The film indicates that arm strength is the problem

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Pope has to catch those high passes because thats where the QB should be throwing to take advantage of his height. At 6'8" those high passes are almost impossible to defend.

Flores said the same thing on Raiders tv said high ball but Pope has to catch that.

The problem with high passes of course is they are much more liable to be picked off if missed, a low pass ends up in the turf, a high pass gets tipped and can be picked like that one nearly was.

Matt really had only one really nice throw in the game the one he threaded to Q amongst a crowd that was a perfect throw hit him in stride. Beyond that he was really off Saturday.
 

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I am starting to think that those two shoulder injuries have turned him into a more expensive Chad Pennington, which isn't a bad thing, but it looks like he is struggling to readjust his game making throws he may not be able to make anymore after those injuries.

Remember that bomb against Seattle his rookie year he nailed to BJ I think it was? Last night to Fitz was the same play but had a lot less zip to it. Good observation Timm!

Chad Pennington has never looked scared, played soft or dodged the media after a poor performance. He has never whined or pouted.

Offseason reports were that Matt was stronger than ever and had set a personal best of 275 lbs in bench press.

His arm strength has always been adequate and he didn't show a lack of strength in his throws in camp nor in the first two pre-season games.

Sorry, Timm and ct, your explanations of the poor throws are difficult to accept. But if you are correct, all the more reason to look elsewhere for a healthy QB to develop.
 

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Despite all the talk ref Lienart's arm strength, his decision making was way too tentative. Too slow for the NFL.
 

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I love how we are all worried about having a QB who can stretch the field by throwing deep ball when we complain that we don't have solid deep threat.
 

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The excuse making for Leinart is quite epic...and it all contributes to how pampered this player is.

Reminds me of all the excuse making for another QB on our roster.
 

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I love how we are all worried about having a QB who can stretch the field by throwing deep ball when we complain that we don't have solid deep threat.

Yeah. The other great thing is that all the Warner lovers say, "he throws more interceptions but at least he's throwing the ball downfield." Matt throws interceptions downfield and they're all over him for it.
 

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I love how we are all worried about having a QB who can stretch the field by throwing deep ball when we complain that we don't have solid deep threat.

Yep as bad as those 2 balls were it again illustrated the lack of speed at WR, Fitz was blanketed, the safety was easily behind Anquan.

To get a good deep ball we either have to outjump someone, have someone fall down, or really sucker them with a fake.

Hopefully Breaston will help in that regard.
 

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Leinart obviously played job-scared and let the pressure get to him. He may have missed the throws by 10 yards, but that doesn't mean he woke up and couldn't play anymore. He was tight and aiming the ball & didn't want to go 3-and-out. Once the first pass was picked off it got worse.

But you are really letting three throws of a preseason game take too much importance. It's over, you guys. Let the man try to rebound in the next game and see where we go from there. I missed the part in the rulebook where a bad throw in preseason equals a horrible season/career forthcoming. Kurt Warner was cut in preseason once or twice, wasn't he?

Warner forces the ball a lot, every game, but we don't carefully dissect each of his interceptions, especially in preseason. I stand by my conviction that Warner can throw for more yards than Leinart, but is not as coachable and does not protect the football. If you take away the injury/fatigue factor and the consistently forced balls, I would agree that Warner the best guy between the two right now.

Russ, I'm not sure you see a lot of throws in the NFL anymore where the receiver just beats the DB by three yards by sprinting past them. With Cover 2 a team can keep your receivers in front of them as long as they choose to (and are willing to give up the space underneath). I think completing the long ball in this day & age is a matter of well-placed balls by the QB and the WR's winning the physical/jump battle.

Boldin and Fitz don't have great track speed, but they do have superb functional speed and vertical jumps. If we get our QB in a rhythm and wear down a defense, the big plays will happen naturally.
 

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He certainly doesn't look like the guy who took apart the Bears on the infamous Monday night game. I think he's playing a little "tight" with Warner looking over his shoulder. It seems like he's either forcing things or hesitating not wanting to make a mistake. To me it's more mental than physical. I think it might be good for him to start the season as the back up.

I read a lot and hear lot we are messing with his head because Warner might start. Dam, this is the NFL dude. You better not let something like this make you incapable of playing to your full abilities. What are you going to do with 1 minute left on the clock and you are 6 down and on your own 20? We need to stop worrying about Matt's psyche and for 10 mil he makes needs to start playing football. Hire your own personal therapist if that is what it takes.
 
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