The Suns' search for a New Coach Thread

[Finito]

TNT crew having a really good discussion about coaching

 

[Mainstreet]

TNT crew having a really good discussion about coaching

Any hints about who the Suns will hire?

 

[GatorAZ]

Vogel got fired because the timing of the Westbrook debacle but he won a title in the bubble. In 2013 the Pacers were one win from the Finals vs the 66-16 Miami Heat with peak Lebron. He can coach.

 

[Covert Rain]

Not excited about what is left but I would take Vogel over Young.

 

[Proximo]

Not excited about what is left but I would take Vogel over Young.

I understand people not being excited by young, but for all we know he was making a ton of suggestions that Monty was vetoing.

I really don’t think it’s fair to judge him Based on his time here as an assistant. Also if Book wants him he probably impressed him somehow. I don’t think book wants a pushover coach, that’s not his personality.

 

[Finito]

Vogel got fired because the timing of the Westbrook debacle but he won a title in the bubble. In 2013 the Pacers were one win from the Finals vs the 66-16 Miami Heat with peak Lebron. He can coach.

I agree he was the fall guy for GM Lebron screwing that roster over

I’d be happy with him

 

[Finito]

Any hints about who the Suns will hire?

No they just talked about how important a coach is. Kenny and Barkley agreed that a “coach can’t give you confidence but he can take it away from players”

 

[JerkFace]

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Just ran across this and thought it was interesting that Gambo said a couple of days ago that he didn’t expect a Suns hire by Memorial Day.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Covert Rain]

I understand people not being excited by young, but for all we know he was making a ton of suggestions that Monty was vetoing.

I really don’t think it’s fair to judge him Based on his time here as an assistant. Also if Book wants him he probably impressed him somehow. I don’t think book wants a pushover coach, that’s not his personality.

I am not saying this is not true but you take the chance he was part of the problem. If he was, you just saddled this team with more of the same problem for the next several years and likely during this window. This team needs fresh blood.

 

[Yuma]

The Phoenix Suns have narrowed their head-coaching search to Doc Rivers, Frank Vogel and Kevin Young as they prepare to fill the vacancy left by the firing of Monty Williams, according to Arizona Sports’ John Gambadoro.

 

[Finito]

Actually I’d like Vogel

 

[Yuma]

The only "knock" I have on Kevin Young, is when Willie Green left, you could see the drop off of the Suns. Hypothetically, Kevin Young should have raised the bar for us, and we wouldn't have noticed a drop off.

 

[Finito]

The only "knock" I have on Kevin Young, is when Willie Green left, you could see the drop off of the Suns. Hypothetically, Kevin Young should have raised the bar for us, and we wouldn't have noticed a drop off.

Yeah that’s a good point

 

[BirdGangThing]

Nobody wants Kevin Young, I don't think he's even interviewed anywhere else. We can't go from Monty Williams to Kevin Young

And don't you dare bring Doc Rivers to this franchise

So I guess I'm leaning Vogel

We're going to have offense, Book and KD should make sure of that. Granted, we can definitely use some more offensive pieces, particularly on the bench, but Vogel would bring defense and defense is what wins championships

 

[AzStevenCal]

I am not saying this is not true but you take the chance he was part of the problem. If he was, you just saddled this team with more of the same problem for the next several years and likely during this window. This team needs fresh blood.

We have no idea if he can be effective as a Head Coach so I could see passing on him but I wouldn't be at all concerned that he was "part of the problem".

 

[Finito]

“Phoenix has there coach there going with Kevin Young”- Bill Simmons right now

 

[Mainstreet]

If we only knew what caused the Suns collapse against the Mavericks in the playoffs.

The Suns did well to win two games against the Nuggets in the playoffs, especially with Paul and Ayton going down.

They didn't even have five solid starters much less a reliable bench.

 

[Finito]

If we only knew what caused the Suns collapse against the Mavericks in the playoffs.

The Suns did well to win two games against the Nuggets in the playoffs, especially with Paul and Ayton going down.

They didn't even have five solid starters much less a reliable bench.

Don’t forget losing 4 in a row to the Bucks

 

[Covert Rain]

We have no idea if he can be effective as a Head Coach so I could see passing on him but I wouldn't be at all concerned that he was "part of the problem".

I see it this way. There is a 50/50 shot he was part of the problem IMO. Someone outside? No chance. It's that simple for me.

 

[Mainstreet]

Don’t forget losing 4 in a row to the Bucks

I think the Bucks were the better team so it's easier to swallow. The referees let Giannis do anything he wanted.

They were so much bigger and all the Suns had was Ayton in the middle.

 

[Finito]

I think the Bucks were the better team so it's easier to swallow. The referees let Giannis do anything he wanted.

They were so much bigger, and all the Suns had was Ayton in the middle.

Giannis wasn’t why they won it was Middleton and Holiday who came alive and we couldn’t stop.

Once they changed in game 3 we made no adjustments at all. Holiday picking up Paul full court was the end of Paul in that series.

I don’t think they were better at all. We had the best record in the NBA

 

[Mainstreet]

Giannis wasn’t why they won it was Middleton and Holiday who came alive and we couldn’t stop.

Once they changed in game 3 we made no adjustments at all. Holiday picking up Paul full court was the end of Paul in that series.

I don’t think they were better at all. We had the best record in the NBA

The Bucks had more size and depth upfront. Their ability to score inside opened up their entire perimeter game.

Obviously, Middleton and Holiday were huge as well.

 

[Covert Rain]

I think the Bucks were the better team so it's easier to swallow. The referees let Giannis do anything he wanted.

They were so much bigger and all the Suns had was Ayton in the middle.

Losing 4 in a row after being 2 wins away from a title is never easy to swallow. Couple that with guys who just didn't show up after the first two games is even worse. Bridges and Booker in Game 3. Bridges, Ayton and Paul in Game 4. The defensive collapse in Game 5. Disappearance of Bridges, Ayton and Booker in Game 6.

It wasn't as simple as the Bucks being better. We had guys doing Houdini throughout that series after the first 2 games that goes way beyond how the Bucks were playing.

 

[Mainstreet]

Losing 4 in a row after being 2 wins away from a title is never easy to swallow. Couple that with guys who just didn't show up after the first two games is even worse. Bridges and Booker in Game 3. Bridges, Ayton and Paul in Game 4. The defensive collapse in Game 5. Disappearance of Bridges, Ayton and Booker in Game 6.

It wasn't as simple as the Bucks being better. We had guys doing Houdini throughout that series after the first 2 games that goes way beyond how the Bucks were playing.

It's never that simple. The Suns lack of depth in the middle didn't help.