: something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; a misleading clue.

 

[Pariah]

It's called a red herring.

red herring: something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; a misleading clue.

I know what a red herring is. But at this point it's not a red herring, unless you'd consider a murder-mystery that ultimately pins it on a character that's never introduced in the story as employing a red herring.

In order for a red herring to be employed as a story device, there needs to be options other than the red herring introduced. IMO, theories presented on message boards outside of the show don't count.

 

[Gaddabout]

I know what a red herring is. But at this point it's not a red herring, unless you'd consider a murder-mystery that ultimately pins it on a character that's never introduced in the story as employing a red herring.

In order for a red herring to be employed as a story device, there needs to be options other than the red herring introduced. IMO, theories presented on message boards outside of the show don't count.

You're drawing the conclusion the writers want you to conclude so they can flip it on you later. But there has been nothing presented so far to actually allow you to conclude who or what they are except the national security director's conclusion that they're not human.

 

[Pariah]

You're drawing the conclusion the writers want you to conclude so they can flip it on you later. But there has been nothing presented so far to actually allow you to conclude who or what they are except the national security director's conclusion that they're not human.

I could say that you're drawing conclusions that there is something else going on with nothing presented to support that. (I don't doubt they'll flip it on us later, but to call what's been presented thus far a red herring is premature).

As a viewer (or reader, or audience member) you can only work with your information at hand. That's why lost was so great; they gave you A LOT of information and a ton of red herrings.

EDIT: and having one of the characters that's been privy to these "people" in captivity for 60 years tell the audience that they're aliens isn't a "clue," it's how the writers communicate with their audience. JMHO

 

[dogpoo32]

WTF WAS WITH THAT ENDING?!?! I'm going to have nightmares...

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm really starting to get into this show. I've been somewhere between disappointed and cautiously optimistic since the pilot but it's finally won me over. I'm not real fond of the Jason Ritter/girlfriend sub-plot but I'm hooked on the show anyway.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

This show just doesn't work anymore. Stupidity rules and this past episode (the so-called Fall Finale) was just horribly made.

I find it funny that it's daytime in Washington DC. Next scene, nighttime where the Willow Brook hospital is as Sean and idiot girl break in. Next scene after that, Simon searching a guys house on the east coast and it's daylight. Then a shot of the missile silo and it's daylight, saying that our west coast would be vulnerable--again, all during the day! How is it that the Willow Brook part is taking place at night??

Stupid idiotic stuff like that is making this show almost unwatchable. That and stock characters like the President who won't abandon his ideals, the shady old man running everything and aliens! I guess we have the V competition.

Oh and the show is off the air until the end of February, in case anyone cares.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

The show sucks!!! Just stupid stupid crap. I turned it off in the middle of the son not being able to kill his alien mom!!! Just a horribly done scene...

 

[dogpoo32]

The show sucks!!! Just stupid stupid crap. I turned it off in the middle of the son not being able to kill his alien mom!!! Just a horribly done scene...

Is it just me or could that guy be Pauly Shore's brother? I think the character development of him and his mother has been terrible. I zone out in every one of their scenes. I do like agent Lee because he seems to have a stake in things, like he has emotions. I don't know if this is what they've gone for in showing his past and the woman he loved, but the others just seem akward.

 

[Chaplin]

Here's another issue: The "aliens" appear to be exactly like humans except they age slower. But a bunch of them have been in hospitals getting blood drawn, or operated on, or checked out by doctors, and there is literally NO difference between them and humans.

Pretty pathetic alien design if that's the case.

 

[Pariah]

Here's another issue: The "aliens" appear to be exactly like humans except they age slower. But a bunch of them have been in hospitals getting blood drawn, or operated on, or checked out by doctors, and there is literally NO difference between them and humans.

I haven't seen the most recent one, yet, so maybe there's been more information presented....but wasn't this specifically addressed when the secret service agent was in the hospital? I seem to remember something about one of his people sneaking in human blood or something. Admittedly, I haven't been paying super-close attention to this show and am often mutlitasking when it's on, but I think their blood/DNA is different.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

in the second episode I think they mentioned a 1% difference in DNA...

 

[Chaplin]

I haven't seen the most recent one, yet, so maybe there's been more information presented....but wasn't this specifically addressed when the secret service agent was in the hospital? I seem to remember something about one of his people sneaking in human blood or something. Admittedly, I haven't been paying super-close attention to this show and am often mutlitasking when it's on, but I think their blood/DNA is different.

You need to watch the next episode, because this is spoiled:

Spoiler

After the plane crash, Michael (Leila's dad) was one of the passengers that was in the hospital. And he suffered the same health issues all the other "humans" did from the plane.

Also, there are supposedly 300 of them living so-called normal lives, with children and wives/husbands. And they've been around for 75 years. I find it hard to believe they are able to replace blood vials thousands of times over that span of time.

 

[Chaplin]

in the second episode I think they mentioned a 1% difference in DNA...

Again, very poor alien design. Does that even make them aliens? If they still are aliens, after all. This thing with the satellite may be another lame attempt at misdirection by the writers.

If there's only a 1% difference in their DNA, what makes them such a threat? They're smart, ok. They live longer, ok. But really, why imprison them? Doesn't make any sense.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Also, there are supposedly 300 of them living so-called normal lives, with children and wives/husbands. And they've been around for 75 years. I find it hard to believe they are able to replace blood vials thousands of times over that span of time.

I'm an episode behind also but I'm not sure they would need to manipulate the blood tests. I just accepted that the difference in blood wasn't significant and wouldn't even show up unless they were specifically looking for it. Maybe that's not the case but, in real life, there are a lot of things in our bloodwork that do not show up unless specifically tested for so it's no stretch to apply that logic to human-like aliens.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

I'm an episode behind also but I'm not sure they would need to manipulate the blood tests. I just accepted that the difference in blood wasn't significant and wouldn't even show up unless they were specifically looking for it. Maybe that's not the case but, in real life, there are a lot of things in our bloodwork that do not show up unless specifically tested for so it's no stretch to apply that logic to human-like aliens.

Steve

Very true, but I think the point is that "human-like aliens" are just an awful character construction. Even though V is only marginally better than The Event, at least there is no mistaking that they are aliens.

IF the people in The Event are truly aliens, it seems stupid even from a writing standpoint to make them almost identical to humans.

A lot of the things thus far that have happened could have been done by an honest-to-goodness human. Even the sci-fi aspects of the show could integrate that.

The great thing about V (the original and update) is that while on the surface, you can't tell who is an alien and who isn't, after their skin is literally peeled away, there is no ambiguity about them being evil non-human creatures.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Very true, but I think the point is that "human-like aliens" are just an awful character construction. Even though V is only marginally better than The Event, at least there is no mistaking that they are aliens.

IF the people in The Event are truly aliens, it seems stupid even from a writing standpoint to make them almost identical to humans.

A lot of the things thus far that have happened could have been done by an honest-to-goodness human. Even the sci-fi aspects of the show could integrate that.

The great thing about V (the original and update) is that while on the surface, you can't tell who is an alien and who isn't, after their skin is literally peeled away, there is no ambiguity about them being evil non-human creatures.

I don't know, I think we could find just as much fault in that kind of alien as the one we're apparently seeing in the Event. Depite their appearance and their eating habits, the Visitor aliens are very much human in many ways. I'm just not sure that's anymore realistic than aliens that behave like us but also look like us.

Did you ever watch that really bad BBC sci-fi show called Space Precinct? I've seen it before and earlier this week I ran across it again on the SyFy channel and I remembered how silly I considered the aliens to be. They were OBVIOUSLY different than us on the surface but they moved, acted, talked and behaved just like humans. I actually think that one difference (appearance) makes the similarities even more absurd.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm not convinced they're just aliens? I wouldn't be surprised to find out they are our descendants but from a point in time when mankind has colonized other planets (hence the alien claim). They keep dropping hints about some terrible disaster that awaits us or that they will eventually inflict upon us so the future aspect seems plausible to me.

Steve

 

[jefftheshark]

They're illegal aliens, which is what makes the problem so difficult to deal with. I know this is a difficult problem because Blair Underwood squints and looks extremely pained in almost every scene as if his underwear is pinching him or it's too darn tight.

But back on topic, if I knew how to do a screen capture I'd prove it, but I don't so you'll have to trust me, however I believe in one of the early episodes when the Laura Innes character bent over to comfort someone else who couldn't act, you could see down her blouse and I'm sure I saw at least a dozen nipples, which generally says "alien" to me.

And not the Guatemalan kind of alien either, because they have only six or seven like the rest of us, but they sell them in order to get smuggled into the country.

JTS

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Again, very poor alien design. Does that even make them aliens? If they still are aliens, after all. This thing with the satellite may be another lame attempt at misdirection by the writers.

If there's only a 1% difference in their DNA, what makes them such a threat? They're smart, ok. They live longer, ok. But really, why imprison them? Doesn't make any sense.

in the same episode they said chimpanzees are only 2% different so They are different enough I guess. I can't believe I'm defending this show!