The fake punt play

[Russ Smith]

How in the world did they miss that call? First off, the guy with the ball wasn't even close, he was nearly a yard short. Even after they spotted it short on replay they still gave them too much yardage. But almost as bad what the hell happened to the rule that the offense can't help the ball carrier by pushing or pulling him forward? The only reason that call was missed was that his teammate was pulling him forward, when they fell down it looked like the ref got confused and spotted the ball where the pulling teammate, who didn't have the ball, went down?

That is supposed to be unsportsmanlike conduct but you see it constantly and they never call it.

I'm glad they got the call correct on replay but I can't believe they missed it live it wasn't even remotely close.

I also thought they missed the call where the Titan TE made the leaping catch and then Budda kicked the ball out of his hands. I thought he caught the ball went to the ground in control and held the ball until Budda came over and kicked it out. I was very surprised that wasn't reviewed and overturned.

 

[GatorAZ]

There was a more ridiculous spot a few plays later on a pass play. It was a first down regardless but the ref gave him an extra yard and a half. At least they overturned the fake punt.

 

[oaken1]

they changed the rule about helping the ball carrier advance

 

[pemory09]

How in the world did they miss that call? First off, the guy with the ball wasn't even close, he was nearly a yard short. Even after they spotted it short on replay they still gave them too much yardage. But almost as bad what the hell happened to the rule that the offense can't help the ball carrier by pushing or pulling him forward? The only reason that call was missed was that his teammate was pulling him forward, when they fell down it looked like the ref got confused and spotted the ball where the pulling teammate, who didn't have the ball, went down?

That is supposed to be unsportsmanlike conduct but you see it constantly and they never call it.

I'm glad they got the call correct on replay but I can't believe they missed it live it wasn't even remotely close.

I also thought they missed the call where the Titan TE made the leaping catch and then Budda kicked the ball out of his hands. I thought he caught the ball went to the ground in control and held the ball until Budda came over and kicked it out. I was very surprised that wasn't reviewed and overturned.

It’s legal now to push or drag a ball carrier for extra yardage.

 

[Russ Smith]

It’s legal now to push or drag a ball carrier for extra yardage.

thanks I didn't know that and that explains why it's never called.

 

[pemory09]

thanks I didn't know that and that explains why it's never called.

You’re welcome Russ. As you know, for many years it was illegal. However, like most things in football, the rule was changed, I suppose, to help offenses.

 

[PJ1]

I was losing it before the review. As you say not even close. Was also going nuts on the phantom holding call on Shipley.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I was scratching my head with the announcers. It's a run play and it was not called down, meaning there is no such thing as forward progress with the first surge by the runner since the play is still active. You can lose yards and the runner did and was nowhere close to the first

 

[football karma]

On one of the replays prior to challenge, they showed the ref run in, put his foot down for spot, and then place the back end of the ball down against his foot -- effectively giving the Titans one more length of the football.

How do you make that mistake?

 

[football karma]

And... How about a nice ST play being ready for the fake

 

[Bert]

I was scratching my head with the announcers. It's a run play and it was not called down, meaning there is no such thing as forward progress with the first surge by the runner since the play is still active. You can lose yards and the runner did and was nowhere close to the first

The announcers were so pro Titans it was silly. I get it was on CBS and they cover the AFC but still, be a professional...

 

[nashman]

There was a more ridiculous spot a few plays later on a pass play. It was a first down regardless but the ref gave him an extra yard and a half. At least they overturned the fake punt.

I saw that too the ref put the spot where the guy handed him the ball and I was like Wtf?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yeah the ref literally picked up the ball and moved it a full length forward from where it was on the ground...

I was shocked the announcers were saying it was close. You could easily tell from every replay that the runner was more than a foot short.

 

[Buckybird]

Yep it was terrible Jim absolutely terrible! I was screaming at the TV the worse I've done in years.

The problem which has infected the NFL refs of today IMO is that they guess what they see instead of calling what they actually see. I'm dead serious!

Thank goodness they got it right & for once BA got it right to challenge.

 

[ajcardfan]

I was at the stadium and even from 50 yards away maybe, I could NOT believe it was going to be reviewed even before they showed the replay.

It was just a terrible spot, the guy who made that spot should get fined it was so bad.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I also thought they missed the call where the Titan TE made the leaping catch and then Budda kicked the ball out of his hands. I thought he caught the ball went to the ground in control and held the ball until Budda came over and kicked it out. I was very surprised that wasn't reviewed and overturned.

I was wondering about that play also. Agree that it should have been reviewed.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

I was at a sports bar in St. Louis saying very loudly "Challenge the Spot Arians" because it was obvious the refs blew the call. Waitress came over asking if I was OK. No telling what I would have said if the refs would have confirmed the call.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

Yep it was terrible Jim absolutely terrible! I was screaming at the TV the worse I've done in years.

The problem which has infected the NFL refs of today IMO is that they guess what they see instead of calling what they actually see. I'm dead serious!

Thank goodness they got it right & for once BA got it right to challenge.

I was yelling also begging BA to challenge the spot

 

[cardpa]

Happened in the Rams Eagles game too. Receiver caught the ball and had it in his hand on the side away from the direction they were going and was immediately tackled and by any measure a yard short of the first down and the referee spotted the ball right on the first down spot. They even brought out the chains to measure it and gave the first down to the Rams before the Eagles coach challenged it and it was overturned.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yep it was terrible Jim absolutely terrible! I was screaming at the TV the worse I've done in years.

The problem which has infected the NFL refs of today IMO is that they guess what they see instead of calling what they actually see. I'm dead serious!

Thank goodness they got it right & for once BA got it right to challenge.

I pointed this out earlier in the year and someone said it's actually what the refs are being taught. The refs spot the ball on the closest yard marker. So if you're on the 21.46 yard line, they spot it on the 21, if you're at 21.52, they spot it at the 22 yard line. Apparently someone decided over time it will even out, and completely ignored the impact of spotting the ball often nearly a half yard long or short just to make it easier by picking a line.

I'm glad they got the call right on replay but the longer it took on the replay the more concerned I got they were going to blow that too

 

[Harry]

thanks I didn't know that and that explains why it's never called.

Actually the response to you was not correct. It was made legal to push the ball carrier of surrounding scrum forward. It is still not legal to pull a ball carrier

Article 4: Other Prohibited Acts. No offensive player may:
(a) pull a runner in any direction at any time;

Officials are getting worse & worse. So many do not properly call this rule even though the league has sent out numerous clarifications to try to achieve uniform enforcement.

 

[AZfaninMN]

On one of the replays prior to challenge, they showed the ref run in, put his foot down for spot, and then place the back end of the ball down against his foot -- effectively giving the Titans one more length of the football.

How do you make that mistake?

I was screaming when I saw that replay. I couldn’t believe that weems was tackled and after he was down reached the ball out an extra foot or 2 and the ref moved it even further after that. They gained about 3 feet from when weems was trying to stand up to where the ball was marked. I couldn’t do anything but laugh at that point because I was so confused about what happened that I was confused how to act lol