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Stupid. It is sheer stupidity to ask to get mad at a 2-time MVP for not winning a championship instead of Marion.

so you get mad at people attacking you, but you can attack them and call them stupid? That makes sense.
 

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Stupid. Because when Nash is out of the game Suns blow their leads and never play up to par. Everytime Nash is out, the Suns struggle. This is no mystery. Every Suns fan knows this. Happens every night.

But when you take out Marion, this doesn't happen. Guys like Amare and Diaw take on the load.

Nash is the centerpiece of the team. Not Marion. It is sheer stupidity to ask to get mad at a 2-time MVP for not winning a championship instead of Marion.

And you tell me I'm "clinically insane"? Geez, what kind of comment was that? Asking to boo Nash instead of Marion. Wow. I thought you knew better considering you love charts and stats.

Yet Marion has a much better +/- than Stoudemire AND Diaw put together. I'm sure you'll argue the stats there too.

Another thing. The fact that you say Diaw can take on Marion's load tells me you didn't watch that much or just are bending reality to support your argument. Diaw was definitely not great last year.
 
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if your trying to argue that Marion is more valuable to our team than Stoudemire, than you dont watch basketball... Any NBA GM would much rather have Stat than Trix.
 

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if your trying to argue that Marion is more valuable to our team than Stoudemire, than you dont watch basketball... Any NBA GM would much rather have Stat than Trix.

That wasn't the argument. Please highlight the part where I said that. His +/- IS better than Stoudemire, but STAT is a go to guy offensive on the inside.
 
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Yet Marion has a much better +/- than Stoudemire AND Diaw put together. I'm sure you'll argue the stats there too.

Another thing. The fact that you say Diaw can take on Marion's load tells me you didn't watch that much or just are bending reality to support your argument. Diaw was definitely not great last year.

You still didn't justify that it is okay to get mad at Nash for not getting Suns a title and not Marion.

The whole argument was that Marion should be more to blame for no championship and not Nash. HooverDam claims I should get mad at Nash.

Bottom line: Nash is more important than Marion hence why okay to get angry at Marion and not Nash.
 

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You still didn't justify that it is okay to get mad at Nash for not getting Suns a title and not Marion.

The whole argument was that Marion should be more to blame for no championship and not Nash. HooverDam claims I should get mad at Nash.

Bottom line: Nash is more important than Marion hence why okay to get angry at Marion and not Nash.

Umm...yeah...hmm...was I the guy that said anything about Nash? Cuz I coulda sworn that wasn't me and stuff...

I never brought up Nash, so your message there is to someone else. I was quoting the things you claimed, not whoever you're talking about. You make it seem as if Marion is so easily replaced, while facts don't seem to back your argument. I would also disagree that you could blame Nash, and would not defend his argument either.
 

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Ouchie, the guy starts threads about HIMSELF ad naseum. He's an attention *****, plain and simple. I do agree about the avatar thing though and I never had a problem with his "style" and I thought that the hounding him was ridiculous, but he brings a lot of it on himself. Not sure how you can think otherwise.

I am very disappointed at the ASFN Community for not posting the following picture:
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You all have all dropped the ball.
 

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You still didn't justify that it is okay to get mad at Nash for not getting Suns a title and not Marion.

The whole argument was that Marion should be more to blame for no championship and not Nash. HooverDam claims I should get mad at Nash.

Bottom line: Nash is more important than Marion hence why okay to get angry at Marion and not Nash.

Your "Logic" is nothing short of mystifying. I'm not saying you should boo Nash, Marion, or anyone. I love all the Suns myself, and I think a good majority of them are terrific players, including Marion.

But if Nash is more important to the team winning than Marion, something we'd all agree on, why is it "ok" to get mad at Marion and not at Nash for the Suns not winning the title? Shouldn't we be upset at the person who has the most responsibility?

For instance, if Apple Computer doesn't do well for the next year, no one is going to be saying "fire Jonathan Ive" (their industrial designer), they'll call for Steve Jobs' head, because he bears the most responsibility.

In what crazy world do people get upset about a goal not being met, and then say "its ok not to blame the most important piece, but lets blame the foot soldiers"...its just more crazy Sunsman44 reasoning.

All that being said, I don't think Nash or Marion deserves to be 'blamed' solely, or really at all for the Suns failing to win a title. They've had some horribly unlucky breaks and have a great shot this year.
 

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You all have all dropped the ball.

I posted this one
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a while ago and cheesebeef ripped into me for making an issue where there wasnt one or something. Now it become an overwhelming problem with this board.

Who makes threads about themself and talks in the 3rd person? Honestly!
 

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Your "Logic" is nothing short of mystifying. I'm not saying you should boo Nash, Marion, or anyone. I love all the Suns myself, and I think a good majority of them are terrific players, including Marion.

But if Nash is more important to the team winning than Marion, something we'd all agree on, why is it "ok" to get mad at Marion and not at Nash for the Suns not winning the title? Shouldn't we be upset at the person who has the most responsibility?

For instance, if Apple Computer doesn't do well for the next year, no one is going to be saying "fire Jonathan Ive" (their industrial designer), they'll call for Steve Jobs' head, because he bears the most responsibility.

In what crazy world do people get upset about a goal not being met, and then say "its ok not to blame the most important piece, but lets blame the foot soldiers"...its just more crazy Sunsman44 reasoning.

All that being said, I don't think Nash or Marion deserves to be 'blamed' solely, or really at all for the Suns failing to win a title. They've had some horribly unlucky breaks and have a great shot this year.

omgsupportthetroops!
 

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Stop talking about yourself in the third person....buddah on a pogo stick but is that so damn annoying.
 

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Man, you suns fans are lucky. You only have to deal with one or two of these type of posters. Visit Lakersground and see this guy's extended family on display 24/7.
 

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Although this thread was clearly started by Sunsman44 and u clearly don't want anything to do with Sunsman 44 and have Sunsman44 on ignore - u just couldn't resist opening it huh?

I don't blame u. Curiosity is a powerful thing, trooper.

did you just refer to yourself in 3rd person 3 times in one post?


that IS amazing.
 

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This is the most entertaining thread on the board.




Is there any wonder why they call it T R O L L I N G ?

Ol'44 can reel them in.

Keep fishin buddy. Not your fault some don't know the difference between live bait and chum.

And Donald is right....Sunsman is a peewee compared to other 'anglers' . Be thankful the greatest spammer of all time has retired. (hmmm, he was a fLaker fan as well)
 

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not really, i just thought i'd add some pics to the thread.

but this attention ******* is pathetic
 

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nashman thinks its funny that Sunsman44 is even still here. nashman thinks Sunsman44 referring to himself as Sunsman44 and spewing out complete crap most of the time is what got Sunsman44 banned. nashman is curious though if Susman44 is banned how does Sunsman44 continue to post his ridiculous posts to stir up the collective board community. Oh well maybe someday he will get the perma ban and we can be rid of the Sunsman44, nashman feels this would be a better place without such a waste of space!
 

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Stop talking about yourself in the third person....buddah on a pogo stick but is that so damn annoying.

It used to be cool. I don't know what happened to it.

I agree that you guys give Sunsman the shaft most of the time. I also agree that people get treated differently on this board. If you guys wouldn't give Sunsman so much crap, you wouldn't get threads like this.

That being said. You can get banned for talking in the 3rd person too much.
 

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Sunsman44 gets alot of crap because he spews garbage out constantly so people respond in kind!

Some of the things that he says I don't agree with.

You attack the post, not the poster. How freaking hard is that? Seriously.
 
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