The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

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Bull puckey. Used the eagles in LOTR, and they were merely a part of a final army (the beasts) that aided in winning the day in the Hobbit. The problem is, Jackson decided to just use the eagles and show Beorn dropping in, probably thinking people would be happy to recognize them. Blame Jackson, not Tolkien.



Also, Tom Bombadil was cool as all get out :)


No he wasn't. Worst character ever in print.
 

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I never read The Hobbit, but I read the LOTR series. Don't remember their stubbornness or arrogance talked about all that much.


Gandalf talks extensively about it in The Hobbit - the first encounter when the Eagles rescue them from the Orcs. That is the set up to understand the Eagles in all of Tolkien's books.
 

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Saw this Christmas Day with Alex. I have read the Hobbit 25+ times, Alex never.

Enjoyed the movie mostly - had to disassociate myself from the book. The parts with Thorin dragged far too long. Legolas/Taurial/Kili's story was way to forced, and not needed.
 

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Book spoiler:

In the book, the Eagles/Beorn at the end are mentioned in summary, because in the book, Frodo has been knocked out cold during the battle while invisible and has to be told by Gandalf that they came in at the end to help win the battle.
 

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This is obviously joking, but the eagles, to my understanding, were a higher form of intelligence and were extremely stubborn and arrogant.

Them just showing up is a little convenient, but the books are pretty clear as to why the eagles weren't in the story more.

In the Hobbitt movie, I believe it was Radagast that fetched them.

The best way to sum up the Eagles is to basically call them the bird equivalent of Elves. They were proud, very intelligent, a bit haughty, kept generally to themselves and spoke the common tongue. The Jackson movies would leave one to believe that they were basically sitting around the nest all day just waiting to be called for something. Not true, of course. Since from their view, they usually didn't have much of an iron in the fire, they required powerful, persuasive argument to get them to join in a fight. The biggest of all Eagles (from the first age) had a wingspan of 180 feet.

As to the movie itself, I agree that it was definitely the best of the 3, but that really isn't saying all that much. The good news (for me anyway) was that the effects were quite good and I did not find it overly long. However, I have a long list of what I found to be bad news. This Legolas shared only the same actor for the character: Legolas is a total arse in the Hobbit. The love story sucked. The horrible use of Galadriel in this series is nauseating. Yes, the "Orc under the ice" sequence was just plain bad. A dwarve throwing around 1 ton rocks all by himself was eyerolling. Sure glad Thorin's men found that big "bugle" to blow. Etc. Etc. Etc. A lot was just short of Yakety Sax sort of thing.

Lotsa action (maybe too much action) kept it moving, but after awhile, my bride and I found ourselves saying, can we have a bit of a break here?

I'll be charitable and give it a 2.9 out of 5 stars.
 

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I love all the jokes about Frodo walking all the way when the eagles could have flown him. But at least in the movies, the way Jackson sets up the eye of Sauron, it seems likely that eagles would have been seen long before they got to Mount Doom, and Nazgul seem to be pretty close by. Perhaps riskier than it might seem. What should have happened in the movie is that this question should have been asked and answered, regardless.
 
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