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I am trying to look at it like that as well but some of the characters aren't doing anything for me anymore. The mom is the main one. She is pretty much only there to tell Linden that she isn't doing anything.

Also I want to know what happened to Rosie's ex-boyfriend and her jealous friend? They sure made it seem like she knew something earlier in the season and now I can't remember the last episode she was in.

I like the show and it is still better than most on tv at this point but the way AMC has produced their shows this seems like a let down. As I said earlier I hope they get a second season so they can fix their problems because they showed this can be a compelling new take on the cop genre but as of right now they just fell back into the same routine that most shows do.

yeah it's not perfect that's for sure they are clearly doing the throw the audience a red herring thing over and over.

With the mom I think it's not a likable character but maybe one that's pretty real? Growing up the oldest daughter of our next door neighbors got brain cancer and died a pretty agonizing death. Her parents divorced and the mom never recovered, she was about as mean a person as you can imagine. She also spoiled her younger daughter rotten with money, but totally ignored her, wasn't there for her as a mom.

I remember when that girl was getting out of HS she had a real attitude and I thought what happened to that girl I knew as a kid(I was 2-3 years older) but now as I look back I know exactly what happened. Her sister dying completely tore that family apart and she was so young at the time it completely altered her life.

I think that's the situation being dealt with by the mom right now she has to find a way to grieve for Rosie, without destroying her marriage and abandoning her 2 sons.

Maybe that's why that part really fascinates me, because I saw something similar happen in real life growing up.
 

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I like this show a lot, but any other Twin Peaks fans that kind of laugh at the striking similarities between the shows?

I enjoy watching The Killing, but they have clearly borrowed a considerable amount from Twin Peaks.
 

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this show officially lost me as a viewer after tonight's episode. there are three episodes lefts (two after tonight) and for an hour you just COMPLETELY stall. literally, NOTHING for an hour but trying to find Jack who'd gone missing?

beyond lame.
 

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this show officially lost me as a viewer after tonight's episode. there are three episodes lefts (two after tonight) and for an hour you just COMPLETELY stall. literally, NOTHING for an hour but trying to find Jack who'd gone missing?

beyond lame.
I thought it was a good episode, but its timing was bad. I get that they are really trying to develop these two characters and the chemistry between them, but it should have happened a bit sooner. I didn't mind them devoting a whole episode to it like they did, but with the show almost over, I'm afraid that now they will rush to wrap up the case.
 

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I thought it was a good episode, but its timing was bad. I get that they are really trying to develop these two characters and the chemistry between them, but it should have happened a bit sooner. I didn't mind them devoting a whole episode to it like they did, but with the show almost over, I'm afraid that now they will rush to wrap up the case.

That's the crazy thing, it was probably the show's best episode since the pilot. This episode probably should have been in the first third of the run since they finally explained who Linden is.

I am going to finish off this season but they are have to make some major changes at the top for me to watch season 2 of this show, if they even get another chance. The funny thing is if this show were on CBS I would probably say it was great but I expect so much more out of AMC.
 

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The episode started by saying "day eleven", yet it seems as if they have only worked on the case itself for half of that time. Otherwise they have been chasing personal demons and problems on the city's dime.

To make matters worse they portrayed Indian casinos in a bad light and got a few things about them wrong. Including the video (minimum of 7days required to be kept, ATMs having cameras in them that would not be under the control of the casino or tribe, and the fact they would be so unwilling to assist).

Also wouldn't Linden's calls include the dad? It would seem a pretty logical thing, crazy that a cop would do that.
 

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And while I am complaining, what is up with not knowing that Adela is a freaking ferry? And why wouldn't the casino's logo not be immediately recognizable? Hell if it was a Gila River Casino or Casino Arizona logo, I would imagine a city detective would know what it was.

Also if the feds were after Bennett and the other guy how come the feds didn't crack down on them when they went to the safehouse?

Also why did they take so long to check with the cab company?

Season 2 is highly unlikely from me if they get re-upped. Too much time invested into a show that seems to send you on a wild goose chase just so the cops can have the next lead dropped into their laps.
 

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Yeah the last episode seemed to really nail it. I'm sure the reveal at the end isn't the end of it based on the whole season, but it was pretty cool.

I only hope season 2 won't still be the Rosie Larsen murder, and will be about another case.


I thought I picked up the fact somewhere that there was going to be another murder in the last episode...can't remember where I heard it. That should set it up for next year
 

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I've been going over each episode and have a good idea who did it but this show is very well written so I could be surprised.
 

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Done. I will not watch another episode of this show. What an awful mess this is and to think AMC is bringing back the entire creative team that pretty much tossed up it's middle finger to the entire viewership of their show.

I mean really, how can you promote the show as 'who killed Rosie Larsen?' and then proceed to never tell us a thing about her so we don't care about her and then never even come close to telling us who the killer is? Every single person they implicated was a joke and it was usually cleared up in the first 2 minutes of the next episode. If they didn't clear it up right away they ended up getting hurt by vigilante justice.

One thing that stuck in my mind which made it clear the writers don't know anything (and there were a ton of these but this is the most glaring):
Why the hell would Holder actually send in a request using Linden's badge when he was framing Richmond? Seriously? And I am sure in the first scene of the first episode of season 2 he will have a great explanation for who he was talking to that will clear up the whole situation so they can go chase the next suspect who has no connection to the murder

I can't believe AMC actually renewed this show. I'm hoping they can retroactively cancel this thing and get something better in its place. Hell I'd be happy if they created a show of just Holder (obviously forgetting everything that happened in this show) with a whole new creative team that actually knew how to make a compelling show. I am willing to guess that the 2nd season is going to see it's ratings drop off a cliff and will be cancelled before they finish half the season. It is too bad because this show had a ton of promise and it never went anywhere.
 

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I am not sure at what point they decided not to resolve the case in the first season. Wasn't it originally supposed to be a mini-series? A lot of the plot now seems contrived. They have fallen into the same traps as 24 did after its first season, constantly misleading the viewer and flip-flopping characters' motives and allegiances just to fill more time. In the process they have made the leading character seem completely incompetent at her job.

Oh well, I'll still probably watch season two just out of curiosity.
 

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I am not sure at what point they decided not to resolve the case in the first season. Wasn't it originally supposed to be a mini-series? A lot of the plot now seems contrived. They have fallen into the same traps as 24 did after its first season, constantly misleading the viewer and flip-flopping characters' motives and allegiances just to fill more time. In the process they have made the leading character seem completely incompetent at her job.

Oh well, I'll still probably watch season two just out of curiosity.
Yup, Ive been busy on Sunday nights and I hadn't caught this show in a good month. Can't says I missed too much as far as where the show has gotten.
My moola was on the guy trying to bust a cap in the Councilman (not looking good on that hunch), that and the preggo chick that is with the teacher (she couldn't have done it on her own). If it's the councilman after all this ...meh.

What was up with the frame job pic at the end of the episode?
 

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I am not sure at what point they decided not to resolve the case in the first season. Wasn't it originally supposed to be a mini-series?

I thought I heard it was supposed to be a case a year, especially since the Danish series was a case a year. I guess it was my mistake to assume but still what a waste of such potential.
 

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I still enjoyed the show in spite of it's faults. I was disappointed like many of you when the case wasn't solved at the end...I feel they could have resolved it and left one dangling for next year.

leaving the whole thing for another year is, well, who knows if I'll be interested then
 

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Not only did it piss me off, I knew it was going to piss me off before I even watched it.

Anytime the teaser quote is "wait for the last 5 minutes, it will blow your mind". You already know you are going to get screwed. Translation for that line reads "after wasting your time in 13 episodes, we are going to shock the crap out of in just a 5 minute period without actually answering anything". 24 did this ploy all the time and it got super annoying.

They could have easily ended the show with a real killer, then have the killer say something that leads to an even bigger conspiracy for season 2.

They waited until the very last episode to try and finally make you feel sorry for the dead girl. When the lead detective did her whole turn left versus right speech when they were searching the field. Seriously writters, 13 episodes to make you finally feel sorry for the kid.

Was the original show this was based on this disappointing as well?
 

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I was disappointed in the reveal at the end, but after years of Lost and them doing that over and over, I guess I don't hold it against a show now because honestly if you tie everything up in one season you might not get a second?

I wasn't nearly as disappointed as it sounds like others were.
 

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They could have went the award winning jaw dropping bomb style but they didn't. They could have wrapped up the girl's murder and recanted all the signs we could have picked up on in some cinema flashback replay. But that would have been cool. That was want I wanted.

Then as the little detective was boarding the plane, she gets a call from the street cop/detective saying somebody else just got wacked. They wouldn't even have to say who! "You'll never believe this...we have another body."

Or something like that, I just thought of all that while typing all this and I think it's better than their fall in line style played out cliffhangers. I sure am bitching a lot today, I should go chill out and listen to some Bob Marley. :)
 

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Here are two interviews the show runner (Veena Sud) for the Killing has done. In both it seems like she has no clue. I love how she compared her show to Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and the Sopranos.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-a...ing-showrunner-veena-sud-on-the-season-finale

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/killing-showrunner-responds-finale-backlash-204728

to paraphrase Llyod Bensen: "Veena, I've seen and known Breaking Bad, Mad Men and the Sopranos... and The Killing is no Breaking Bad, Mad Men or The Sopranos."
 
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