The Shark Plan - some crazy ideas from a newbie

[Divide Et Impera]

Ooooo man, he got you with this comeback. Nothing left to say--it's the end-all of comebacks!

Not yet.....

Red AF can still respond with, "I know you are but what am I."

Then finally Bobcat can end it by saying, "You are one degree more of an a-hole than you can ever say I am."

THAT would end it....

 

[azdad1978]

Good post.

But why do you, and many others on this board feel Boldin, and Fitz are similar players?

I see them as quite different, almost complete opposites of each other.

Peace

Because both are big physical Wideout that can catch but can't get behind a defender thats why they are almost the same type WR.

 

[azdad1978]

Wow, you make being an A-hole look easy.

Takes one tro know one--A-HOLE

Can't we all just get along?

 

[red desert]

Jeff, you're allright.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

stop with the name calling or I'm gonna have to break out my peacemaker

Ewww


I dont want to see anyones 'peacemaker'

 

[Evil Ash]

Not yet.....

Red AF can still respond with, "I know you are but what am I."

Then finally Bobcat can end it by saying, "You are one degree more of an a-hole than you can ever say I am."

THAT would end it....

I don't know about that because Red AF still has the "I'm rubber, you're glue..." defense

 

[AzCards21]

stop with the name calling or I'm gonna have to break out my peacemaker

Don't ************ back there!!!

 

[WisconsinCard]

I
OFFENSE

QB - Trade RFA McCown to the Packers for RFA Craig Nall. Nall has the strong arm DG likes, plus has better pocket presence than Josh. .

The Shark

How do you trade a (now) starting QB for a third string QB. They better throw in something else with that trade. He couldn't even beat out petterson for the back up job. Nall is an interesting prospect but GB isn't still looking for Favre replacement for nothing. If we proposed that trade GB would jump at it.

 

[FischerKing]

THIS IS BY FAR THE DUMBEST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THIS FORUM. NALL FOR JOSH...??????????

BOBCAT

nall is a good qb and in my opinion is better than pederson and should have been the no. 2 guy behind favre for the past two seasons. instead, sherman has done everything he can to get the guy gone - even cutting him from the team last year - only to have to bring him back and put him as no. 3 on the depth chart.

this last season when he had to come in and play for favre (because pederson was hurt) he handled himself very well, and was very efficient running the offense. he's a couple of inches taller than favre, the same weight and has a huge arm - just a cannon. if given a proper chance he'd be a very good starter in this league for sure - unfortunately, while sherman is in green bay, i don't think it's going to happen there. some team is going to be lucky and get a real gem with him as their qb. i've been singing this guys praises for the past 3 seasons now - he should be favre's heir apparent but sherman is too much of an idiot to know any better.

shawn

 

[FischerKing]

How do you trade a (now) starting QB for a third string QB. They better throw in something else with that trade. He couldn't even beat out petterson for the back up job. Nall is an interesting prospect but GB isn't still looking for Favre replacement for nothing. If we proposed that trade GB would jump at it.

c'mon man - nall is better than pederson and i think he's proven that. sherman just has a chip on his shoulder about him for some reason. and if you're going to take anything sherm does as being "the right move" then you haven't been paying attention since he took over the team.

he's had terrible drafts, his fa pick-ups are atrocious and he hasn't been able to retain good talent. and when the good talent leaves - especially on defense - he hasn't done a very adequate job at replacing them. since ron wolfe left this team has consistently gone down hill each season.

i was glad that they took the gm role away from him - i hope that this is his last season as head coach - he's not that good at running the team and i don't think he's that good at judging talent.

shawn

 

[FischerKing]

I don't know about that because Red AF still has the "I'm rubber, you're glue..." defense

then there is still the infamous "it takes one to know one and you're the one to know" line.

shawn

 

[JeffGollin]

Welcome Sharkster.

Before I tear into you, please make mine a tourine of Ciopino and a glass of Lambrusco.

Trade scenarios seldom come to fruition because it takes 2 teams to bring off the trade which, in turn means (a) each team has to want the other team's player, (b) has to be willing to give up the player that the other team wants, (c) depending on the contract clauses, sometimes each player has to be willing to approve the trade, and (d) it has to make sense value-wise and cap-wise. Add to this the fact that other teams may be vying for the same player and there's always the free agent option and things can get pretty tangled up.

Each trade, therefore, becomes unlikely and trying to pull off a series of trades in concert with one another becomes close to impossible.

It's easy for us fans to pull of this kind of maneuvering using our favorite Fantasy Football or Madden 2005 software. But we're talking real life here.

(Of course, I'm the guy who who observed that the likelihood of Norm Chow giving up his million dollar USC contract to make a lateral move into the pros was pretty slim).

 

[SuperSpck]

Moss isn't the answer that this team needs. Offensive coaching is. There were times when the wideouts were open and were overlooked for whatever reason. Give McCown and whoever else a shot to figure out a better system and get some more experience. A super fly Moss does no one any good if he doesn't have the ball at the end of the play (not to mention the poop fit he'd throw when he didn't).
Point 2: In Quan's rookie year he was stellar, and after recovering from his injury this year he still looked good. So what's the one thing better than a talented young reciever? A near match to him on the field at the same time. Fast is fast enough, Quan proved his rookie year you don't have to be a "burner" to make plays. The coaching staff just needs to move Boldin back to his rook position and continue to use mismatches where ever they find them. I'd like to see Quan and Larry Fi hang out and win a championship here.


Kool Aid I.V.? Check. Refreshing sugar water beverage? Check. New jersey with updated look and logo? Awww crap, hurry up with those.

 

[cardinal steve]

Although Moss may help this team, I would not give up Fitz or Q for him so the trade would not happen anyway. Because everyone knows they would ask for one of them includedin a trade scenerio plus picks.....NO THANKS!! Besides we are set at WR we should be focused on RB, CB, O-Linemen, Vet QB to compete in camp and maybe a solid DT would be nice

 

[Jaccoob]

Originally Posted by WisconsinCard
How do you trade a (now) starting QB for a third string QB. They better throw in something else with that trade. He couldn't even beat out petterson for the back up job. Nall is an interesting prospect but GB isn't still looking for Favre replacement for nothing. If we proposed that trade GB would jump at it.


Is'nt this the same Craig Nall who never played in college and could'nt beat out Rohan Davey at L.S.U. another life-long NFL backup......?? I think the guy has a arm but there's got to be some reason he's always been a backup..

 

[Bobcat]

nall is a good qb and in my opinion is better than pederson and should have been the no. 2 guy behind favre for the past two seasons. instead, sherman has done everything he can to get the guy gone - even cutting him from the team last year - only to have to bring him back and put him as no. 3 on the depth chart.

this last season when he had to come in and play for favre (because pederson was hurt) he handled himself very well, and was very efficient running the offense. he's a couple of inches taller than favre, the same weight and has a huge arm - just a cannon. if given a proper chance he'd be a very good starter in this league for sure - unfortunately, while sherman is in green bay, i don't think it's going to happen there. some team is going to be lucky and get a real gem with him as their qb. i've been singing this guys praises for the past 3 seasons now - he should be favre's heir apparent but sherman is too much of an idiot to know any better.

shawn

Name is pronounced NAHL
Has served as Green Bay's No. 3 quarterback for each of the past two years
Late last season, closed out the Packers' Monday night victory at Oakland by taking the final two snaps and kneeling down for the first league action of his NFL careerWas an All-NFL Europe selection in 2003, when he led the spring league in yards passing (2,050), touchdown passes (18) and passer rating (95.9)
Turned down scholarship offer from then-University of Florida coach Steve Spurrier, who didn't recruit Louisiana but still offered Nall a full ride only a few days after first watching him at the Gators' camp for high school athletes.

I guess taking a kneetwo times makes him The futre of GB. Saw him play in NFLE and didn't impress. Plays to much like Jake did here. 2 good plays then 3 very bad plays. Cannot go to the play offs that way now can we.


BOBCAT!!!

 

[WisconsinCard]

c'mon man - nall is better than pederson and i think he's proven that. sherman just has a chip on his shoulder about him for some reason. and if you're going to take anything sherm does as being "the right move" then you haven't been paying attention since he took over the team.

he's had terrible drafts, his fa pick-ups are atrocious and he hasn't been able to retain good talent. and when the good talent leaves - especially on defense - he hasn't done a very adequate job at replacing them. since ron wolfe left this team has consistently gone down hill each season.

i was glad that they took the gm role away from him - i hope that this is his last season as head coach - he's not that good at running the team and i don't think he's that good at judging talent.

shawn

I said he was an interesting prospect. If what you say is true then why after he was cut nobody called. He is no where near Pederson. He will never be a NFL starting QB. I'm no GM but I wouldn't trade Navarre for him.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I would rather trade Fitz and his big contract for Moss. Boldin is the shiznit.


Henry sucks he's not explosive and doesn't get big runs.

Craig M-Fing Nall are you joking. Who the h*ll is that. He's a joke, why do you think the Packers are always looking for a Favre replacement.

I would much rather:

#1 Sign Brad Johnson

Never bash someones opinion and then come back with Brad "Put me in the Grave" Johnson. You kinda lose a whole lotta credibility.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I guess taking a kneetwo times makes him The futre of GB. Saw him play in NFLE and didn't impress. Plays to much like Jake did here. 2 good plays then 3 very bad plays. Cannot go to the play offs that way now can we.

Actually yes we can and did!

 

[Bobcat]

Actually yes we can and did!

But only once, when he had a team around him who could play. Abd that was before Jake got his big contract, that helped to distroy this team for years as we all know.

Bobcat

 

[CaptTurbo]

But only once, when he had a team around him who could play. Abd that was before Jake got his big contract, that helped to distroy this team for years as we all know.

Bobcat

Hey I was just responding to the "you cannot make it to the playoffs like that" remark.

 

[Duckjake]

But only once, when he had a team around him who could play. Abd that was before Jake got his big contract, that helped to distroy this team for years as we all know.

Bobcat

Well most QB's who make the playoffs have a team around them who can play. Can't think of anyone other than Vick who can single handedly take a team to the playoffs.

Regardless, for the last 30 years, with that one exception, it really hasn't made any difference who was playing QB for the Cardinals the records were always the same.