The way Barkley sees it

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I hate it when I agree with Charles Barkley because he can be such an idiot. However I agree with most of what he says in this article. In particular I agree with his views on Larry Bird's comments, comparing Kobe to Jordan, and the young players in the draft.

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04164/330895.stm

Barkley calls 'em like he sees 'em, without a bow to political correctness
Saturday, June 12, 2004

By Phil Axelrod, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Charles Barkley, a man of many words that usually are irreverent but always relevant, offered opinions ranging from the war in Iraq to racism in America to Larry Bird's defense after playing a soggy round of golf yesterday in the Mellon Mario Lemieux Celebrity Invitational at The Club at Nevillewood.

Bird earlier in the week made headlines when he said the NBA needed more white stars and he was "irritated" when a white guy guarded him because it "was a disrespect to my game."

"I have no problem with what he said," Barkley said. "Every time somebody says something about race, it's not bad. The politically correct police are getting way out of hand.

"That's good trash-talking. I started laughing."

Is Bird right that the NBA needs white stars?

"Yes. But they need players who play well, not just white players. The fans are white and the sponsors are white, that's just the truth."

Barkley said he rooted for Calgary's Jarome Iginla, the highest-profile African-American player in the NHL, during the recent Stanley Cup playoffs because "he's black."

"I don't even know the guy, but I wanted to see the black guy do well. It's not like I'm rooting against white guys. People want to see someone who looks like them do well."

Asked if it bothered him to be guarded by a white player when he played, Barkley answered with a smile, "I tossed them all around. Kevin McHale was the best I ever played against. He always guarded me. I think it would have been an insult if they put Bird on me. He was the worst defensive player ever.

"He didn't guard me ... it wouldn't have been in his best interest."


Peter Diana, Post-Gazette
Steelers No 1 draft pick Ben Rothlisberger hits out of the bunker on the 14th hole.
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At a glance

What: Mellon Mario Lemieux Celebrity Invitational

Where: The Club at Nevillewood

When: Today and tomorrow

Times: 8 a.m., gates open and celebrity play begins. 4 p.m., Levitra Celebrity Long Drive Contest, 10th tee.

Tickets: Single-day $10 adult gallery and $5 junior gallery tickets can be purchased at the gate.




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Barkley was just getting warmed up. Here is a sampling of his most outrageous and outspoken thoughts offered in a 45-minute meeting with the media:

On whether NBA players have an obligation to play for the U.S. team in the Olympics: "I played in two Olympics, that's the greatest honor in my life. But, if guys don't want to go, that doesn't mean they're unpatriotic."

On the war in Iraq: "I would not say it's going well. It's unnecessary and uncalled for. It's an unbelievably sad thing, probably the worst thing that has ever happened in my lifetime. I feel bad for all our soldiers. You can't stop terrorism. We'll never be safe again the rest of our lives."

On Detroit's decision not to foul in the final seconds of regulation when Kobe Bryant made a 3-pointer to send the game into overtime and an eventual 99-91 victory for the Los Angeles Lakers: "You've got to foul someone, either Shaq or Kobe. It was bad defense. With 15 seconds or less I'm going to foul. But I don't like to second-guess coaches, that would make me a media guy."

On who is the best player in the NBA: "It's between Shaq, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, then Kobe."

On comparing Kobe to Michael Jordan: "Quit saying Kobe is as good as Jordan. Kobe's a good little player, but he's no Michael Jordan. Kobe is not Michael Jordan. Period."

On drafting players right out of high school: "The NBA draft is designed for bad teams to get immediate help, not a project. It's not fair to the fans. It's not fair to the game. The level of basketball is down because of all the young guys coming into the league."
 

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Didn't Barkley once say something to the effect of, 'as long as Larry Bird is around, I'll only be the second-worst defender in the NBA'?


I agree with most of it, but I disagree about the draft. NFL and baseball teams don't expect immediate help from their drafts, and I don't see why the NBA feels they should be the permanent exception--especially now that they've instituted the rookie salary cap and tied drafted players to their teams for four or five years.

Besides, this entire issue is the NBA's own fault--they've created this system where players are rewarded more for how quickly they made it than for how good they are when they arrive, and now they're surprised that the top players are declaring before they're ready? When young players see how Tim Duncan is screwed over by the max salary year after year, why would they want to go to school further than they need to in order to get drafted in the first round?
 
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Actually the NFL does expect their rookies to make an immediate impact in most cases. In fact many times they expect rookies from several rounds to help their teams out immediately.

I can't wait for an age limit, and I'm sure they are going to get one soon.

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Joe Mama said:
Actually the NFL does expect their rookies to make an immediate impact in most cases. In fact many times they expect rookies from several rounds to help their teams out immediately.

I can't wait for an age limit, and I'm sure they are going to get one soon.

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Sure, NFL teams expect their draft picks to help, in the same way that the Suns expected their own 'project' draft picks to help before this season. Except for RB and maybe LB/DE, though, it's rare to find an NFL rookie that plays significantly better than a journeyman in his first year.

I'm sure an age limit is coming, too, but I think it's stupid and wish it wouldn't happen. I don't see the point in making someone like LeBron wait for two years before he gets into the league, or the benefit from forcing Ndudi Ebi to go to the UA instead of focusing on improving his game in the NBA.
 

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F-Dog said:
Sure, NFL teams expect their draft picks to help, in the same way that the Suns expected their own 'project' draft picks to help before this season. Except for RB and maybe LB/DE, though, it's rare to find an NFL rookie that plays significantly better than a journeyman in his first year.

I'm sure an age limit is coming, too, but I think it's stupid and wish it wouldn't happen. I don't see the point in making someone like LeBron wait for two years before he gets into the league, or the benefit from forcing Ndudi Ebi to go to the UA instead of focusing on improving his game in the NBA.


Even Lebron would have benefited from a couple of years of college. I agree that he was ready to join an NBA team and compete but his team still landed in the lottery. He didn't have nearly as much influence on his team as Duncan did in is first year.

If the NBA had a develpomental league you could compare it to MLB and football teams do expect their draft picks to make an immediate contribution. As a matter of fact they usually expect their high picks to start.

The NFL also has a min. age requirement that was upheld in court.
 

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I believe the NBA expects the drafted players bcuz there are only 12 roster spots. Far lass than any other sport. No minor leagues. With so few spots, you need guys to help right away.
 
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